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3.5" vs 3"

Posted By: rickym

3.5" vs 3" - 12/27/17 11:16 PM

Whats the advantage other than if your skyblasting or its a dedicated goose gun? I know the 3.5" shells are significantly more expensive in most cases.
Posted By: BDB

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/27/17 11:35 PM

"Whats the advantage"

Your shoulder gets a good workout. Lord know most of us needs the exercise and workouts.
Posted By: TTUGrad08

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 12:31 AM

Never found the advantage of using 3.5’s, though my guns are chambered for them.

Nice to know that I can shoot them if that’s all I can find on the shelf at Walmart or Academy.
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 01:30 AM

I use 2 3/4 all day
Shoot em in the head
Posted By: bentman

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 01:43 AM

No advantage
Posted By: justinxxxz

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 02:38 AM

You get more pellets towards your target but on the downside more more recoil with 3.5. The added recoil can also prevent some people from making a good follow up shot.

I use 3.5 BB for cranes(they can take a beating)and my shoulder never hurts but my 68 year old dads does.

Shoot 3 rounds off of each at a couple group of birds. If there is a difference in your follow up then the 3" would be the way to go as you would probably not be making the best use out of those more expensive two 3.5 shells.

- He-Man



Posted By: gusick

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 02:58 AM

Larger pellets means you can't fit as many in the shell. Going to a longer shell gets some of that capacity back.

I only use them on turkeys and cranes. I don't think I need them with smaller shot sizes.
Posted By: bentman

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 03:01 AM

No advantage learn to shoot better quite spending money on expensive shells
Posted By: Simple Searcher

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 03:04 AM

Originally Posted By: BDB
"Whats the advantage"

Your shoulder gets a good workout. Lord know most of us needs the exercise and workouts.


We downed just over 200 snow geese on a conservation hunt, we had extensions longer than our barrels and we were shooting 6-8 3 1/2" shells at every volley, man that was nuts. At the end of the day we would have a small group of geese come through and not one hunter would shoot, hoping the other guys would. We were some hurting hunters. Man I couldn't bare the thought of pulling the trigger again, I just laid there and watched.
Posted By: justinxxxz

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 03:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Simple Searcher
Originally Posted By: BDB
"Whats the advantage"

Your shoulder gets a good workout. Lord know most of us needs the exercise and workouts.


We downed just over 200 snow geese on conservation hunt, we had extensions longer than our barrels and we were shooting 8-10 3 1/2" shells at every volley, man that was nuts. At the end of the day we would have a small group of geese come through and not one hunter would shoot, hoping the other guys would. We were some hurting hunters. Man I couldn't bare the thought of pulling the trigger again, I just laid there and watched.


Sounds like you need some padding...

Posted By: TOMCAT21

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 05:03 AM

Unless you are shooting Snows at extreme ranges there is no need to shoot 3 1/2" shells.
Posted By: 68A

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 12:16 PM

Originally Posted By: bentman
No advantage


I agree with this, unless you’re primary use is skyblasting cranes and geese.
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 12:49 PM

Shooting kent 3 inch tungsten matrix nr 5 this morning.
Best load ever
Posted By: 8pointdrop

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 01:26 PM

I shoot high flying crane with 3" 4 shot and a modified choke, while my buddy misses crane with 3 1/2 bb loads and a kicks high flyer choke. He kills his shoulder and I kill crane, can't see a reason to go bigger even if I went goose hunting.
Posted By: Adchunts

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 02:23 PM

Been hunting waterfowl for a lot of years and have only shot a handful of 3.5" shells, usually when I grabbed them out of my buddy's bag. Several of my blind mates have run the gamut of ammo over the last 25 years, including 12 gauge 3.5", 10 gauge 3.5", Hevi-Shot, and several others I don't remember. All eventually came back to 12 gauge 3" rounds. Never saw an increase in kills with any of the bigger shells, and often a decrease (that 10 gauge recoil was BRUTAL).
Posted By: nacgoat08

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 02:27 PM

Originally Posted By: beaversnipe
Shooting kent 3 inch tungsten matrix nr 5 this morning.
Best load ever


I thought you use 2 3/4 all day?
Posted By: Greekangler

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 07:17 PM

Nothing is better than heavy shot. You can shoot 6’s at Ducks- stone them dead at 60+ yards
Posted By: Greekangler

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/28/17 07:18 PM

Originally Posted By: 68A
Originally Posted By: bentman
No advantage


I agree with this, unless you’re primary use is skyblasting cranes and geese.


Study after study shows they do pattern worse than 3 inch
Posted By: Guy

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/29/17 03:47 AM

I used to shoot 3.5 inch #4, back when I did not have confidence in my shooting. Another disadvantage is the extra weight, not worth it.
Posted By: Matagorda Mud Pig

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/29/17 04:43 PM

I freaking love 3.5 inches. I kill birds I'd never kill with 3 inch or 2.75. I switch after teal season and won't look back. Your experiences may vary.
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/29/17 06:56 PM

Originally Posted By: nacgoat08
Originally Posted By: beaversnipe
Shooting kent 3 inch tungsten matrix nr 5 this morning.
Best load ever


I thought you use 2 3/4 all day?


Me too
Posted By: Bluesea112

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/31/17 12:07 AM

I like 3.5" shells for the extra speed I can get out of them. Shooting 1 1/4 ounce of shot in a 3" shell gives you a speed of around 1400 fps. When you shoot a 1 1/4 ounce load in a 3.5" shell you get a speed of 1650 fps. If the shot loads are identical in both 3" and 3.5" shells, the 3.5" shell can hold more powder. When shooting steel shot speed can make the difference between killing a duck and wounding it. 250 fps is significant in steel shot ballistics, so there is a big advantage of shooting 3.5" shells over 3" shells. The advantage is proven through ballistic science, and not just my opinion.
Posted By: Charlie817

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 12/31/17 03:30 AM

I use the 3.5 to break in the gun as manufacturer recommends to enable cycling of low brass dove loads. Manufacturer recommends 200 rounds. Don't use 3.5 for hunting.
Posted By: Whitecrow

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 01/03/18 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Greekangler
Originally Posted By: bentman
No advantage




Study after study shows they do pattern worse than 3 inch


This^^. The bore x length results in an elongated shot string that doesn't perform well on flying birds. On turkeys they probably work ok. Pretty similar to the .410 shotgun. Stick with 3", or if you want the extra capacity, shoot a 10 ga. I have an SP-10 that weighs ~11lbs and is not bad to shoot all day. I've run multiple boxes through it in a day on geese and never had a problem.
Posted By: bentman

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 01/03/18 04:42 PM

Bluesea112...250 ft per sec is no advantage
Posted By: Gacman

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 01/03/18 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Charlie817
I use the 3.5 to break in the gun as manufacturer recommends to enable cycling of low brass dove loads. Manufacturer recommends 200 rounds. Don't use 3.5 for hunting.


Is this legit?

My brand new A5 jammed during dove season with low brass and hass jammed bout 70% of the time when using 3" Kent duck load although I've only been on three hunts so far this year.

I'm so sick of shotguns jamming. I'm so unlucky when it comes to shotguns. Shotguns just hate me. But I'm going to buy some 3.5's and hope blasting a box will help my cycling issues.
Posted By: TXCrossTimbers

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 01/03/18 06:33 PM

I only use 3.5" for geese and cranes. To me it just puts more shot in the head and neck of a larger bird resulting in less cripples. I use 3" for ducks.
Posted By: john paul

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 01/03/18 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By: TXCrossTimbers
I only use 3.5" for geese and cranes. To me it just puts more shot in the head and neck of a larger bird resulting in less cripples. I use 3" for ducks.


X2
Posted By: Duck_Hunter

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 01/03/18 11:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Gacman
Originally Posted By: Charlie817
I use the 3.5 to break in the gun as manufacturer recommends to enable cycling of low brass dove loads. Manufacturer recommends 200 rounds. Don't use 3.5 for hunting.


Is this legit?

My brand new A5 jammed during dove season with low brass and hass jammed bout 70% of the time when using 3" Kent duck load although I've only been on three hunts so far this year.

I'm so sick of shotguns jamming. I'm so unlucky when it comes to shotguns. Shotguns just hate me. But I'm going to buy some 3.5's and hope blasting a box will help my cycling issues.


What did the owners manual say?
Posted By: Bluesea112

Re: 3.5" vs 3" - 01/05/18 10:42 PM

Bentman, 250 fps can put shot on the body if you tend to shoot tail feathers. Likewise, 250 fps can move body shots to neck and head shots. 250 fps can also be the deciding factor on whether a bone breaks or does not break.

Hey Gacman, my new Browning A5 all of sudden decided it would not eject 3.5" shells. I am stuck shooting 3" now.
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