Posted By: Rob Lay
puzzling scope problem - 05/29/15 03:53 PM
haven't found the problem/solution yet, but thought I would post it here first to see if anyone guesses correctly. I even have Bruce of High Power Optics stumped, I did a crosshair elevation click test this morning and haven't heard back from Bruce on the results.
I bought a Swarovski Z5 3.5-18x44 P Sheep Hunter from Bruce. Click values are 1/4" per 100 yards.
I shoot a 7 mag with Barnes TTSX 150 grain factory ammo. I had a Z3 scope on this rifle before using the exact same ammo. My ballistics were spot on Barnes chart and iSnipe.
Yesterday I sighted in the rifle zeroing at 200 yards. It was shooting very tight groups.
From iSnipe I expected about 8 clicks for 300 yards, turns out it was 17 clicks, still shooting tight groups. 400 yards took 17 clicks and 500 yards another 17-18 clicks. Again, all tight groups once dialed in, but about twice as many clicks as ballistic charts indicated and past experience. We were expecting full range of dial (56 clicks) could get me out to 700 yards, but full range of dial with 200 yard zero was just short of 500 yards.
Range exactly accurate, ammo good and consistent, 80 degrees and 80 humidity yesterday wouldn't cause that big of variance.
Bruce had me do a elevation click test this morning. At 50 yards I got the following results...
I went max low on the turret, I then measured every 20 clicks higher.
1st 20 - 2”
2nd 20 - 2” (4” total)
3rd 20 - 2” (6” total)
4th 20 - 2.5” (8.5” total)
5th 20 - 2.5” (11” total)
6th 20 - 2.5” (13.5” total)
7th 20 - 2.5” (16” total)
8th 20 - 2.5” (18.5” total)
9th 20 - 2.5” (21” total)
10th 20 - 3” (24” total)
11th 20 - 3” (27” total)
12th 20 - 2” (29” total)
13th 20 - 2” (31” total)
14th 4 final clicks
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Total 264 clicks
I'm not looking too much into the elevation variance, was getting pretty good parallax errors as adjusting that out made target too blurry.
I haven't heard back from Bruce, but to me 264 clicks (4.75 full rotations) is way too many for this scope. It is almost like the dial is labeled 1/4" per 100 yards, but behaving more like 1/8" per 100 yards.
We'll see what Bruce says, but any ideas?
I bought a Swarovski Z5 3.5-18x44 P Sheep Hunter from Bruce. Click values are 1/4" per 100 yards.
I shoot a 7 mag with Barnes TTSX 150 grain factory ammo. I had a Z3 scope on this rifle before using the exact same ammo. My ballistics were spot on Barnes chart and iSnipe.
Yesterday I sighted in the rifle zeroing at 200 yards. It was shooting very tight groups.
From iSnipe I expected about 8 clicks for 300 yards, turns out it was 17 clicks, still shooting tight groups. 400 yards took 17 clicks and 500 yards another 17-18 clicks. Again, all tight groups once dialed in, but about twice as many clicks as ballistic charts indicated and past experience. We were expecting full range of dial (56 clicks) could get me out to 700 yards, but full range of dial with 200 yard zero was just short of 500 yards.
Range exactly accurate, ammo good and consistent, 80 degrees and 80 humidity yesterday wouldn't cause that big of variance.
Bruce had me do a elevation click test this morning. At 50 yards I got the following results...
I went max low on the turret, I then measured every 20 clicks higher.
1st 20 - 2”
2nd 20 - 2” (4” total)
3rd 20 - 2” (6” total)
4th 20 - 2.5” (8.5” total)
5th 20 - 2.5” (11” total)
6th 20 - 2.5” (13.5” total)
7th 20 - 2.5” (16” total)
8th 20 - 2.5” (18.5” total)
9th 20 - 2.5” (21” total)
10th 20 - 3” (24” total)
11th 20 - 3” (27” total)
12th 20 - 2” (29” total)
13th 20 - 2” (31” total)
14th 4 final clicks
—
Total 264 clicks
I'm not looking too much into the elevation variance, was getting pretty good parallax errors as adjusting that out made target too blurry.
I haven't heard back from Bruce, but to me 264 clicks (4.75 full rotations) is way too many for this scope. It is almost like the dial is labeled 1/4" per 100 yards, but behaving more like 1/8" per 100 yards.
We'll see what Bruce says, but any ideas?