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Hog Hunting

Posted By: viatordp

Hog Hunting - 11/24/09 10:41 PM

Me and a buddy were talking about going hog hunting but he doesnt have a hunting license and i said he would have to get one. well he called me later that night and said he doesnt think he will since there is no season bag limit restrictions nothing on them. only thing the book says basically is kill the dang things. i told him to get one anyway and he is. but it just got me thinking do you have to have a hunting license to hunt hogs?

Posted By: dk5265

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/24/09 10:58 PM

far as I know you dont need a liscense

Posted By: MELackey

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 12:01 AM

anyone going with me and carrying a gun has to have a license and hunter safety if their age dictates it. May or may not HAVE to have one, but it's too cheap and easy to get one to have to explain to the GW that you aren't hunting deer. One member of having the look of being a scofflow makes for extra scrutiny of everyone else in the party.

Posted By: SMitchell462

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 12:33 AM

Far as I know, regardless of what species, you have to have the license as well as the Hunters Education card.

Posted By: p1wapiti

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 02:35 AM

If you have a gun or weapon of any kind in your hand you need a liscense

Posted By: Grizz

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 02:58 AM

Just going on memory, but I believe you have to have a license unless you're hunting hogs that are causing damage to your property. My guess is some GW's would say any hog on your property is causing damage, while others would not feel that way. Best bet is to buy the license.

Posted By: RMR

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:20 AM

I am not disagreeing but I belive you don't have to have a licence as long as it's not it deer season. But there is no way of telling whether you are really hunting hogs.

Be on the safe side and get one.
Pay for a licence > pay for a fine

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:25 AM

Originally Posted By: p1wapiti
If you have a gun or weapon of any kind in your hand you need a liscense

false

by that reasoning, when someone comes out to my house they would need a hunting license, which is not true

Originally Posted By: Ryan84
I am not disagreeing but I belive you don't have to have a licence as long as it's not it deer season. Because there is no way of telling whether you are really hunting hogs.

Be on the safe side and get one.
Pay for a licence > pay for a fine

false


being that it is deer season has absolutely nothing to do with hog hunting!!!

u dont need a license if u are the land owner or the land owners agent and are taking hogs that are depredating ur land.

i dont know where people get this idea that deer hunting and hog hunting have some mysterious connection....

Posted By: mchgnmike

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:26 AM

Well I think if you are HUNTING hogs you will need a Hunting License. I don't think it matters what is in season or not.

I do know if you go coyote hunting you will need a Hunting License.

So if you hunt anything in Texas a hunting license is required.

Posted By: RMR

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Brandon A

being that it is deer season has absolutely nothing to do with hog hunting!!!

u dont need a license if u are the land owner or the land owners agent and are taking hogs that are depredating ur land.

i dont know where people get this idea that deer hunting and hog hunting have some mysterious connection....

All I was saying was that if the GW comes and you "say" you are hog hunting, then it becomes your word against his judgement. And it is probably a good idea just to get a licence to be on the safe side.

I have never and will never think the two are connected in anyway. I do both so I know there is a difference.

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:34 AM

ya, so if it is not deer season and im out hog hunting, and i SAY im hog hunting how would he know the dif then??? being deer season has absolutely noting to do with it, that and most people hunt hogs at night

Posted By: Arrow_Splitter10

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:36 AM

you have to have a lisence to hunt in the state of texas regardless of the species or game you are hunting. The animals are public hunting its NOT like fishing private ponds vs. public waters. All game animals are public to hunt and you will need a license to legally hunt them.

Posted By: RMR

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:39 AM

I didn't know you could speak for most people but the Warden cant say out of deer season "Oh well i think you could be poaching"...not possible. In deer season it is. A lot of people poach deer at night...its called spotlighting

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:39 AM


Originally Posted By: Arrow_Splitter10
you have to have a lisence to hunt in the state of texas regardless of the species or game you are hunting. The animals are public hunting its NOT like fishing private ponds vs. public waters. All game animals are public to hunt and you will need a license to legally hunt them.



not if u are the land owner or the land owners agent taking hogs that are depredating land/ agriculture.

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:42 AM

here u go


A hunting license is required of any person, regardless of age, who hunts any animal, bird, frog or turtle in this state (except furbearers, if the hunter possesses a trapper's license). No license is required for nuisance fur-bearing animals, depredating hogs or coyotes (see below). Non-residents under 17 years of age may purchase and hunt with the Youth Hunting License (Type 169).

Exceptions: a hunting license is not required to hunt the following:

Coyotes, if the coyotes are attacking, about to attack, or have recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowl.
Depredating feral hogs, if a landowner (resident or non-resident) or landowner's agent or lessee is taking feral hogs causing depredation on the landowner's land.
Fur-bearing animals, if the hunter possesses a trapper's license or if the fur-bearing animals are causing depredation.
Note: All laws and regulations governing hunter education still apply.



http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/general/hunt_licenses/



not sayin he should not get a license, i would reccommend it, but, you do not ALWAYS have to have a license when hunting hogs.

Posted By: RMR

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Ryan84
I am not disagreeing but I belive you don't have to have a licence as long as it's not it deer season. But there is no way of telling whether you are really hunting hogs.

Be on the safe side and get one.
Pay for a licence > pay for a fine


So I was right??

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:47 AM

deer season has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Ryan84
I didn't know you could speak for most people but the Warden cant say out of deer season "Oh well i think you could be poaching"...not possible. In deer season it is. A lot of people poach deer at night...its called spotlighting



just sit back and think about the context ur putting it in. being deer season has nothing to do with how or when u hog hunt. if it was legal to hunt hogs that way before deer season, it is legal to hunt it like that during deer season. No where in the law book does it say "u can do this, except during deer season" thats not how it works


o, and btw most people do hog hunt at night (at least when they are specifically going for hogs)

Posted By: RMR

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:53 AM

Did you see that I CLEARLY SAID I DONT THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE?? GET ONE TO BE SAFE??

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Ryan84
I am not disagreeing but I belive you don't have to have a licence as long as it's not it deer season. But there is no way of telling whether you are really hunting hogs.

Be on the safe side and get one.
Pay for a licence > pay for a fine






there, i fixed the bold for u. now what were u sayin?

Posted By: RMR

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 04:58 AM

I said i belive not know. Never said I knew..just sayin what I thought. Never been a problem cuz I've always had a licence.

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 05:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Ryan84
Never been a problem cuz I've always gad a licence.


me too grin

Posted By: viatordp

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 06:01 PM

he got his license anyway cause i do not have good luck with law enforcement. just thought it was an interesting topic cause when he told me that it definetly made me scratch my head and wonder

Posted By: RICK O'SHAY

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 06:32 PM

YES... the key word is hunt... if you're going to hunt anything in Texas you need a hunting license.

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 06:47 PM

rick, that still is not true.
notice the key word. When i go out to hunt hogs that are tearing up our stuff, i dont need a hunting license, now if i go to a game ranch, and pay to go on an exotic hog hunt, then yes i do. but u can still HUNT them without a license if they meet these criteria!


a hunting license is not required to hunt the following:

Coyotes, if the coyotes are attacking, about to attack, or have recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowl.
Depredating feral hogs, if a landowner (resident or non-resident) or landowner's agent or lessee is taking feral hogs causing depredation on the landowner's land.
Fur-bearing animals, if the hunter possesses a trapper's license or if the fur-bearing animals are causing depredation.
Note: All laws and regulations governing hunter education still apply.

Posted By: passthru

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 06:54 PM

Yeah Brandon, your point is accurate but I would say that during deer season it will be assumed you are hunting deer. The LEO, the judge and most juries would lean that direction. While I don't disagree with your premise I do think that there are too many who would use a "loop hole" like that to do wrong and I think that a LEO should be consistent in the application of enforcement.

Posted By: RICK O'SHAY

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 06:58 PM

You are correct, MOST people don't meet those criteria.
Yes you're fine if it's your land or you work for the land owner ( I don't "think" paying for a spot on a deer lease makes you an agent) ( and I also know that wasn't mentioned). Notice he doesn't say they are going on his land or his boss' land.

Me and a buddy were talking about going hog hunting but he doesnt have a hunting license and i said he would have to get one. well he called me later that night and said he doesnt think he will since there is no season bag limit restrictions nothing on them. only thing the book says basically is kill the dang things. i told him to get one anyway and he is. but it just got me thinking do you have to have a hunting license to hunt hogs?

I guess it would help if we had the definition of "agent and maybe "depredation"


I also know (especially with the night hunting and being deer season) a GW can always issue a ticket and let you and the judge decide if you're guilty on not.

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:02 PM

yess pass thru, but a person is not hunting deer unless he takes or attempts to take a deer.... now how could a game warden infer that when im out at night with 4 other guys blasting away at hogs that im deer hunting?????

Posted By: passthru

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:09 PM

True but that wasn't their situation.

Posted By: Texan Til I Die

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:21 PM

If I'm a landowner without a hunting license and I kill a depredating hog on my property, am I allowed to keep the meat? Likewise, if I shoot a coyote that is harassing my livestock, can I keep the hide?

I seem to vaguely recall something about having to leave these "nuisance" kills where they fall. Might be old info, not sure???

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:22 PM

that i dont know about texan... i know u cant sell the hide without a trappers license or something.

Posted By: RICK O'SHAY

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:22 PM

If a person were to get a citation for hunting w/o a lic , a lawyer or even the time lost from work would be much more than a license would cost to begin with...

JUST BUY A DAMN LICENSE!!!!!

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:24 PM

my grandpa hasnt bought a license in many years, he doesn Hunt at all, but he will damn sure blast a yotee or a hog. he plainly doesnt need one.

Posted By: passthru

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:26 PM

That's right. That's how that warden gets paid.^^^^

Posted By: passthru

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:29 PM

I hunted with an old man in Missouri who killed a deer when he wanted one too. He figured it was his land, his crops they eat then it was just like any steer he was raising too. But if the skunk marshal had showed up and given him a citation he still would have been in the wrong regardless of his reasoning.

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:29 PM

game warden told him he didnt need one as long as he was shooting hogs that were tearin up the place....

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:30 PM

ya but my grandpa doesnt shoot deer, he doesnt shoot anything besides coyotes and hogs..... hell, he wont even shoot a koon lol!

Posted By: passthru

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:31 PM

You are still young. Your understanding should evolve as you grow older and tired of fighting the machine.

Posted By: Grizz

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 07:33 PM

There are many people who are legitimately killing hogs and coyotes to protect their property and/or animals, but there are many more who are just trying to hunt hogs without a license. If a person falls in the first category, I say blast away. If you're in the second, you're just trying to weasel out of buying a license. Just like RICK O'SHAY said, buy the license and be done with it.

Posted By: RMR

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 08:22 PM

Just curious.
Since you don't have to have a hunting licence, do you need to have taken your hunter's education?
I mean you are hunting none the less.

I have both but in some respect it makes sense. But I can also see why you wouldn't.

Posted By: viatordp

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 09:14 PM

i thought you were going straight from class to the woods ryan? and so all yall on here dont think im some kind of outlaw i DID make him buy his license

Posted By: ardodson

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 09:23 PM

The book says that you do not need a license if you are the owner of the land or an agent of the land owner shooting hogs causing depredation, which a lot of you have established, however the book also says that the meat cannot be processed.

Posted By: viatordp

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 09:26 PM

im sorry but if i was to kill a hog due to depredation and didnt have my license for some unknown reason since i have a lifetime super combo i would process the meat and say its the hog payin me back for the damage it has done

Posted By: decook

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 09:32 PM

Yeah, 25 bucks is cheap insurance. Me? I lease - it would be tough to prove a depredation action, and I'd rather just show a game warden my license if they came and asked.

I had thought of this before, so if I were invited to a farm or something where the landowner had a real problem, assuming I had no license, I think I would ask the owner for a letter stating it was for depredation and I had permission to be there.

TPWD says yes to hunter education even for depredation hunts if it is required.
"Note: All laws and regulations governing hunter education still apply."

Posted By: RMR

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/25/09 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: viatordp
i thought you were going straight from class to the woods ryan? and so all yall on here dont think im some kind of outlaw i DID make him buy his license

Lol no not this week. Goin to the A&M t.u. game to watch the Ags put a whoopin on the longhorns!!!
GIG'EM AGS!

Posted By: Red Cloud

Re: Hog Hunting - 11/30/09 06:41 AM

Thanks Brandon. I was wrong. However I will always have a license!

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