275 lbs hog down! Low fenced hunt! ATN X-Sight II 5x20 - 187 yard shot!

Enjoy! I finished this video last night

I didn't see where you measured or better yet weighed him....I have pulled a 300 lb hog and either you are Incredible Hulk (you made it look super easy moving that hog) or that hog is closer to 200 than 300.

Nice hog no doubt, and great video, just doubt the veracity of the 300# claim.

I'm not an expert on estimating weight so I'm not going to try.. Nice hog for sure, congrats..

More like 175.

At 450 - 500 yards the 60gr 223 is traveling ~ 1500 fps with roughly 500 ft/lbs of energy.

Not a good shot

Nice size pig for sure.

I do have one piece of feedback. Try using a mono pod or shootings sticks to stabilize the rear of the rifle and it should improve video quality, as well as stabilize the shot.

I didn't realize how much I moved my own rifle when just resting on the blind window until I did a few videos. Nothing personal, but watching some of the videos posted here and YouTube almost induce a seizure due to the amount of movement.

I agree. Another issue was I had to shoot left handed due to the position of the camera. that is why it took me so long to shoot. I wanted to have a good shot.. And at 180 yards any slight movement is amplified zoomed in.

Thanks for the tip!

It was a 182 yard shot.. not 400-500 yards - And yet your first comments are consistantly negative. So I have come to expect nothing less from you. Thanks for consistantly meeting my expectations.

I agree that 300 is probably an over estimate. But way more than 175. We guessed 300 due to the fact on how hard he was to pull out. I have weight hogs in at 225 and were way easier to drag. We could not lift him onto the Polaris, and he was maxing out the hoist which was rated to 300 lbs.

300 lbs?

At 12 mins into the video you said that you didn't press record on a second large boar that you encountered after downing the first one. You guesstimate "420 yards" and you "took the shot".

That's why I threw out the ballistics info for that range - youre asking that 60gr bullet for too much at that distance - in my opinion you saw the result at 187 yards "that 223 bullet didn't do a thing to him" and yet you try for a longer shot???

As for my comments being negative - it comes with the territory when you post videos , it's nothing personal I've never met you and don't know you so don't recieve them as personal. I inject my opinion on what looks like it works and doesn't - the opinions are free you don't have to read them if you ignore me (a feature on the forum).

Seems like you could've got some action at night at 7 oaks - any reason for not doing a night hunt?

I would have never taken that shot of a game animal at 400-420 yards, and yes I agree 100% a 400 yard shot on a large hog, a .223 is not effective to do the job. But with a hog I do not mind taking the risk to possible get it away from terrorizing the deer.

The only reason we did not stay for a night hunt was that ranch is a 3 hour drive home for me, and my wife worked Sunday so I had the kids. Did not want to be a walking zombie with a 2 year old and a 4 year old. It had already taken us way too long to process that hog out there due to how touch his skin was, was like cutting plywood.

I ranged the blind from were I was standing and it was 221 yards, plus the 182 yrads from the blind to the feeder. That's right at 400 yards, the ballistic calculator did its job though, so that's the good news. It compensated for almost a 30 inch drop at that distance.

Hang in there JT. You haven't been hunting for even 3 years yet and just started hunting at night a little more than 6 months ago. When you are still a novice, all pigs look big. LOL...

Here is one that weighed 252 and was weighed for a contest.

That hog looks big. Good comparison dfw!

That picture was taken looking slightly up at the hog hanging up. All the footage in the video is looking at the hog lying on the ground. Just camera perspective...not saying one is bigger than the other but not a "good comparison" by photo necessarily.

Nice hog, dfw! Indeed, good comparison.

I should have taken a photo hanging up standing right next to it instead of in front of it to get the true effect. Either way he was not less than 250. Like I said I have killed a few 225 lbs hogs (actually weighed), and was able to lift them into the Polaris with help. We could not get this one up. But maybe I have gone weak haha. My guess was based off of that information.

Gnarly looking pig. I'm a firm believer most people over estimate the weight of dead pigs.

Are those Chippewa flip flop? Nice choice in footwear for hog hunting.

Well my misjudging the weight aside. What are the thoughts of the video itself?

Title edited to 275 lbs - the hog is dead and on a diet

Yup. I edited it a while ago. Trying to be accurate, and will admit when I over estimate. A little slow over there.

LOL... No sir, I shot that hog at 3:00 am in the pouring rain. 3 shots in the head and he stopped about 10 yards in front of me. I have his skull on one of my mantels with the 3 holes through it. I got it loaded by myself and back to camp. My boots were caked in mud and felt like they weighed 50 lbs..

I would highly recommend investing in a Primos tripod. It would definitely help you hold the gun steady. Not sure why it was moving so much in the stand anyway. I think most just use the window as a rest. Some sort of muzzle device might help the other shots. It looked like that .223 was giving you all you could handle. I just purchased the Primos Jim Shockey Gen 2 tripod so I can tell you it's a lifesaver when you're walking in fields or just sitting there waiting. If you'll get one of those tape measures that's the soft kind like a tailor uses you can measure the pig and then get an app that will give you a good estimate of what it weighs. It's what we use. It'll help the exaggerations out a lot!

Must be nice to have multiple mantels.

Good hunt!! But 13+ minute video was long for a simple hunt. The music was much louder than everything else I listen to at the same volume. Honestly, I skipped ahead of most everything except the hunt itself.

Also, you showed me why I'm not a fan of using 223 for big pigs. Jump up to the 300 blk out, and you will notice a huge improvement in terminal performance.

About made me sea sick, I don't know how you hit it at all, lol.

Agreed, but its all about when you pull the trigger haha

JT, I think you did a very good job editing. Much better than I can do.

It's the hunting part and the push to sell a product when you don't have the experience that raises eyebrows for me. Please take this in the positive light in which it is meant.

1) The initial shot with the weapon moving all over the place. Jeez! Son, I was getting drunk. Get yourself stable before placing a finger on the trigger. Excuses after
the fact don't cut it.
2) I wish you had left it with the video from the weapon after the initial shot instead of switching to your camera. The pig runs off and the next thing we see is you are
on the ground and he is standing in the road gut shot. No explanation. Either that is the result of your first shot or you had another encounter that isn't shared.
3) Later in the vid you show a head wound that is thought to be the initial shot, and it could be. Your thinking is that the shot is where it should be, but I think it is
back and very well could have slid across behind his head and across his neck, which is why he was able to run like he did. A .223 at almost 200 yards can do the job,
but it is pushing it when you aren't hitting a good CNS area on a solid hog.
4) There are 10 rounds total fired on the video with 4 wounds. If the first shot wasn't the one that resulted in hanging gut, then there is an unaccounted for round, making
at least 11 rounds sent. The last shot is taken with him on the ground on his left side and you see his head flop. That round could not have hit the left side of his
head (snout) because he is laying on that side. So, was the final round the one that hit him behind the ear? It wasn't the rib shot. Just a lot not explained.
5) The shooting when the hog is standing in the road. All but one round from one weapon. The shooting is wild and continues when he has entered the brush. Never fire into
something like that when you can't see your target. Give it up. Tragedies occur.
6) I know you are excited to be an ATN dealer, but a lot of folks (in their opinion) have been burned by them. BTW, all these companies will sign folks on as dealers. It
isn't hard. The X-Sight was only the latest product that has had issues. Their customer service has a less than stellar reputation. Just be careful of too close of an
association with someone or an entity that you may not fully have a grasp of.

I'll leave it at that for now. I have another mantel to go build... LOL...

I will second what dfw hit a little on, the range of your shot is uneccessary, why have your blind so far from the feeder? A .223/5.56 is plenty enough to take a big pig, if shot in the right spot, but a true 275-300 lb hog will require good shot placement in order to make a good clean kill. In my post from last night, I have 4 one shot kills with a 22-250, but I shot these at a range which is much more manageable to ensure a good clean CNS shot on the big ones, and lethal shots on the piglets. With any bullet (just about) shot placement is so important. Even a .308 gut shot will run off if big enough.

Move your blind closer. No reason to be 180 yards to a feeder from a box blind, especially with those senderos. You can be 100 and be just fine with the animals not detecting you at all.

About the video, it was long. Agree with the rest, a quick intro, then get some animal video and then to the hunt. The editing itself was well done, but too much in there. I fast forwarded through most of it the first time and went straight to the shooting. A little before and after is all most people want to see. Posting something like that video on a YouTube channel is fine, but we want the abridged version here on the forum, and you could link to the entire video if people want to watch.

I am impressed with the video out of the x-sight 2.

All good information.

To address a few points.

I did not leave the editing after the first shot because I moved my rifle and you could not see anything, so I cut to the other camera that was rolling so you could see him run off.

We had one more encounter with this guy before you see him on film with a gut shot, I did not know the main camera was not rolling and my scope was already recording, so when I hit the record button it turned off :-( - The gut shot was from our camera man with his 308, he was standing in the road when we came around the corner and thought he was going to charge so he took a quick shot with his 308, which hit the bottom part of his gut.

There was also two other wounds to his back leg that we found as we were cleaning him, both .223 rounds.

Through my scope I could see him right when he entered the brush and that's why i made the last double tap, he was actually at the edge and not all the way in yet. But I see your point here 100%

I am really not a dealer anymore that is why I took it off of my signature. ATN has been too slow to ship the scopes out from us online dealers, so I stick to just the accessories now.

These are the first series of more videos to come and I really do like the feedback, especially constructive.

More good feedback, thank you! having a shorter version is not a bad idea OR a starting point of the kill shot pre loaded for the post here..

this is not my place, and I actually did not know the blind was going to be so far away. It is a friends place he has set up for low fenced deer hunting and was having a hog issue. If I would have known it was that far I would have brought my pop up blind, and my .270 deer rifle. Which is what I will bring next time.

We corned the whole road hoping the hogs would work their way up the road closer, as a .223 is not ideal for almost a 200 yard shot.

I will be back there and will bring my .270 and my pop up blind.

I agree with this comment. I have a kinda short attention span. When I'm telling a story I have to keep reminding myself to keep it short 'cuz other folks aren't always as fascinated with me as I am.


I'm in this group. I enjoy a short intro to set the stage, a couple of stills or a short video section to establish the layout, and then move to the action. The shots of deer and turkey were good, but I wouldn't overdo that. Even though it's somewhat relevant, it's also somewhat extraneous.


Yep, I agree the X-Sight daytime video looks good. Still wanting to see more night hunting stuff from a variety of folks/circumstances.

These are all just my opinions. (Well, okay they're Texas buckeye's opinions with which I happen to agree . . .)

Yup. the second weekend of September I am headed to rock springs for Night Hog hunting and Night Axis hunting. I am hoping to get some killer video there too. When I make the long video, (for YouTube) I will be sure to have a starting point saved when I share it here to get to the action. Or put a time spot for you to skip to.

Thanks again!

I've been saying all these things to you but I must be typing Chinese cause it doesn't come across as constructive???

Oh wait I probably had a lot of negative things to say about the Xsight when you were selling it and so that's why everything I say now is received negatively...

But you don't sell the scopes anymore and removed ATN from your signature line so certainly you're still not taking my comments "feedback" negatively ?!?!?

I dunno I think I'm now confused - I agree with all the other feedback here , you're video broadcasts can be construed by other hunters as how to do it and therefore you should closely watch what you say and do, you've heard from the experienced crowd and I'm not concerned that DFWRoadkill or TXBuckeye are going to start trying your techniques rather it's the inexperienced hunter who may swing for the fences on their first hunt by using ballistic calculations, flying drones, and chasing wounded animals into the brush with cameras.

Notice I said should not must .

when you return to that location with a .270 what ammunition do you plan on using?

There is being constructive, and then being a jack [censored] on every post a person makes. At some point a person starts ignoring the constructive part and only expects the jackass part.

For my .270 I like the Winchester Power point 130 grain - as I can use it for hogs and whitetail. I have dropped several 150 - 200 lbs hogs with it in their tracks with a shoulder shot to the vitals. My average distance is 100 - 125 yards, and I do not have a ton of experience with long range shots, so I think I will stick to that until i gain more experience.

Also I do not just chase wounded animals into the woods. I gave him about 45 mins before we tried to search for him.

Whats wrong with flying drones for scouting? We even used it to look for the hog after the shot to see if we could spot him in any clearings, (which we did not spot him.)

Yup , I checked my keyboard - it's English not Chinese

Must be something wrong on your end

Oh well

Well, we can all agree and disagree...makes the world go around. But I'd bet if we were all out somewhere we'd have a great time. Sure, ol' der Teufel never agrees with me and Ol' Pig_Popper rides JT, Texas buckeye is everyone's friend and DNS is the king of Hog Hill, but that is how it works with friends. Everyone here has a common interest. We don't come back here and jaw with each other cause we hate this place...

Agreed I am sure in person we would crack a beer and have a laugh!

Here is to you Pig Popper! And thank you for looking out and trying to help.

And you...new person. You do realize I'm 7'2", right?

I disagree with that statement!

Oh, wait — I think I actually do agree with you this time.

One of these days I'll get a video recorder and we'll see if I can follow my own advice. Don't hold your breath!

Hehe!! It's all good buddy...

I may be going back to that ranch soon to drop a few more large hogs.. Anyone want to go? I don't have a date yet, but I can take one person.

Too far south for me. Nice of you to throw it out there.

lol! I was thinking the same thing! hah!

R

Hell ya, I'll go with ya. Where is it at...shoot me a pm.....have night vision will travel

I cancelled cable today in anticipation of your future episodes.

How long does a guy have to wait for some bacon to hit the ground...

Dam, you must really enjoy those episodes!!😎😎😎