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Shotgun problem

Posted By: Jacob645

Shotgun problem - 12/26/16 09:20 PM

Kinda scary this morning. Took my first shot of the morning at a wood duck. My gun jammed after the shot and I felt a burning on my wrist. I then realized that my sling stud had popped off the end of my magazine end cap. This is what the shell looked like after I got it out of the chamber.



That bulging really scared me, so I didn't shoot the rest of the morning. Got home and tore the gun down to see what was up. Everything looked pretty normal until I took the bolt apart. This is a gas driven ejection system. This part links the bolt to the slide rails.





I'm guessing that the gas was trapped because of this causing the powder to blow down onto my wrist and dislodged the swivel stud to come dislodged from its circlip.

Powder burn
Posted By: Duck_Hunter

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/26/16 11:23 PM

eek2

Make and model of the gun? How old? Regular maintenance?
Posted By: Jacob645

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/26/16 11:26 PM

TriStar Viper G2. 3 years old. Maybe has 8 boxes of shells through it. Well taken care of.
Posted By: Cole4544

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 12:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Jacob645
TriStar Viper G2


There is your problem.
Posted By: Jacob645

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 12:28 AM

Well, they have a 5 year warranty. I'm about to see how well they stick to it.
Posted By: Duck_Hunter

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Jacob645
Well, they have a 5 year warranty. I'm about to see how well they stick to it.


Hope they do. I'm glad you didn't lose a finger.
Posted By: maximum

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 01:01 AM

you're very lucky.
glad to see you weren't hurt. eek
Posted By: Reloder28

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 01:12 AM

Won't say the shotgun is cheap junk. Those bolt lugs snapped off. Sure don't look good. That shell is quite mangled. Did the barrel bulge?
Posted By: Jacob645

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 01:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Reloder28
Won't say the shotgun is cheap junk. Those bolt lugs snapped off. Sure don't look good. That shell is quite mangled. Did the barrel bulge?


I couldn't see any other damage.
Posted By: Cochise

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 03:33 PM

I have seen several cases of Tristars failing now just this season. First time to see the bolt lugs snapped off like that though.
Posted By: Jacob645

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 07:08 PM

Just got off the phone with the company. They are sending me a shipping label via email. They said they'd fix or replace it. We'll see.
Posted By: Misfire

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 07:16 PM

Are you certain it's a firearm issue?

I shoot that exact same ammo and haven't had any issues but wouldn't rule anything out..


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Posted By: poisonivie

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 09:55 PM

That shell looks like an out of battery detonation.
Posted By: Misfire

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/27/16 10:48 PM

Originally Posted By: poisonivie
That shell looks like an out of battery detonation.


I was thinking the same thing. It could be an out of spec Shell, overcharged load or possibly an obstruction? Either way, i'd hang onto the rest of those shotgun shells until after the issue is resolved.
Posted By: bobcat1

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/28/16 12:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Jacob645
TriStar Viper G2. 3 years old. Maybe has 8 boxes of shells through it. Well taken care of.
I've got one of these about 3 years old also. Never had a problem at all with it. Tristar was good as gold on a 20 gauge I called in on when it was new. They worked with me to get the issue resolved. Turned out to be my fault on initial assembly. I left out that brass cylinder that makes it eject shells. hammer
Posted By: Gamblinman

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/28/16 12:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Jacob645
Just got off the phone with the company. They are sending me a shipping label via email. They said they'd fix or replace it. We'll see.


If they want to replace it...fine. If they want to repair it, I'd tell them to keep it.
Posted By: Arbor Guy

Re: Shotgun problem - 12/29/16 03:27 AM

That'all make you pucker
Posted By: Jacob645

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/06/17 09:49 PM

Well, got my shotgun back from TriStar in the mail today. I had asked them to call me before they sent it back to let me know if it was going to be repaired or replaced. I was never called.

The invoice said: replaced locking block and magazine cap. Test fired OK

I don't know. Maybe I'm over reacting, but it seems like with something like this that could've been bad that the company would be more accommodating to the customer, especially since I sent them 8x10 pictures of the burns on my arm and the shell. If my product caused a small explosion about 3 inches from my customer's face, I'd be doing anything I could to make them happy.
Posted By: Creedmoor

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/06/17 10:28 PM

I'd sell the gun and buy a quality shotgun.

The shell fired out of battery. Period. The gun malfunctioned and it wasn't because the bolt broke. The bolt was damaged when the gun fired.

Pass it along to someone that isn't a friend of yours and get yourself a quality shotgun before your luck runs out.
Posted By: Greekangler

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/06/17 10:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Creedmoor
I'd sell the gun and buy a quality shotgun.

The shell fired out of battery. Period. The gun malfunctioned and it wasn't because the bolt broke. The bolt was damaged when the gun fired.

Pass it along to someone that isn't a friend of yours and get yourself a quality shotgun before your luck runs out.



I would THROW the gun in the bottom of the lake and get another- I couldn't sell a gun that blew up in my hand to another- not Cool
Posted By: bobcat1

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/06/17 10:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Creedmoor
I'd sell the gun and buy a quality shotgun.

The shell fired out of battery. Period. The gun malfunctioned and it wasn't because the bolt broke. The bolt was damaged when the gun fired.

Pass it along to someone that isn't a friend of yours and get yourself a quality shotgun before your luck runs out.

OMG Seriously?
Posted By: Jacob645

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/06/17 10:47 PM

I thought about selling it, but I don't think I could live with myself if something happened. Even though I would of course be upfront about everything with whoever I sold it too. Bad mojo.
Posted By: Creedmoor

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/06/17 10:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Greekangler
Originally Posted By: Creedmoor
I'd sell the gun and buy a quality shotgun.

The shell fired out of battery. Period. The gun malfunctioned and it wasn't because the bolt broke. The bolt was damaged when the gun fired.

Pass it along to someone that isn't a friend of yours and get yourself a quality shotgun before your luck runs out.



I would THROW the gun in the bottom of the lake and get another- I couldn't sell a gun that blew up in my hand to another- not Cool


What's not cool about it? They repaired the gun and test fired it. I'd tell the buyer that the gun was repaired and test fired and be done with it. Let them test fire it if they desire.
Posted By: Jacob645

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/07/17 02:19 AM

Let me ask y'all this, should the hammer strike the firing pin if the bolt is not fully closed? Right now, I can pull the action back, take the gun off safety, pull the trigger and the hammer comes forward and strikes the back side of the bolt with the action open.
Posted By: Carter Tinsley

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/07/17 02:31 AM

The answer is no. Run away from that gun.
Posted By: nocknload

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/07/17 03:41 PM

very interesting and following...
Posted By: Herbie Hancock

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/07/17 04:01 PM

Yeah that gun isn't safe
Posted By: Adchunts

Re: Shotgun problem - 01/08/17 12:34 AM

That shell looks a lot like one I dug out of my old Super X2:






I guess the difference between my story and the OP's is that I spoke with the tech at Browning's service center numerous times before my shotgun was returned. I was satisfied that they went through the entire gun and everything was back to factory specs. I knew exactly what parts were replaced and why. Wound up selling this one to my younger brother when I bought my Benelli.

As an aside, we never figured out why the shell fired out of battery. I do know there has never been another Federal shell through it though...

I am a lefty, so I had powder burns all over the left side of my face (glad I was wearing sunglasses). This incident was the motivating factor in purchasing a left hand gun.
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