Hunting Trip gone bad.

Looks like they are going to have to set up a few Claymores around the camp at night.

this is why we need the wall SOON !

Only a matter of time before the Mexico style kidnappings start occurring here.

That's an act of war. Attacked on our sovereign soil.

Only a matter of time before the Mexico style kidnappings start occurring here.

Has the mainstream media heard about this or are they turning their back to it?

No, it isn't an act of war, LOL. Nobody knows if it was even foreigners and if it was, if it was foreigners representing a governing body. American commit violent crimes in other countries with some regularity, but they aren't acts of war.



This stuff has been going on for 20 years that I can recall and isn't anything particularly new.



Yeah, it made the media. No indication that it was what is being claimed in the blog.

http://www.cbs7.com/content/news/409992435.html
http://www.newswest9.com/story/34208344/...ty-friday-night
http://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/st...night/637371539


A LOT of the information in the BLOG is just supposition. Things are not adding up at this point.

This is the reason folks keep AR-15s with extra 30 rd mags with them.

Really? Exactly what is not adding up? And where are your facts coming from besides the brief short facebook links you posted?

... that there is no evidence to support the allegations of a "cross-border violence".

The family says the men and their wives were grilled about the veracity of their account by Law Enforcement and the assailants got away and likely returned to Mexico.

LOL, no facebook links posted. What doesn't add up is the cops not declaring this attack as an attack. The Sheriff's office specifically stated


which is what is being intimated in the blog. So that doesn't add up right there. Next is the information from the blog. The folks in the blog stated they believe they were going to be killed, but it is interesting to note by the description that the RV was the apparent target of the purported gunmen. The blog states Walker was injured trying to prevent the RV from being stolen. Why attempt to steal the RV and then kill the people when you can kill the people and then steal the RV?

So according to the blog, Walker was injured trying to prevent the RV from being stolen and "the hunter" (Edwin Roberts) was injured trying to drive away the RV during the attack. So who is trying to steal the RV, the purported Mexicans or the Edwin Roberts? Or were the invaders trying to steal the RV, but were driven off by Walker and Michael and then Edwin decided to go for a ride?

The blog goes into say...


So apparently there is doubt in the story from the law enforcement perspective who found no evidence of the attackers being from across the border and The Family backs up this doubt by noting how they were grilled about the veracity of their story.

So no, it doesn't add up as I see it. Maybe it will all wash out, but right now, there are too much lack of congruence.

It makes sense to me that the attackers didn't know anyone was in the RV when they tried to steal it. That is more probable than that they were trying to kidnap the occupants.

Also, the people attacked said they were attacked by "illegals" but how would they really know. That's probably why law enforcement said there's no evidence at this time of "cross border violence".

Also, the people attacked said they were attacked by "illegals" but how would they really know. That's probably why law enforcement said there's no evidence at this time of "cross border violence".

As for why attempt to steal the rv and then kill the people, versus killing the people first and stealing the rv...because cartel folks on US soil typically DO NOT want to be seen and reported. Killing the occupants of the cabin would create and international incident. Stealing their RV undetected would be much more desirable for the bad guys.

Just like the recent murder at Falcon Lake. News and law enforcement reported it as a fisherman murdered after an on-the-water altercation. The guy murdered and the guy in the boat with him were known to law enforcement as local gang members with ties to the Zetas. And they were out in the middle of the lake more than two hours after dark. With two fishing poles but -0- tackle in the boat. Probably delivering cash and picking up weed. Only the guys bringing the weed took the cash and started shooting, then fled back into Mexico by boat. Texas Rangers are involved in the investigation so we may never know the real story.

http://bigbendnow.com/2017/01/sheriff-denies-cross-border-violence-in-candelaria-shooting/

That headline is misleading. Saying that there is no evidence yet that the attackers came from across the border is not the same as "denying" they came from across the border.

No one knows for sure what happened, and the people who do aren’t talking about it.

Five miles north of the Mexican border on a remote West Texas ranch, a New Mexico hunting guide and his client were wounded over the weekend in an alleged gunfight that a family friend described as an attack by “illegal aliens” and an attempted kidnapping.
The Presidio County Sheriff’s Office appeared to question that account in a statement Monday, saying “there is no evidence to support allegations of ‘cross-border violence.'” A Border Patrol spokesman called the alleged incident “highly unusual for our part of the border.”
The following is an account of the events.

Hunting guide Walker Daugherty, 26, of Chloride, N.M. – a ranching community about three hours southwest of Albuquerque near the Gila National Forest – was guiding an exotic big game hunt near Candelaria, Texas, on the border when his party was allegedly attacked by unknown assailants.
Daugherty and his fiancée, another hunting guide and his wife were staying in a lodge at the Circle Dug Ranch. Edwin Roberts, the hunter, and his wife were asleep in a rented RV nearby when gunmen attempted to take the vehicle by force.

Daugherty was shot in the abdomen when he tried to stop the assailants from taking the RV with his clients inside, according to a statement issued by the Gila Livestock Growers Association that described the attack as a kidnapping attempt. Roberts, 59, was shot in the arm.
The RV was “riddled with bullet holes,” the statement said.
Daugherty and Roberts were taken to an El Paso hospital and were in stable condition Monday.

Rancher and Gila Livestock Growers Association President Laura Schneberger issued a news release about the attack, based on the Daugherty family’s account. In addition to their hunting business, Redwing Outfitters, the Daugherty family runs a ranch near the Gila National Forest. The family could not be reached Monday.

“The attack has the family concerned that the attack was not just an attempt to rob the property,” the growers association statement said. “They believe the assailants intended to kill all the party. The attackers were strategically placed around the lodge, and the men were fired upon from different areas.”

Sheriff skeptical
The Presidio County Sheriff’s Office responded to a 911 call around 9:30 p.m. Friday from the Circle Dug Ranch, a two-hour drive from the Presidio County seat, Marfa. Chief Sheriff’s Deputy Joel Nunez responded to the scene.
“We are still investigating details of the shooting,” Sheriff Danny Dominguez said in a statement. “However, there is no evidence to support allegations of ‘cross-border violence’ as released by some media sources.”

The terrain of Presidio County, near Big Bend National Park, is rugged like New Mexico’s Bootheel and notoriously difficult to patrol for both local law enforcement and the U.S. Border Patrol.
The sheriff is tasked with securing more than 3,800 square miles – New Mexico’s Hidalgo County is about 3,400 square miles, by comparison – and the area is a known corridor for drug mules and smugglers leading migrants illegally over the border.
By phone, Dominguez said that despite the illegal traffic through the area, violent incidents like this one haven’t happened.

“This is out of the blue,” he said. “Like they say it happened, something violent like this – no.”
Border Patrol Special Operations Supervisor Rush Carter said agents aided sheriff’s deputies in securing the scene.

“It’s highly unusual for our part of the border,” Carter said. “Any kind of gun violence just doesn’t happen. I wouldn’t say ‘at all,’ but very, very few incidents. If we have gunplay in our area of operation, it’s not folks coming from Mexico doing that.

“We just don’t see it in people who are trying to smuggle aliens or narcotics. If you think about it, when something like that happens, you see the amount of law enforcement presence that comes into an area and the attention it gets, which is bad for them. It will make it that much tougher for them” to make their illegal crossings.

Tourism business
The Big Bend area of West Texas is a magnet for hunters and hikers. Tourism is big business from the hip, artsy town of Marfa into the wild reaches of the Big Bend National Park, which borders Mexico.
Daugherty’s group was hunting aoudad, also known as Barbary sheep, a type of big-horned North African sheep introduced in West Texas. Redwing Outfitters charges $4,900 for a four- to six-day aoudad hunt, according to its website. “In our camps you will find a Christian atmosphere, fun hardworking professional guides and real homecooking,” the website says.

The Circle Dug Ranch, where the party was spending the night, advertises bird-watching, cave exploration and photography workshops and promotes guided hunting packages. An email to the Circle Dug Ranch requesting comment went unanswered Monday.

“It’s a tourist attraction in the Big Bend area, and nobody wants to talk about it, but a lot of ranches have seen a lot of terrible things,” Schneberger said by phone. “This is personal.”
A GoFundMe website account set up to provide financial support to Daugherty had raised more than $18,000 by more than 200 donors in two days. Daugherty is expected to undergo surgery and does not have medical insurance, according to the site.

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PRESIDIO COUNTY, Texas (WEAR) — A Pensacola doctor is recovering after he and another person were attacked while on a hunting trip in Texas.
The incident occurred while Edwin Roberts and several others were at the Circle Dug Ranch, which is 10 miles North West of Candelaria, Texas on Friday around 9:30 p.m.
Chief Deputy Joel Nunez said he responded to a call “of shots fired, multiple shooters and two individuals severely injured”.
Edwin Roberts, a chiropractor in Pensacola, was shot once in the arm, according to his family. Police say Walker Daughtry was shot in the abdomen.
Channel 3 News spoke to Presidio County Sheriff Danny Dominquez. He would not elaborate on how the shooting happened or release any details on the case since it is still under investigation.
In a news release, Sheriff Dominquez did mention the attack was allegedly not linked to “cross border violence”.
Presidio Sheriff’s Department, the Texas Rangers and the Texas Department of Public Safety are investigating. The U.S. Border Patrol also responded to the scene.
Roberts, 54, was rushed to El Paso University Medical Center. He’s has undergone a second surgery.
Walker, 26, was flown via helicopter to El Paso for a gunshot to the abdomen.
According to a Go Fund Me account for Walker Daugherty, it states "they were involved in a shootout with some illegals, when the illegals tried to steal Walker's .. RV with them still inside" Ashely Boggs, Daugherty's girlfriend said.
The Circle Dug Ranch sits on 20,000 acres and is located in a mountainous area in Presidio County, Texas.
Edwin Roberts is a longtime business owner of Pensacola. He owns A Chiropractic Tradition, which is located on Mobile Highway.

Anyone heard anything new on this?

http://www.cbs7.com/content/news/Presidi...-410175185.html

Here ya go!

http://www.cbs7.com/content/news/Presidi...-410175185.html

Here ya go!

Hmmm. DNS may be right.

So, the guide Walker Daugherty thought someone was stealing the RV, went and tried to open it, was shot at from the inside by Roberts, went and got a gun and shot Roberts three times, and then was himself shot by the other guide?

Okay, but that leaves unanswered the question why Daugherty wasn't aware that Roberts and his wife were spending the night in their own RV.

Exclusive: Gunmen targeted family's RV before shootout
by Jasmine Anderson

PRESIDIO COUNTY, Texas (WEAR) — Several men armed with guns tried stealing 59-year-old Edwin Roberts' RV before ambushing the people inside, Roberts' family claims.
The Pensacola chiropractor and his wife were having a relaxing dinner after a day of hunting at the Circle Dug Ranch when they heard a noise a the door.
"My mom’s dog starts barking. There’s someone trying to get into the RV. My dad gets his weapon, identifies he has a weapon and tells whoever it is to leave. They say in English, 'we got weapons and we want your RV'," his son, Edwin Roberts II, said.
Two men with pistols were trying shoot their way inside.
Roberts went for the wheel - he honked the horn and alerted the camp - and got shot in the process. He was able to turn the RV on and drive it towards the camp house.
Two hunting guides heard the commotion and came outside to see what was going on. They ran back inside to grab their shotguns when they saw multiple people attacking the RV.
"Then he came back out, the RV was moving now and he thought they gotten in there and had either took my parents hostage or hurting them, so he tried to shoot the RV tires out with a buck shot which he did to stop the RV," Roberts II explained.
Walker Daugherty, 26, was shot in abdomen.
"All of a sudden, Walker is down. He gets hit from where the RV was. From a different direction, in the stomach, so he’s’ out cold," Roberts II said.
Roberts' wife put a tourniquet on her husband and applied pressure on Daugherty's wound, too. With the suspects gone an immediate call for help was out of the question - they didn't have reception.
"It takes several hours to get out there, and from what I understand, the military sent a helicopter. They life-flighted Mr. walker to El Paso and they took my dad to the city of Presidio and put him on a plane and took him to El Paso," Roberts II said.
Both men had surgery that night. Roberts had been shot three times, had some broken bones and lots of soft tissue damage.
Roberts' family says he has been discharged from the hospital and will fly into Pensacola Tuesday night.

I lmao at the comments about building a wall

There will never be a wall built along the Texas portion of the rio grande

I wonder when and how long it took them to get their story together, First they weren't talking, but now they have a story??? Something still smells about the whole mess.

what makes you think it won't happen?

The border between the U.S. and Mexico is 1,954 miles long. Large chunks of land along that border — especially in Texas — are privately owned. Building the wall would require the federal government to take property from hundreds of American citizens living along the border.

Consider what happened when the U.S. built the existing segments of the national border fence. In 2006, Congress passed the Secure Fence Act. The federal government then built roughly 650 miles of fencing along the Southern border. Roughly 100 miles of this were in Texas, where the government had to take property from more than 400 border residents.

What makes you think it will happen and Mexico will pay for it?








Trump is pretty good at taking small parcels from poor people in NJ but this is a lot of land and he would have to take it from Texans

One big High Fence lease huh

what makes you think it won't happen?

what makes you think it won't happen?

Mexico will never build it and Texas landowners will never allow it

what makes you think it won't happen?

I don't think it will happen eitherBUT Like i said paying for it is easy. the city of Arlington took alot of peoples property for a ballpark,
the Federal government shouldn't have much trouble. Lots of the land in the big bend wouldn't need a wall. lots of folks just think about 2 seconds and say CAN'T

The Wall was just a pipe dream.

Good vote-getter for the sheep? Check.
Something that is ever gonna happen?

Something that Mexico is going to pay for?

So if I voted for Trump that makes me a sheep?

Want to solve the illegal immigration problem? Really? Finally? Once and for all? At no cost?

$1 million fine to businesses for each and every illegal immigrant employed.

Reckon why that hasn't been done?

Not necessarily. But if you voted for him because you believe he was going to solve the illegal immigration problem by building a wall that Mexico was going to pay for it does.

Want to solve the illegal immigration problem? Really? Finally? Once and for all? At no cost?

$1 million fine to businesses for each and every illegal immigrant employed.

Reckon why that hasn't been done?

Yeah, that sounds like a really good idea. Try to solve the illegal immigration problem by fining businesses into extinction. That will help everybody.

I would support that.

On a different subject, who did you vote for?

I already know the answer but why not tell all?

How do I know, because you are a democrat. Not necessarily is a Sh!t answer to my question. This is why many people despise democrats. They think they are smarter than anyone who diagrees with them and refer to them as sheep.

And does nothing about the real problem.

And a wall will?

Here's a thought: it's illegal to hire them. Don't break the law and you won't go extinct.

Here's a thought: it's illegal to hire them. Don't break the law and you won't go extinct.

So we know nothing more about what actually happened?

UPDATE 4

Investigators believe Presidio County ranch shooting was friendly fire, not border violence

A shocking development in a story CBS 7 first broke over the weekend.
Two hunters who were shot in a remote ranch along the Mexican-border in Presidio County claimed illegal immigrants ambushed them Friday night.
But it turns out investigators believe this was just a case of friendly fire among each other.
Presidio County Sheriff Danny Dominguez has been saying all along that there was no indication of cross border violence here.
He tells us the investigation shows that Walker Daughetry shot Edwin Roberts and another hunting guide in their group, Michael Bryant, shot Walker.
...Here’s how investigators believe the shooting happened: Walker thought illegals were inside the RV that Edwin and his wife were in, in an attempt to kidnap them.
Instead of announcing himself, Walker allegedly tried opening the RV.
That’s when Edwin fired off a round from inside the RV missing Walker.
Walker immediately ran inside his cabin to grab his gun and to get backup from Michael.
With rumors of border violence spilling over from Mexico to the United States, Sheriff Dominguez believes this may have caused the hunters to be paranoid...
In the mean time, a ballistic test will be conducted to determine which guns the bullets came from.
...CBS 7 was able to speak with Walker’s fiancé over the phone who was at the ranch that night of the shooting.
She says she cannot comment on the case until it is completed, but did want to mention that they’ve experienced multiple encounters with illegals last month, and claims to have had hundreds of dollars worth of supplies stolen by them at the ranch.

UPDATE

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We have amazing news! Walker is improving. He is now able to walk around. I will continue to delete any negative comments made on here! If you have nothing nice to say, do not say anything at all! The SIX people who were involved know what they saw. I will continue to only believe the people who I know as well as their integrity and honesty, as opposed to the "authorities" who may have skewed or unseen agendas. I will continue to pray for those who have it in their hearts to assume that this is a "SCAM" as so many have stated, as well as the six people who were involved and traumatized by this event. Thank you from the bottom of everyone's hearts, friends and family, for those that have shown nothing but love and support for the six of them as they have to face not only backlash from their own community, but from all LEO's claiming that this did not happen. PRAISE GOD that none of them were killed.

Rudy, I guess that would depend on which side of the fence is "in" and which side is "out"..

I'm not just talking. I'm problem solving. "The Wall Paid For By Mexico" is just talking.

Here's another more modest one: how about enforcing current laws on businesses and mandatory sign-up for E-Verify? (It's voluntary now and only 11% of businesses participate. Plus real illegal hiring laws are only lightly enforced. Again, ever wonder why????)

Think those that can do something about it really don't want them gone? Again, wonder why??

So you didn't vote but you want to be part of the process of problem solving?

Sometimes the only winning move is not to play.

(I voted (wrong again with the assumptions), but I know it was of no effect.)

You brought assuming into the conversation when you assumed that people that believed what Trump said he would accomplish were sheep.

Or do you have facts to support that post?

How about "I do" BEFORE you make those kind of blanket statements. You saw where Hilary got with those type of dumb a$$ statements, right?

I'm not magic. He hasn't taken office yet.

He is a pathological, narcissistic liar. That's been proven. IMO people who believe pathological, narcissistic liars are......sheep. Yours obviously differs.

Yes it does. If you look at your last post, you have said in no uncertain terms that anyone that voted for Trump is a sheep. I now see why you failed in your political ambition to find someone dumb enough to vote for you. You are a smart a$$. And that's not becoming of a man.

No, I didnt. I said anyone who BELIEVES Trump's lies is a sheep. Some people voted for him to keep Hillary out. I get that.