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5.56 and hogs

Posted By: cyberpyrot

5.56 and hogs - 12/20/14 06:01 PM

I have a hunt coming up. I have the 6.8 but I hate it the ammo is so expensive and the gun has a 20" barrel and is so heavy. I want to switch back to the 5.56 but I'm worried it won't penatrate the skull. Any advice?

The 6.8 only likes the $30 ammo the 5.56 will eat anything.
Posted By: 1860.colt

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/20/14 06:12 PM

scratch not good with all the fancy words. 6.8 has more metric energy than the .223. yet .223 tis bigger than .22 short scratch would go with FMJ rather than the ones with Holes in the Points for better penitration. translated will be with ya shortly. best wishes i got cheap posts flag
Posted By: bigjoe8565

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 12:05 AM

5.56 ammo will penetrate a hog's skull, but you should shoot the 6.8. It's not like you'll go through 4-5 boxes of ammo and spend hundreds if dollars. Ammo will be the cheapest part of the trip.
Posted By: cyberpyrot

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 12:56 AM

I went through 3 boxes getting it sighted in. 3 different brands
Posted By: 1860.colt

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 01:24 AM

rofl i use the .223 on public hunts, do a lot of walking, as u stated it a lot lighter & cheaper ta shoot. keep my shots short distance, usualy take heart lung shot. been luck, very little blood trail, it fills in body cavity cause of small puncher. most that use the .223-5.56 take head shots. best wishes flag
Posted By: BunnyBlaster

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 04:09 AM

5.56 is fine provided you can shoot well. Otherwise take the 6.8
Posted By: Jhop

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 05:08 AM

Just take the 6.8, most likely you'll shoot less than 20 rounds. I hunt pigs 2-3 times a month with a guy that uses a 6.8. You know, we find find more pigs that he's shot with his 6.8 than I do with my 5.56/223. Now turn that around when I'm using my .243 bolt gun. Yea the .223/5.56 will kill them but they may make into the brush before they succumb to their wounds.
Posted By: Mickey Moose

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 06:54 AM

Originally Posted By: cyberpyrot
...6.8 but I hate it the ammo is so expensive...

If the price difference between a box of 223 and a box of 6.8 is a concern and could make or break a hunt then you should strongly consider opting for another sport.


Originally Posted By: cyberpyrot
...and is so heavy.

Being sensitive to you, who I do not know, I have to ask if you are you a child or disabled in some way? Regardless, get a sling.


There's more to a hog than the skull. Either will do the job... everybody together now, if you do yours.
Posted By: Theblakester

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 08:18 AM

Which ammos did u try for the 6.8? Federal Fusions are usually accurate from the 6.8 at under $20/box. Hornady SSTs aren't as accurate for me but they put hogs down well.
Posted By: Cast

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 10:46 AM

The answer here is hand loading your 223. A highly supersonic 60gr partition is not hog friendly.
Posted By: one73maro

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 04:27 PM

Cast that's the ticket! Love me some 60gr Partitions. up
Posted By: Double Naught Spy

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 05:50 PM

Quote:
I have a hunt coming up. I have the 6.8 but I hate it the ammo is so expensive and the gun has a 20" barrel and is so heavy. I want to switch back to the 5.56 but I'm worried it won't penatrate the skull. Any advice?

The 6.8 only likes the $30 ammo the 5.56 will eat anything.


First, the ammo cost of hunting is likely a negligible amount of your hunt. So whether you pay 30 cents a round or $3 a round, you aren't apt to shoot so many hogs that it will be a financial impact on your budget. If you are shooting that many, then you have a LOT of additional expenses making that happen (if you are like most of use who don't just shoot off the back porch).

I have done well with Barnes TTSX bullets loaded by Silver State Armory. They were still pretty pricey, but performed well.
Posted By: dfwroadkill

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 06:26 PM

Easy answer here... Sell the 5.56 and use the money to buy ammo for you 6.8. Should hold you over for a while... grin
Posted By: 1860.colt

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 08:05 PM

cheers lots of great tips in this thread. up can under stand what OPster is saying. got plenty of .223 ammo before the supply & demand for it went up. old age kicking in eyes not what used ta be, offtopic worken in iron foundry, back most my shots with the .223 are close range, down in hollows, & thick areas action can be fast. great recovery success with the cheap fmj, haven't had chance ta try the HP's, heart lung gives more room for error. get out & get familour with wich ever ya choose. & learn ones limitations. best wishes on up coming hunt flag
Posted By: Double Naught Spy

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/21/14 11:14 PM

dfwroadkill, you are a freaking genius!
Posted By: dogcatcher

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/22/14 03:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Mickey Moose
Originally Posted By: cyberpyrot
...6.8 but I hate it the ammo is so expensive...

If the price difference between a box of 223 and a box of 6.8 is a concern and could make or break a hunt then you should strongly consider opting for another sport.


Originally Posted By: cyberpyrot
...and is so heavy.

Being sensitive to you, who I do not know, I have to ask if you are you a child or disabled in some way? Regardless, get a sling.


There's more to a hog than the skull. Either will do the job... everybody together now, if you do yours.


up
Posted By: shea.mcphail

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/22/14 05:11 AM

I use my m&p 15 on hog hunts with .223. Works well for me.
Posted By: angler management

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/22/14 05:22 AM

I'm new to the hog hunting/trapping game, but all I've used so far is 69gr HP's out of a AR I built for varmint hunting. 1/8 twist 20" bbl and I have no complaints so far. Granted, all 3 pigs I've killed with this rifle have been 150 yards or less and I was able to hit all 3 just below the ear. After reading this whole post I will be checking out the partitions for sure, but so far I'm happy with the performance of a .223 69gr.
Posted By: aggiehunter03

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/22/14 02:10 PM

I haven't lost a pig yet with my AR and all I've shot is 55 grain Sierra Gamekings out of it. Killed a lot with 52 grain Bergers and 50 grain Vmax out of a 22-250 too. People worry too much about what to shoot hogs with. They're vermin shoot them with whatever you have.
Posted By: Ranch Dawg

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/23/14 02:13 AM

556 will work good, 6.8 will work gooder ! Spend the 30 bucks a box !
Posted By: cyberpyrot

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/23/14 03:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Ranch Dawg
556 will work good, 6.8 will work gooder ! Spend the 30 bucks a box !


Thanks that's all I was asking. I'm not a weakling I walked for 12 hours with the 6.8 10lbs 21 inch barrel it's the fulcrom point that kills you.
Posted By: Big Daddy K

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/23/14 03:32 PM

Penetrate skull? Yep no problem.
Killed one in October with a 22lr. Head shot at about 30.
Saw Kieth Warren kill 3 on tv with a pellet gun lol.
Posted By: Double Naught Spy

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/23/14 04:32 PM

Yeah, there are several pellet gun kills on Youtube, but what you don't see is the number of times they didn't get things right, LOL.

Just something to keep in mind is just because something can be done, doesn't mean it is a good way to do it.

The opposite is also true. I saw a guy fail repeatedly with a .44 mag, but that doesn't mean the .44 mag is a bad round for hogs.
Posted By: 1860.colt

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/23/14 05:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Big Daddy K
Penetrate skull? Yep no problem.
Killed one in October with a 22lr. Head shot at about 30.
Saw Kieth Warren kill 3 on tv with a pellet gun lol.

they had a rerun of that eppisode. hogs & pigions tis what they were hunten. Hhe has very educational show up hogs, pigion both good eaton flag
Posted By: 1860.colt

Re: 5.56 and hogs - 12/23/14 06:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Double Naught Spy
Yeah, there are several pellet gun kills on Youtube, but what you don't see is the number of times they didn't get things right, LOL.

Just something to keep in mind is just because something can be done, doesn't mean it is a good way to do it.

The opposite is also true. I saw a guy fail repeatedly with a .44 mag, but that doesn't mean the .44 mag is a bad round for hogs.

cheers hog hunten at night with slinger with flash light off, wondering about the woods. ya gotta be muyloco tis not the safest flag
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