Kristi Noem and the dog.

Story is getting lot of traction. Sounds like she had a hunting dog, wasn’t very good. The dog killed some neighbors chickens and was untrainable. Dog was shot.

This is a pretty conservative group, would like to see some opinions.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news.../kristi-noem-kills-dog-farm/73481257007/

Got no problem with any of it. Of course the PETA and treehuggers will want her jailed.

Dem’s will take them to shelter where they’re killed. Either way they’re dead.

Those that show “shock” when it pushes their agenda. Where was your shock when Black Lives Matter and Antifa were taking over Portland and burning and looting cities?

What else would you do with it?

All I had to see was that the liberal USA Today published the story and stopped right there, whatever they posted will be distorted to fit the left wing agenda.

I tried to find a more neutral news source. They are all leftist. The Guardian was over the top.

Killing the dog is not something I would have done. She really should have kept that to herself. I really like her but I see this hurting her future political ambitions.

I’m really trying to figure out why anybody would want a future in politics.

You’d almost be better off killing a person than a dog at this point in time. It’s been like that for years…ex - Goodrich vs Vick sentences.

I have done the same. No fun. Just have to do it sometimes.

I thought everyone that lived on a farm, in the country, or with hunting/working dogs have had to put one down. I hate doing it but have had to do it on several occasions. HATE IT! But, what’s the alternative? If you’ve ever seen a euthanization go bad, you’d know that a bullet is quicker and more humane anyway. I couldn’t shoot my “pet” dogs though. They are family. No matter the cost I have to take them to the vet and pay it. I’m also getting softer in my older age. Anyway, I see no issue with the story.

RIP goat.

Every problem I've ever had with livestock has been from a Damm Dog. Weather it be cattle, hogs, chickens ginnies, rabbits you name it.

See you later dog, buy.

Getting criticized for doing what was needed - geez.

I’ve shot dogs (and cats) for less than that….

Thread reminds me of all the urbans buying chickens to get yard eggs and not consuming the non-producing hens.

You sound a lot like me Snakewrangler.

Just another disconnect between the coasts and the rest of the country.

Middle america, the “fly over despicables” are not who drive the news cycles and the culture of the elites is very different from the rest of us. This is blatantly obvious any time any news person talks about or handles a gun.

No kidding. Why is this news? Sometimes animals need shot.

OMG Brandon has a German Shepherd that bites people and they didn't kill it

Very bad optics. Valid yes... Americans understand this. They do not.

Democrats are pro life, remember?

The dog was a tool/piece of equipment for the farm and was not doing its job. It either has to be fixed or done away with if not it’s another expense for the farm. Theses are the same people that have no problem killing babies!

The story broke because she wrote about it in her new book. She’s an idiot for telling everyone about it on her own.

Why is she an idiot for that? Because she didn’t properly censor herself?

She’s an idiot because she’s a politician. Politicians have to decide if their statements are advantageous for them or not. She already had the red/country person vote. Now she just lost the soccer mom dog person vote that she was going to get for being a female.

why is this news. How many animals does HSUS kill every year?

Sounded like she should of euthanized it sooner

she didnt loose the Soccer moms there. Biggest city is less then 195k people. Its still an ag state.

I don’t think she can run for Governor again. My guess is, if she is not the VP candidate she will most likely get a cabinet position for the next 4 years.

I’m not talking about her state office. She is a legitimate contender to be Trump’s Vice President. I think that ship has sailed now.

That would make her the first open and honest person in the White House in my lifetime, probably. When the dog gets the neighbors chickens, that’s game over.

My sentiments exactly. Unfortunately, many of the dog women these days are fanatical and would gladly sacrifice your life to save a dog they’ve never even seen.

Special place in hell for PETA, USA Today and the DNC.

Hope you are wrong!!!! She is a patriot, and said FU first during the lockdowns!!

Spot on

https://www.foxnews.com/media/socia...shooting-her-14-month-old-dog-not-normal

Well a lot of social media users also call chomos “minor attracted persons” and say they can’t help it.

Which, by the way, only proves you can’t rehabilitate them. But we knew that all along.

Same people complaining about her are pitbull owners. Dumb as rocks

Dems always do the same thing they look at one issue only not the whole package

Yes you can…

Noem explained in the book how the dog had ruined a pheasant hunt, going "out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life."

The governor also noted that Cricket went AWOL and ate several of the chickens on her farm.

About the killing, Noem’s book reportedly added, "It was not a pleasant job, but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realized another unpleasant job needed to be done."

Additionally, Noem’s memoir recounted taking a family goat to the gravel pit where it suffered the same fate as Cricket. Noem justified the killing saying the goat was "nasty and mean."

"We love animals, but tough decisions like this happen all the time on a farm. Sadly, we just had to put down 3 horses a few weeks ago that had been in our family for 25 years," the governor admitted.

She also added a plug for her book, stating, "If you want more real, honest, and politically incorrect stories that’ll have the media gasping, preorder ‘No Going Back.’"

Yep. Some things just dont need to be said.

Her critics have no problem with killing humans.

I would've handled it differently. But I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I echo Stompy's sentiment.

Judd you captured my sentiments. I have a long time liberal coworker that once told me basically he valued animals and protecting animals more than humans. Mental disorder.

Animals are put down all the time, in the country.

Kristi Neom is HAWT!




That's all I have to say about that.

Agree 1,000%

X 2

People used to be praised for making tough decisions.

There are enough "dog people" idiots that would sacrifice the well being of our country over this to swing an election. Sad, but true.

She forgot the third S.

Media is portraying her as the DEVIL. This is ALL "common" people will see.

Unfortunately, there are millions of conservative dog lovers who will hate her for this.

No love for the goat?

Many of those folks on Nextdoor, see it everyday.

1) “was dangerous to anyone it came into contact with” isn’t getting nearly as much attention as it should. Everyone is focusing on the untrainable and killed chickens part.

2) that’s life on a farm for some people. I guess I would have preferred her to try and get it professionally trained by someone who knows how to get through to that breed of dog/hunts pheasants, but it killed chickens, wouldn’t hunt, and was a danger to people. I mean, dogs on a farm will be put down for any one of those things, let alone all three.

3) why on earth would she include that in the book? Especially without going into way more context and clearly explaining it attacked people/children? I haven’t read the book, but it seems like she focused more on the untrainable and refusal to hunt aspects of the dog and not that it was a danger to people.

No problem with putting the dog down.

I think that is how she meant to come across.
I have seen lives completely ruined because of the shooting of an animal that needed to be shot.
One on here previously mentioned a life being completely ruined (jail time, loss of job) over shooting feral cats.
If they are out to get you, they are looking for a reason. She gave them a reason.

What about the goat? I feel it's being left out of the conversation.

At work, we sometimes used the phrase "The world isn't ready to know about that". So, regardless of how right we were or how necessary the action was, whatever occurred wasn't publicized.

She posted this about an hour ago. She’s getting hammered.

Fellow S Dakotan Tomi Lauren chimes in.

Tomi Lahren is dead wrong. It is in fact a facet of rural life.

I've had to put down dogs, cats, cows, chickens and goats. It is just the way it is.

This doesn't appear to be working out very well for her.

Love that dog!

Acting tough only works until proven you are not. Probably wishes she'd kept the dog and goat putdowns to herself at this point. Her VP aspirations are likely done now and possibly future governor terms. The average person is not going to consider putting down animals as courageous or a tough call type decision; the whole story's portrayal tone sounds off and didn't need to be in her memoirs. Personally, I get the need to address unruly animals, just don't think I'd put it out in writing in public spheres.

Even Catturd turned on her. He’s pretty conservative.

Much ado about nothing. It’s so easy to discredit anyone these days. People do it just to get to say something and get noticed.

Seeing JG’s post made me think back to years past. I do not remember shooting a chicken. If I had a chicken, I guess I’d go shoot it, just to fill out the farm boy grand slam. The list of what I have shot over the decades is pretty long. No chicken though. My neighbor has chickens…

I don't know who "catturd" is, but if I read "Remember, I'm a country boy who lives on a ranch (extra space) period, my bullshite meter starts going bezerk. The definition of "ranch" has been greatly expanded in the last 10 years.

People at that level are supposed to have political advisors to keep them from making self inflicted political mistakes. I feel bad for her but there’s no taking this one back.

I still like her and would vote for her……

This put a stake in the heart of her VP aspirations. Every bit as career killing as Ross Perots rape joke.

Absolutely. Me too. She already had my vote though. She was really popular with middle aged women who are known for voting with their hearts rather than their heads. I don’t see it working out for her very well.

Especially after the crap Romney took for the whole strapping the family dog to the roof of his car. That story came out 15 or so years ago and they still hit Romney with it.

She clearly recognizes the differences between humans and animals. I suspect she also recognizes a clear line of distinction between her pets, if she has any, and true members of her family.

I believe that was Clayton Williams that made that fireside joke.

With all the dog shooters on here, the comments in this thread surprise me. Nothing to take back. If you have to hide what you did, it may not have been the right thing. Biting people or killing farm animals both warrant putting a dog down. Protecting the neighbors and farm animals from a bad dog was the right thing to do. Doing the right thing is not always pretty. Having the guts to do the right thing when it’s not pretty is a testament to character.

That was Clayton Williams not Ross Perot.

Tucker interviews catturd

Yep.. Clayton not Ross.

And he (Clayton Williams) lost the Governors race to Ann Richards because of that dumb azz comment

Probably would have been president someday too.

So many are right on here. Kristi shouldn't be forward and truthful about herself.

Someone refusing to be a politician is good in my book.

Any of us that grew up on a farm or rural area with farms, knows that this story is a non-issue and nothing that is out of the ordinary. The only difference between what happens in the country vs. the city is who puts the dog down.

Had a friend that owned a dairy. Any dog that chased a cow got one warning.

Some things you just take care of and don’t talk about it..

Growing up, my neighborhood had a feral cat problem. We didn’t talk about it, just handled it.

Sounds like the dog had a lack of proper training, and the need for containment. Some take more time to mature.
Not questioning the action of the owner, but I would have left that out of the book.

Take it to a shelter where they will "peacefully" put it to sleep.

Come a long ways to use someone who goes by "cat turd" as a reference.

catturd is a legand on X

I have zero issue with what she did related to the dog. Putting the details about it in a book, will lock up the brakes on her political career for a national level office though.

Dogs get the death penalty for killing farm animals in rural America. It's not new.

Somes who are not productive and not worth feeding have "issues" with this ubject.

I was on a bird hunt with a guide years ago and he had a dog that couldn't perform. Same fate for him that day.

I could never run for office

Welcome to the new world. It's a strange time we live in.

Most of the time when a dog goes off the rails, it is because it was never trained or shown any boundaries. Sorry, but I believe most dog problems originated with the owner.

probably but end result is still the same

Pedos, rapist, serial killers typically have troubled childhood too. The origin story does not matter, wood chipper feet first is how they should be handled.

If a dog or a cat (yes a cat will kill them too) gets my chickens i would definitely be more humane about it, its just a animal. But there is only one way to deal with it.

Some of them folks cry foul are the same ones that dump a poorly behaved pet in the woods, i know for a fact.

Just like some folks that dont believe in spanking beat the hell out of their now grown adult kids.

And for most people that spend too much time on social media, outrage is recreational.

Don’t even get me started about why her dog was on a neighbor’s property killing their animals. I’ve had dogs for 40 years and none of them ever put a paw down on someone else’s property.

Wouldn’t it be neat if killing a child was considered by the masses as outrageous as killing a dog?

If this country cared as much about unborn children as they do for animals, America would be a better place to live.

Sorry, Sneaky, I didn't read your post before posting a similar thought...

If you knew for a fact that someone was dumping dogs, what did you do about it?

Beat the hell out of your kids really If you had to beat the hell out of your kids, then you probably did a chitty job raising them as a parent!

I had to take the belt to my son twice when he was real around 4,5 or 6?, swatted him fairly hard two or three times, daughter once.

Welp i been working on the overshare but since you want to call me out, i’ll settle this one quick.

Let’s just say I didn’t have a very normal upbringing, until my grandma took me in, lol.

Edited.

Deleted.

Amen

Almost any other serious crime is punished more severely than crimes against children.

Was not calling you out on the dog situation just asking what you did. Had no clue that you were 6 years old and it was your dog and there was not squat you could do, bad situation for you!

On the beating children, yes I was calling you out on that for I cannot read between the lines, again had no clue of your situation.
It irritated me that you would make a blanket statement about parents that do not believe in beating their kids, sounded like you advocated the beating of kids in general.
My dad was a hot headed a-hole that beat on us whether we deserved it or not.

That's how we handled things in the sticks. If your dog goes after livestock it's far game.

Welp i tried to edit/fix/ delete that overshare, late on the draw

Noem’s own words, regardless of the left wing media character attack:

“The fact is, South Dakota law states that dogs who attack and kill livestock can be put down,” she wrote. “Given that Cricket had shown aggressive behavior toward people by biting them, I decided what I did.”

I love dogs. I own and hunt German bred versatile dogs that are sharp on vermin. Some dogs are mentally unstable. There is a line where trying to rehabilitate a dog is no longer worth the risk associated with rehabilitation. When your bird dog goes to biting people, it crosses that line. She did the right thing and makes no apology. What the heck is wrong with people. Putting a biting dog over people is lunacy. Mamby Pamby left wing Karen’s were never going to vote for Noem in the first place. Theirs are votes Noem never would have got on a ticket with Trump anyway.

I didn’t even get to the part about biting people.

I remember when a chow grabbed my little cousin by the face and shook her. Everybody cried about what happened to that stupid dog too.

Screw that dog. People are crazy.

Amen! Can't believe people have nothing more going on in their daily lives than to worry about dog getting killed.

She's getting killed by this on MSM, even Gutfeld had a long segment last night. Of course, none of these folks have ever lived out in the country.

Yup

I saw this in another site and had to laugh

A dog, a goat, and three horses. Kristi Noem shot an entire petting zoo.

She's finished as a VP candidate.

she's done

Oh Im really not every going to be able to run for office

Kristi will keep getting re-elected as Governor of S Dakota if she runs, not a bad gig.
Her net worth is around $6 million so she will not starve regardless.

If she did not run for governor again, wonder if she would be welcome on the very lucrative speech/lecture circuit?

Tulsi just moved up in the pecking order

I like her. A lot.

I am afraid that she will be met by barking and "dog killer" chants for the rest of her life.

Shes a hard core liberal. Maybe in the cabinet, but heck no for VP IMO.

This.

I like her but do not trust her.

I think she is playing the "winning" side when necessary.

jmo

for the last 45 yrs. I have lived on rural property, there is a huge difference between a "lil fur baby puppy dog" and a working dog.

I have friends that have had to put down some otherwise cool dogs due to real bad habits. one was an aussie shepard that would not quit biting peoples heels, drew blood on me at least 3 times.

there are limits to what can be tolerated on a working ranch, I manage one now and any dog on property is subject to dog rules, won't shoot them but they won't be back if they are a problem.

Other than a possible 50/50 tie breaker (an odd event) wouldn't she have less power as a VP?

What happens if trump dies? He's not young. His VP pick needs to be about the future.

I'm so tired of the Sheeple worrying about chit that doesn't matter.

I'd like for those that are, to work their hands to bleeding blisters and worry about having enough water and food for their family that night. They need to live about ten years through another Great Depression for reality to punch them in the nose. Only then will they figure out what matters and what doesn't matter.

This Neom "incident" is just a day that ends in Y out in the country.

Yep. People need something better to do.

We're a nation of cowards and weaklings led by the hopelessly corrupt. Life in the United States is actually so good that the simple-minded have time to worry about dogs, sports and the likes of Taylor Swift. Thanks to our forefathers we don't have to struggle to survive and we show them our gratitude by becoming a nation of degenerates.

I'll take this over any of the DC 'Swamp Creatures' any time.

100% agree!

Hard times make hard men
Hard men make good times
Good times make soft men <<we are here
Soft men make hard times

In my opinion, the last hard times this country had was 1941 to 1945.

I’m blaming video games

ditto. Hat tip for telling the Clintons and DNC to off themselves, but your Second voting stance dont lie nor does your free for all(the poor) health care stance

Hell know I want her to run for President, she is normal, and understands the earth’s actual hierarchy. Goats, Dogs, Horses etc arent humans

She ruined it for me when she proved she wasn’t smart enough to keep certain things to herself. Some things you just don’t talk about. I think she’s great otherwise though.

Had she been a Texan, SSS. We would have never known.

was it taboo 15 years ago? Ive told a story on here about neighbors dog that I caught running my horse through a fence.


the fact its an issue is whats wrong with the US. You dont champion for the life of an animal that attacks people or livestock. Fact its an issue if you don't and especially if you terminate the problem is a bigger issue with in society. Does your food death occur at farm or super market

Ursus Horribillis is now apparently a protected cuddly animal you take selfies with also

She hasn't ruined anything for me, I would vote for above 99.9% of of the politicians out there, without hesitation.

Trying to repair society by crashing headfirst into it wouldn’t be my plan. Changing societal norms takes time. IMO it’s a moot point anyway. The media controls or country and we know who controls them.

Had a buddy that always had cattle. His neighbor started letting a dog run loose and he caught the dog running some calves so he told his neighbor that if he saw the dog doing that again, he intended to shoot it. The neighbor said he moved to the country so he could let his dog run loose but if he had to shoot it, don't just wound it. My friend told him not to worry about that.

Next time he rolled up, there's the dog - chasing calves again.
He pulled his 10/22 out of the truck and emptied it in the dog.
I asked, "where's the dog now?"....He said he's still laying right there.

Unfortunately unless you move to her state, I don’t believe you will ever have the opportunity to vote for her now.

Discretion is the better part of valor. Unfortunately, I think her chances went down the tube with this disclosure. Probably a different story if she uses the SS&S method.

Noem was trying to make it clear that deciding to take a dog's life is easy, compared with what goes into making decisions that will surely lead to the death of humans.

IMO, her comment has drawn out of the woodwork those who deep inside believe it's better to live on your knees than die on your feet.

Well, I guess I’d better not run for any sort of office. My past history with dogs and cats and other would put me in the dog house for sure.

Me too. I had to put one down, guess I’ll never get into politics lol.

I lack the desire and probably the ability anyway. Not that a lack of ability is slowing them down.

^^^^^^^

No....that one has been proven to be a bad idea.

Hard to believe someone would so love to hear themselves talk that they divulge any story, even if it destroys their career. So goes a dumba__ __. Should have had the dog training her.

I guess over the weekend they realized she put in the book about meeting Kim Jong...she never did

People are so dumb...

Yikes

She was just on Kudlow and tried to make her case. It didn't land. She keeps saying it's all about making tough decisions. Have never heard her say the magic words " that's how you do it in the country."

Hard to kill your own pup, but if it is killing livestock...it has to go. Bad idea writing about though, these days all the panty waist
spinless tree huggin liberals go absolutely nuts over things like this. Especially if it's a conservative or republican, or someone else who does not
suck up at the great fountain of woke idiocrasy. Like the old saying goes: " Never give your enemies a bigger stick to beat you with. "

I keep my dogs healthy as possible. Have had large vet bills, but when the critter is to the point they can't control their bowels or bladder, or is in visible pain from something that can't be fixed, you are one cruel Sorry Old Boy, if you don't put them out of their misery. Vet's can give a shot where they just go to sleep. I hate it, but I won't let my old buddies suffer needlessly.

She's making the rounds. Just on with Jesse Watters. Same tune.

Better question is why. I’ve put dogs, horses, cows etc down. Why is this taboo?

Part of life and animal ownership responsibility.

because of snowflakes and weak men we have wild horses destroying habitat all over the west, dogs roaming ranches, etc

She was on Fox business getting picked at by some English dude. She held her own against him.

Looked pretty good by the way.

That was Stuart Varney. He was kind of rude and she did a good job putting him in his place at the very end. Good for her! I'm ready to see him go.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kristi-noem-snaps-fox-business-180506158.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

“Enough, Stuart. This interview is ridiculous, which you are doing right now,” Noem said. “So you need to stop. It is OK. It is. Let’s talk about some real topics that Americans care about.”

Can you imagine the reaction if some of these idgits ever realize that young, innocent bull calves often need to have a certain incision at a vital area?

Gender mutilation is celebrated...

People have no idea where their food comes from. And what the men, women, and children have to go through to produce it.

I'm a huge Varney fan but he went overboard on this one. Really disappointed and switched channels right after. Cavuto was stupid yesterday also. I think the FOX heads are ordering this.

Didn't she say this dog was killing chickens aren't chickens worth more than dog that's killing chickens.

More city dwellers than country types and they just don't get it. She can go on every show on tv but she's lost this fight because of her poor explanation.

Unforced error...... I totally understand, but not everyone has the same perspective, so why put that out there....

Now the thing about rocket man..... that can not be excused.

Bring on Tulsi!

She'd be alright if she wasn't anti 2A.

And a globalist and a berneycrat and...

Shake your head trapper your eyes are stuck. Illegally killing someone else’s dog is why the dog killers on here hide it. She legally killed her own dog for killing chickens and biting people. What the hell is wrong with y’all. The dog needed killing. Bobo was spot on. Weak men afraid to stand up and call bull crap at all the mamby pamby political correctness mess in our country is the only reason this is even being talked about. I find it hard to believe that even a single one of y’all are suggesting Noem cow down to that crap. That is not who she is. That is precisely the reason those I, who am not real big on women in politics to start with, support Noem.

Nobody in here cares about her killing the dog, myself included. She’s an idiot for telling people about it and trying to be the VP. She alienated many of the suburban women voters the GOP doesn’t have but would have if she hadn’t cackled about this for no intelligent reason.

That is a fair statement. I don’t go around sharing details of putting down a beloved pet, and i am probably the most over-sharingest mf on all of THF

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Nobody in here cares about her killing the dog, myself included. She’s an idiot for telling people about it and trying to be the VP. She alienated many of the suburban women voters the GOP doesn’t have but would have if she hadn’t cackled about this for no intelligent reason. [/quote]

I respectfully disagree with you Trapper. Suburban Texas is blue. Noem, or Trump for that matter are not chasing the liberal suburban vote. Their platform is to give us back the great America we love that the soft metromen and female suburban Karens are trying to reshape.

Exactly. There’s no good reason we shouldn’t be able to talk about this aspect of life. People have gone soft and live in a bubble.

Is this some kind of joke, or are you trying to reinforce the idea of this entire forum thinking that you’re a liberal?

The wokesters hate her so much, I would support her just for that. The left has swung so far off the rails, you pretty much have to support the CCP to be accepted into their ranks.

I don’t dislike her, at all. And as far as democrats go, she doesn’t scare me. But she’s not on our side, as far as I’m concerned.

Nobody in here cares about her killing the dog, myself included. She’s an idiot for telling people about it and trying to be the VP. She alienated many of the suburban women voters the GOP doesn’t have but would have if she hadn’t cackled about this for no intelligent reason. [/quote]

I respectfully disagree with you Trapper. Suburban Texas is blue. Noem, or Trump for that matter are not chasing the liberal suburban vote. Their platform is to give us back the great America we love that the soft metromen and female suburban Karens are trying to reshape.

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I don’t see why they would be chasing anyone in Texas. It’s essentially a sure thing. The rest of the country is another matter though. Undecided swing voters are the target. Those wishy washy people typically decide elections. She just torqued off a considerable volume of them for no reason. I predict unless you move to her state, you will never even have the opportunity to vote for her. I hope I’m wrong because I like her politics, but I don’t think I’ll be proven wrong.

Do you think I care what anyone on here thinks.....

Yes, I do.

I respectfully disagree with you Trapper. Suburban Texas is blue. Noem, or Trump for that matter are not chasing the liberal suburban vote. Their platform is to give us back the great America we love that the soft metromen and female suburban Karens are trying to reshape.

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I don’t see why they would be chasing anyone in Texas. It’s essentially a sure thing. The rest of the country is another matter though. Undecided swing voters are the target. Those wishy washy people typically decide elections. She just torqued off a considerable volume of them for no reason. I predict unless you move to her state, you will never even have the opportunity to vote for her. I hope I’m wrong because I like her politics, but I don’t think I’ll be proven wrong.[/quote]

You bring up a good point.

So, is she stupid for being herself and being a real and honest person and actually speaking about it even if it costs her points in her political career? Do we want her to act more like a politician and say only what will get her elected?

We don't have to worry about her anymore, she's done.

Nobody in here cares about her killing the dog, myself included. She’s an idiot for telling people about it and trying to be the VP. She alienated many of the suburban women voters the GOP doesn’t have but would have if she hadn’t cackled about this for no intelligent reason. [/quote]

I respectfully disagree with you Trapper. Suburban Texas is blue. Noem, or Trump for that matter are not chasing the liberal suburban vote. Their platform is to give us back the great America we love that the soft metromen and female suburban Karens are trying to reshape.

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that map is scary if its accurate.

She has had a big change of heart on the 2A. Time will tell, but I believe her reasoning.

To answer Sneaky:

She won’t get the opportunity to be herself and be real as a vice president now in my opinion so that’s how I look at it.
“Sugar on the lips and murder in the heart to our enemies” We had hidden morale patches with that on them.

Right. She wasn’t willing to sell out is the way I see it.

Shes kinda getting called out on saying she met Ken Jong Un. Then having to take that out of the book.

She didn’t have to sell anything. Just keep her mouth shut. I imagine she’s done numerous personal things that she didn’t put in her book.

Exactly and so much that is right about her. Some of youins on here would rather her hide and lie - I don't get it. Sticking your finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing is what got us where we are now. Leaders should, ahem, lead.

I respectfully disagree with you Trapper. Suburban Texas is blue. Noem, or Trump for that matter are not chasing the liberal suburban vote. Their platform is to give us back the great America we love that the soft metromen and female suburban Karens are trying to reshape.

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I don’t see why they would be chasing anyone in Texas. It’s essentially a sure thing. The rest of the country is another matter though. Undecided swing voters are the target. Those wishy washy people typically decide elections. She just torqued off a considerable volume of them for no reason. I predict unless you move to her state, you will never even have the opportunity to vote for her. I hope I’m wrong because I like her politics, but I don’t think I’ll be proven wrong.[/quote]

I think Trump’s ego is too big for him to select Noem as his VP regardless of whether she has the moxie to put down a bad dog or pay someone else to do it. When Trump recommended shutting down the country, Republican Governors across the country blindly followed his recommendations. Noem is one of the few that defied Trump when all that mess happened. Noem is one of the very few Governors who stood up against the president, and she got it right. I like Noem’s moxie. I don’t believe Trump’s ego would let him select a VP that bested him though. I think a more likely scenario would be an appointment in his cabinet if he gets a second term in the White House.

Some of youins, don't know sic 'em from come here about being a leader. Leaders are self-disciplined. Leaders have a rational mindset and weigh pros vs cons when making decisions. Not all winners are leaders but all leaders are winners. If she was a leader, she wouldn't currently be on her damage control tour. With the Kim Jong Un fiasco blowing up, now the question is if she's a liar, or a complete dullard. I don't care how many people you have met in your life, you accurately remember if you met "Rocket Man" or not.

Trump's ego wants to be president again and they know exactly who will pull the most votes as VP...that is who he will pick, it has zero to do with who has defied him in the past...as long as they are willing to take a knee to him now and will be the best option to get him additional votes he might not now have. If Hillary fell into all those categories, he'd take her...you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Maybe dog needed to be dealt with, but you don't tell everything you know, just because you know it, especially if you are trying to persuade people to like and trust you. If she did not know that by now, she was never going to win any election or help anyone win anyway.

Personally, I think she’s done with politics. Can’t run again for Governor. More interested in selling books.

If I was setup in South Dakota at that age last thing I'd do is get into national politics and move to DC. Maybe she sabotaged herself on purpose.

I havent followed this much but I may kind of be caught up now.
It seems to me that her telling about the dog was a win win IN HER MIND AT THE TIME.
How she deals with animals is a win for her(in her mind).
Telling about it is also a win for her(in her mind).
Its not like someone blind sided her and caught her off guard and she blurted it out. She and her advisors must of thought long and hard about putting it in that book and felt it was in her best interest. Rather it was best for her as a person or for her political career is yet to be seen. Im rooting for her.