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first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled

Posted By: Grosvenor

first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/24/15 11:59 PM

I realize there are lots of folks that think it's a great thing, but for many reasons we are less than thrilled about seeing an exotic animal roaming our South Texas ranch. The good news is it's dead. The bad news is, based on what I'm seeing around us, it's probably the first of many. I'm assuming there may be places in Texas where there are similarly minded landowners that have placed a standing kill order on all exotics. That's our plan. It's been awhile since I've looked at the relevant statutes, but I seem to recall that exotics are to be treated like lost livestock and that simply shooting them isn't necessarily the proper protocol. I know we have to have some experts on this subject around here.
Posted By: TFF Caribou

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 12:22 AM

What kind of exotic is it?
Posted By: notamtchance

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 12:24 AM

Exotics are open season. However, if you know where it came from it will go a long way on neighborly relations to give them a call first.
Posted By: MckinneyRifleHunter

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 12:52 AM

Exotics are open season, if you don't like them, kill them. It's your call, IMO, if they can't keep their animals on their ranch it's their bad and it's more meat for you.
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 12:56 AM

What kind of exotics...I'll come help with the eradication.... popcorn
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 01:27 AM

You have cattle on your ranch? They are an exotic also grin
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 01:28 AM

There was a law passed years ago about exotics that have gotten out of a ranch. Seems like there is a time frame for it though. Have to Google it.
Posted By: StretchR

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 02:21 AM

The only thing that I could find is a statement that said to shoot an exotic, you have to have "permission from the owner or the property owner where the animal is located." Sounds like that once something escapes, it then belongs to the property owner. Common sense says if an animal has an ear tag or other marking then it would be polite to try to locate the owner. If there are free-ranging exotics in the area, though, there would be no reason not to take it.

scratch
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 04:42 AM

Well, what in the heck was it? If it's an axis I would be glad to have it since they are great eating. If it's a blackbuck antelope then I'd kill every one you see like you plan to do.
Posted By: Captain Luke

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 11:34 AM

food worthless
Posted By: W44W

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 01:22 PM


Found this on tpwd site


Frequently Asked Questions

Hunting

Are exotic animals that happen to show up on my property fair game?
It depends! If an exotic animal has a visible tag, brand, or other identifying mark, a person should contact the local sheriff's office and report the exotic animal. Texas estray laws apply to marked exotic animals and the local sheriff is responsible for their enforcement. Exotic animals that are not marked and are free ranging that have wandered onto private property may be hunted with a hunting license, provided the owner of the property allows hunting. However, if an exotic animal appears on your property and you know that it is privately owned, then the ethical approach is to contact the owner.
https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/land/habitats/faq/law_enforcement/hunt16.phtml
Posted By: redchevy

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 01:46 PM

Add me to the list that wants to know what it was
Posted By: wtr

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 01:55 PM

confused2
Posted By: CRAnderson52

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 01:57 PM

Suspense...
Posted By: tdecker22

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 02:03 PM

I guess so. Sounds ignorant to me it then again I don't have to worry about them.
Posted By: Eastwood

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 02:12 PM

Warthog?
Posted By: jmh004

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 02:26 PM

https://www.facebook.com/ChaparralWMA

I saw this just now. i guess warthogs are in South Texas. I'd like to know what kind of person thought it would be a good idea to bring warthogs into the state.
Posted By: Erathkid

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 02:33 PM

Someone with visions of grandeur and these in his eyes $$
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 04:31 PM

My guess is the exotic was of the rare and tagged kind. The kind of value. popcorn
Posted By: Navasot

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 04:34 PM

rifle
Posted By: Navasot

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 04:34 PM

what exotic confused2
Posted By: Grosvenor

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 04:53 PM

Originally Posted By: stxranchman
You have cattle on your ranch? They are an exotic also grin


It was, in fact, a cow of sorts. And if it were up to me, the cattle would be dead too.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 05:02 PM

WATUSI
Posted By: Navasot

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 05:03 PM

peep
Posted By: Grosvenor

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: W44W

Found this on tpwd site


Frequently Asked Questions

Hunting

Are exotic animals that happen to show up on my property fair game?
It depends! If an exotic animal has a visible tag, brand, or other identifying mark, a person should contact the local sheriff's office and report the exotic animal. Texas estray laws apply to marked exotic animals and the local sheriff is responsible for their enforcement. Exotic animals that are not marked and are free ranging that have wandered onto private property may be hunted with a hunting license, provided the owner of the property allows hunting. However, if an exotic animal appears on your property and you know that it is privately owned, then the ethical approach is to contact the owner.
https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/land/habitats/faq/law_enforcement/hunt16.phtml


That's consistent with what I remembered reading a few years back. In this case, it was not a tagged or branded animal. It was actually a red stag cow that a guest shot early in the morning thinking he'd shot the biggest mutant whitetail doe of all time. This was unexpected to say the least. I'm not sure what to make of the last sentence from the TPWD webpage. If I encounter an exotic on our property, even if I have a good idea where it came from, I think I would be inclined to kill it. Not so much because I want to shoot someone else's "privately owned" animal, but more because I don't want nonindigenous animals taking up residence, competing with the native game (and effing hogs), and reproducing.
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 05:04 PM

Well you done with public with your announcement on here...soo popcorn
Posted By: Grosvenor

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 05:08 PM

Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Well you done with public with your announcement on here...soo popcorn


shouldn't you be hunting
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Grosvenor
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Well you done with public with your announcement on here...soo popcorn


shouldn't you be hunting

I am looking for an Elk...cow that got away from my neighbor.... rifle
Posted By: ddmm

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 05:50 PM

ok, so was it a cow, as in beef cow or something else??? If it's an exotic, talk to the land owner and if he gives permission fire away!!!!!
South Texas is good cattle country and as long as they are not overgrazing the place, they actually benefit the land for deer, just have to protect your feeders if they like corn-de-la-crème!!!
Posted By: Grosvenor

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: ddmm
ok, so was it a cow, as in beef cow or something else??? If it's an exotic, talk to the land owner and if he gives permission fire away!!!!!
South Texas is good cattle country and as long as they are not overgrazing the place, they actually benefit the land for deer, just have to protect your feeders if they like corn-de-la-crème!!!


cows are the devil.
Posted By: southtexascracker

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/25/15 09:28 PM

So let me get this straight, we are supposed to first inspect the animal for visible markings, then once identified, contact our neighbors, the ones who moved in decades after we had been managing the area for native game and essentially killed the deer movement in several of our pastures by high fencing and creating a zoo, to come romp around our property and corral their purportedly "wild" animal?

Got it.
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 01:04 AM

Originally Posted By: southtexascracker
So let me get this straight, we are supposed to first inspect the animal for visible markings, then once identified, contact our neighbors, the ones who moved in decades after we had been managing the area for native game and essentially killed the deer movement in several of our pastures by high fencing and creating a zoo, to come romp around our property and corral their purportedly "wild" animal?

Got it.

You might want to check the laws on this. Just saying. Posting on a public forum about this "exotic cow" and eminent death would have been the last thing I would have done. Just saying. SSS......
Posted By: txshntr

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 01:41 AM

Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: southtexascracker
So let me get this straight, we are supposed to first inspect the animal for visible markings, then once identified, contact our neighbors, the ones who moved in decades after we had been managing the area for native game and essentially killed the deer movement in several of our pastures by high fencing and creating a zoo, to come romp around our property and corral their purportedly "wild" animal?

Got it.

You might want to check the laws on this. Just saying. Posting on a public forum about this "exotic cow" and eminent death would have been the last thing I would have done. Just saying. SSS......



"Exotic Cow" rofl
Posted By: Western

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 01:46 AM

Originally Posted By: txshntr
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: southtexascracker
So let me get this straight, we are supposed to first inspect the animal for visible markings, then once identified, contact our neighbors, the ones who moved in decades after we had been managing the area for native game and essentially killed the deer movement in several of our pastures by high fencing and creating a zoo, to come romp around our property and corral their purportedly "wild" animal?

Got it.

You might want to check the laws on this. Just saying. Posting on a public forum about this "exotic cow" and eminent death would have been the last thing I would have done. Just saying. SSS......




"Exotic Cow" rofl


Believe it was edited to specify the "cow", red stag cow.
Posted By: southtexascracker

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 03:25 AM

Wasn't me, and I wasn't there so I don't GAF. But give me a break, get your zoo animals off my ranch.
Posted By: southtexascracker

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 03:27 AM

Might want to read back and compare the handles genius.
Posted By: Grosvenor

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 03:43 AM

Well that got ugly.
Posted By: TAT

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 03:58 AM

hammer
Posted By: TexFlip

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 09:40 AM

If you happen to shoot an animal that is protected and the wrong people find out you might regret the SSS approach.
Posted By: don k

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 12:55 PM

Originally Posted By: TexFlip
If you happen to shoot an animal that is protected and the wrong people find out you might regret the SSS approach.
The reason you SSS is so that no one finds out. I have inherited a white Fallow doe in the last couple of weeks. Hopefully one of my hunters that are coming will remove her from my property.
Posted By: Grosvenor

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 01:46 PM

What is SSS?
Posted By: don k

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 02:37 PM


Shoot- Shovel and Shut up.
Posted By: SniperRAB

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 02:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Grosvenor
Well that got ugly.



rofl
Posted By: Simple Searcher

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: W44W

Found this on tpwd site


Frequently Asked Questions

Hunting

Are exotic animals that happen to show up on my property fair game?
It depends! If an exotic animal has a visible tag, brand, or other identifying mark, a person should contact the local sheriff's office and report the exotic animal. Texas estray laws apply to marked exotic animals and the local sheriff is responsible for their enforcement. Exotic animals that are not marked and are free ranging that have wandered onto private property may be hunted with a hunting license, provided the owner of the property allows hunting. However, if an exotic animal appears on your property and you know that it is privately owned, then the ethical approach is to contact the owner.
https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/land/habitats/faq/law_enforcement/hunt16.phtml


It is interesting that TPWD says that you "should" and not that you are required to contact the sheriff.
My daughter worked as a dispatcher for a small town, their sheriff's office would not even go to a call about a loose exotic animal.
Posted By: wtr

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 03:06 PM

Originally Posted By: southtexascracker
So let me get this straight, we are supposed to first inspect the animal for visible markings, then once identified, contact our neighbors, the ones who moved in decades after we had been managing the area for native game and essentially killed the deer movement in several of our pastures by high fencing and creating a zoo, to come romp around our property and corral their purportedly "wild" animal?

Got it.

roflmao Couldnt be more on your side. If one of those zoo animals comes on my place you better believe I'll be rifle
Posted By: 603Country

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 03:27 PM

My eyes aren't what they used to be, so I'd have to shoot it to be able to read the ear tag. That does not apply to cows or donkeys, though there are days when I have to struggle with that.
Posted By: Matpk

Re: first exotic on the ranch, not thrilled - 11/26/15 05:35 PM

food food

popcornNooooo..
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