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quail Seminar #1158908 01/08/10 09:34 PM
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January 8, 2010
Third Annual Distinguished Quail Lectureship Fast Approaches!

ROBY - Seats for the third annual Distinguished Lectureship in Quail Management are filling fast, according to organizers.

The event set for 8:30 a.m. until 2:30 p.m. Jan. 29 in Roby should be of interest to all students of quail, whether they are landowners, hunters or biologists, said Dr. Dale Rollins, director of the Rolling Plains Quail Research Ranch located just west of the meeting site. The theme for the conference is The Science of Quail Management.

This years featured speaker is Dr. Fred S. Guthery, a research scientist withguthery2.jpg Oklahoma State University in Stillwater, Okla. Guthery will present two lectures. The morning session will feature A Rockin Retrospective on Quail Science and Management, while the afternoon session features Quail, Weather, and Time.

Dr. Gutherys experiences stem from Texas Tech University to the Caesar Kleberg Wildlife Research Institute in south Texas, and more recently to Oklahoma, Rollins said.

Guthery is the quintessential quail scientist. His quail legacy in the scientific literature is without rival, Rollins said. His comments may step on some toes-at the very least he will make you re-think what you thought you knew about quail management.

Guthery has authored several books, including Beef, Brush, and Bobwhites, On Bobwhites," The Technology of Bobwhite Management, and his most recent A Primer on Natural Resource Science. He has authored more than seventy journal publications and numerous popular articles on bobwhites, according to Rollins.

Participants are encouraged to bring along their copies of Gutherys books for a book-signing session.

When the Rolling Plains Quail Research Ranch was created in 2007, I wanted to host an annual meeting to showcase leaders in quail management from across the U.S., Rollins said. The past two years meetings have drawn standing-room-only crowds. I expect this years meeting to be equally as exciting.

The event will include updates on various research and educational efforts conducted at the Rolling Plains Quail Research Ranch.

Dr. Dean Ransom, Agrilife Research scientist in San Angelo, will summarize his extensive research on roadrunners, which Rollins noted are often viewed as a pariah by quail hunters.

Rollins will discuss current research examining the role of avian influenza and parasitic eyeworms in the region-wide decline of quail.

The new research ranch, a 4,700-acre property located in western Fisher County, serves as a laboratory and classroom for those interested in sustaining quail populations in west Texas. A tour of the ranch will be conducted after the lectureship, from 3-5 p.m.

The program is sponsored by the Rolling Plains Quail Research Ranch, Texas Agrilife Research, Texas Agrilife Extension Services Quail Decline Initiative, and Park Cities Quail.

Two Texas Department of Agriculture continuing education units are available for those holding a private applicators license.

A $15 registration fee is due by Jan. 15 or $25 thereafter. Seating is limited to 100 people, and registration includes lunch and refreshments. Registration information and additional details can be found by calling 325-653-4576 or go to www.quailresearch.org.

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Are you going? May we borrow your notes?



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I am going to be in Virginia eating oysters, shrimp, and drinking a little Crown, or Knob Creek, and maybe shooting a Duck. My Virginia quail hunters have asked me up since we do not have quail this year.



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I think all these "experts" are shooting blanks. Been listining to their expert opinions for forty years while the population has gone to hell in a handbasket. Probably spend my gas and lease money on some pen raised birds. At least my dogs will know what a quail smells like and know what to point.



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Guys, many more of these management siminars is going to cause me to sell my gun and dogs. Been the same ole gab for 20 years and these yo-yos can't raise Quail on their own ranch @ Roby which is supposed to be the "Quail capital of Texas".
Seems to me the rich get richer.


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Originally Posted By: scattergun
I think all these "experts" are shooting blanks. Been listining to their expert opinions for forty years while the population has gone to hell in a handbasket. Probably spend my gas and lease money on some pen raised birds. At least my dogs will know what a quail smells like and know what to point.


You took the words right out of my mouth! Millions of dollars spent on "research" and they still cant tell us what is going on.



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Maybe the solution is to do away with the screwworm eradication program. It will only take about 20 years to reduce the deer numbers to where they were in the 50's and make that land available for quail hunting again.



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Interesting you say that b/c in the places that used to be covered in quail and no deer are now covered in tons of deer and a few quail.


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Really? Have you been to the ranch? Have you informed yourself of what they are doing there? Have you talked to landowners that have been thru the Quail Masters program Dale puts on?

Based on your comments, I suspect the answer would be NO to all of the above. And then you come on here and complain about the rich getting richer. Now thats rich!

I lease land like most. I hate the quail situation. The fact of the matter is that Dale and his group out at the RPQRR are trying their hardest to do something that no other organization or study has even come close to doing, which is scientifically studying quail 24/7/365, and they do all this on donations.

So donate http://www.quailresearch.org/


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Originally Posted By: bird hunter
Really? Have you been to the ranch? Have you informed yourself of what they are doing there? Have you talked to landowners that have been thru the Quail Masters program Dale puts on?

Based on your comments, I suspect the answer would be NO to all of the above. And then you come on here and complain about the rich getting richer. Now thats rich!

I lease land like most. I hate the quail situation. The fact of the matter is that Dale and his group out at the RPQRR are trying their hardest to do something that no other organization or study has even come close to doing, which is scientifically studying quail 24/7/365, and they do all this on donations.

So donate http://www.quailresearch.org/


Nope, I have never been invited to "The Ranch". Most of the guys I know who have bird dogs are not wealthy enough to have a "Ranch". Like I said, I'll just buy pen raised birds and give my dogs some work and myself a little enjoyment and satisfaction of seeing them work. If the so called "quail experts" want someone to donate or spend money to go to a big shindig I would suggest they repopulate the birds based on their same old crap everyone has heard 50 times. That might get someones attention.


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I sure hope they prove to us that just one program they come up with can help these Quail birds.
Its not working and its a money cave. Those guys are trying and I know that but one year its a drougth, limited rain fall,to much rain at the wrong time, hail wiped they out Avain this year and on and on. When 85% die off from some cause from one season till the next and a life of one is 10-11 months. Man do the math. Just hope to me is all we have left.


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You are right about the "hope".

I'm thinking about a seminar myself. I'm not a Dr. but I am 56 years old and got my first pointer when I was 14. If I could get enough folks wanting to know what everyone already knows about quail to ante up a few bucks I might make enough to buy a few sacks of dogfood.


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Scattergun, Let me be the first to sign up for your siminar and I would like for you to invite the TP&WLD yo-yos that set the 4 months quail season and the liberal 15 bird limit per day to explain their reason for doing this.
I wander if money had any thought in doing this. I am old enough to remember when season was Dec. 1 thru Jan. 16th. 12 birds per day and some counties were closed on Sundays and others counties one could hunt only on Mon,Wed and Fridays. Those were the good old days and quail were all over ET at that time.


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Tom I would be all for shortning the season if for no other reason than it is just to hot and green late oct. and most of nov. As for the experts, I've never been to the "ranch" myself. I do like the fact they're some people working on our behave. Seems like everything else is working against us. Read a good article in Texas Sporting Journal called "covey rising" in the jan/feb issue. It's about a man in aspermont who has had some sucess with range enhancement tecniques. If you have access to it check it out.


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Originally Posted By: scattergun

Nope, I have never been invited to "The Ranch". Most of the guys I know who have bird dogs are not wealthy enough to have a "Ranch". Like I said, I'll just buy pen raised birds and give my dogs some work and myself a little enjoyment and satisfaction of seeing them work. If the so called "quail experts" want someone to donate or spend money to go to a big shindig I would suggest they repopulate the birds based on their same old crap everyone has heard 50 times. That might get someones attention.


Why are you playing the broke dick card? The RPQRR is not designed to be a club for wealthy folk. It is a research ranch. It operates on donations. If you want to visit and understand what they do, call them up and see what can be coordinated. The people are dedicated to the quail cause and willing to share information.


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Originally Posted By: Tom Azbell
I sure hope they prove to us that just one program they come up with can help these Quail birds.
Its not working and its a money cave. Those guys are trying and I know that but one year its a drougth, limited rain fall,to much rain at the wrong time, hail wiped they out Avain this year and on and on. When 85% die off from some cause from one season till the next and a life of one is 10-11 months. Man do the math. Just hope to me is all we have left.


What do they have to prove to you Tom? Why do you care if it is a a money cave? The research ranch operates on donations. It is not a publicly funded operation. It is a privately funded operation.

85% die off in one season. Well Goober, I'll be..........

FYI, that is about the correct mortality rate for a quail population. But you probably already knew that seeing how you know all there is to know about quail. But if you dont believe me, contact http://www.quailresearch.org/ them and ask them. The folks there will be more than happy to discuss mortality in general and what the results of the study this year.


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