Hecs camo suit

Just saw their show the other day and was curious if anyone uses or has used this camo? Seems like a gimmick to me but i usually feel this way about most products. Just curious to hear testimony, one way or the other, from real people that have used it. Thank you.

I can't speak to the quality of Hecs camo but the host of that show seems like a total tool. I wouldn't buy it just for that reason.

I know some guys that use it and swear by it

Sounds like a gimmick to me. How do big cats get close to animals without an electrosuit? Sounds a lot like the carbon suits that were proven worthless. I fell for the carbon clothing when I started bow hunting 20 years ago. I don't use it anymore and I get the same reactions.

Don't fall for junk like this and just hunt.

How did we ever hunt deer without it?

Who needs to get within 3 feet of a turkey? (On their website). Even if it worked at all, which I question, I doubt it would work beyond 20-30 yards. Your game is plenty close by then. P_102

I would love to know if this works. Spear fisherman seam to think it does for their application but does that transfer to mammals?

I will confess, I have one and use it.
I have no scientific data, just what I have seen while wearing it.
With it I get attacked by squirrels on a regular basis, never happens without suit.
Twice now while walking to the blind in the dark using a red light I have walked to within 5 feet of rabbits, said good morning and asked if they had seen any deer or hogs. Then had to walk around the rabbit to continue down path. They looked at me and didn't run.

Does this mysterious field exist? Can it be blocked? I don't know.

M

I saw this on the Pursuit Channel. They show a diver next to a shark. When they show a Great White with blood in the water, I might buy one.

"There's a sucker born every minute."

- P.T. Barnum

The interesting thing about the HECS is in every thread I have seen about it the majority of the comments are, I don't have one, never seen or heard of it but I know it doesn't work.
Saying please explain is met with ridicule.
M

There's no real science behind it. (A theory with big words thrown around is not science.) No studies showing it will work. It's silly on its face.

Scent lok stuff has been shown either to not work at all or maybe, possibly buy a few seconds under optimal conditions.

Yet people still buy the stuff. Why? Psychology. Astrology, Bigfoot, miracle cures, and every other gimmick works the same way. No science, no proof - just gobbledygook and rainbows. They make their $$$ off the simple premise that you can't prove a negative. They operate on the gullibility of human beings.

Nothing new under the sun.

Excellent example of what I stated in my previous post.
Thank you

M

You're welcome.

He's an expert on products he's never purchased or used. And insults people who have.......he will be along soon to try to deny all this but his post speaks for itself.

Whatever. If trying to bring common sense about suits that supposedly block EMF body waves that supposedly alert animals and warning people against wasting their money makes me a bad guy, so be it. IMO the whole post is silly just as the notion of such a product actually being a benefit is silly. It's stupid on the face of it.

I haven't purchased a bullhorn to call deer by yelling "C'Mere deer!!!" into it either. That doesn't mean I don't know it's not a stupid thing to buy.

The product is unproven. A gimmick. A pig in a poke. Hunters hunt. Hunters know what works and what doesn't. Hunters don't try to buy success by falling for every stupid gimmick product that comes down the pike.

I said there's no science behind it. That's a true fact. That's a reasonable thing to point out in discussing a product's effectiveness. You want to show me some real science or just bit*h and moan as you always do when I post something?

What don't you understand about the question the op asked above?

Have you used this product? If not, your opinion is not needed or wanted in this post. You bring this on yourself, it has nothing to do with me counselor.

Thanks sheriff.

Have you used it? Any opinions? Looks like you are just here to troll me.

Seasons almost here...let's all try to make it

As far as the suit, I agree with NP...while I might disagree with his delivery, I think he is on point.

As far as someone's opinion that hasn't used it, I'm not going to go buy every new product so I can speak on it. I'm going to let others do the research for me and form an opinion based on trusted sources.

Just like ozonics, carbon clothing, scent blockers, etc. If it works for you, outstanding! It doesn't take away from your opinion that I disagree or am skeptical, yours actually carries more weight IMO because you use one.

I have one it was a gift. Not very good quality IMO and I am certain it works as well as scentlock which is another all hype no substance product. But these type products are one part of the capitalist system Unfortunately. That's a small price to pay to have the freedoms we have I guess. If you can convince folks of something they want to believe they will spend lots of money on it.
Like right now all the panic over fuel is being driven by sheer rumor and the media and if folks would have gone about their normal routines there would have been no long lines and only an few isolated temporary outages of gas but now they have created a widespread panic so the shortage is created.

No I have not, which is why I didn't post an opinion on it. I opened this to hear opinions from people who have them or know others that do who have shared their experience with them.

Well, I won't post an opinion on the suit, but will post an opinion regarding science and testimonials on products like HEC suits scent locker, and Ozonics. The science behind all of these is questionable, particularly when being applied as they are in the field. This isn't opinion but fact. Testimonials are often grand. Many of the claimed testimonials are the same things you see happening elsewhere without such gear. Of course, you get the same such amazing testimonials with people's special blend bait concoctions, camo patterns, scent covers, you name it. Without a HEC suit, I have had deer walk within 3 yards of me and feed for nearly an hour. I have had rodents run across my legs and had a snake pass between my feet. More than once I have had raccoons try to get in the stand with me. As for swimming with sharks, here is the promotional video showing how amazingly well it works. Isn't this really amazing?????? How could a diver ever get so close to such terrifying and dangerous animals?


Now, here is a video of divers swimming with sharks as well, NO HECS suit. WARNING: Video not for the faint of heart.


Holy cow if divers interacted with sharks without a HECS suit. How could that be possible?

Simple, the proclaimed correlation between wearing the HECS and being able to swim with sharks is not causative. When you can get the same sorts of result by not using a given product, then that is an indication that the given product's claims are likely not as realistic as they have portrayed.

Shop smarter, not poorer.

I own the HECS and the GameHide camo with HECS. all I can say it has changed my hunting experience and those of my friends that have bought it. all animals act natural not scitish. squirells dont alarm. have had birds land on my head. Friend bow hunting a world class audad had it walk and stop 6 ft from him sitting in a chair on the ground. when he drew and spun on the ram it spun and looked at him and left. he was smart not to let fly. I am able to walk slowly and sit in my hay patch and watch deer. they do not pay attention to me. I have also had horses freak out when i wear the suit. like one other person said. walking to the blind in the mornings coons and such do not run.

I'm sorry if my delivery is kinda harsh (I just consider it straightforward.) My intent is to be clear/explain my opinion about these types of unproven "hype" products. I've seen them come and I've seen them go by the hundreds since hunting became a commercial/TV industry.

Of a thousand that have come along, I can think of maybe 2 that have actually worked. (Thermacell comes to mind.)
If something actually works, you'll know it soon enough just by watching the market/reading the forums.

I just hate to see folks parted from their hard-earned money.

I also met a guy from florida who owns the HECS wet suit. he swore by it. said he does not need to spear lobster when he dives. swims right up picks them up and puts them in his bag. When he spear fishes he takes which ever fish he wants. i cannot explain the technology and how it works. But it works. I would highly recommend for public land hunting. if you haven't tried it how can you really deny it? i wear on all my hunts and scouting. want to go kill coons. put the suit on and get a green flash light and just shoor with a pistol.

buy it. try it and you will be pleased. still have to do the other things right also. control scent, play the wind etc. do not pay attention to the naysayers who have never experienced wearing and hunting with the use of HECS. let me just say i was never able to get close to any deer on my property. 100yds 200yds they would bust me. when wearing the suit I have yet to have a deer blow and run off. I have the best luck just sitting on the ground in the brush, next to a large tree. one morning had 4 bucks while i was sitting next to a scrub cedar. let fly with my crossbow and missed a massive ten pt 3 times. twice right over his back at 20yds and once under his chest at 50. now think about that. crossbow noise, arrow crashing into trees. was able to pull crossbow down and hand draw twice. noise, movement and yet none of the bucks gave nothing more than a glance. at one point the ten after missing at 50 ran strate to me and was was 10' away. but none of the deer sensed me. they finally moved off into the woods but not scared. they walked off. this happened over a period of 20 minutes. so $140.00 for the suit or $100 for pants and jacket each from gamehide, when we spend that much on quality camo already does not seem unreasonable to me for something that works. science or not it just works. i dont know what to say about those that have never experienced hunting with the suit i guess they are trying to be noble protecting your own money. you earned it,do with it as you wish.
i never hunt without it.

So not only is the HECS suit disguising waderaider1, but it has disguised the crossbow and arrows such that the buck is now blind and deaf to them. I don't recall any sort of projected coverage promoted by the HECS suit people, yet that is what you are claiming as a benefit to it.

If somebody could demonstrate for me that land mammals, such as deer, sense and utilize bioelectric field information as is implied for predator avoidance, I would be much more impressed. Strangely, there is no documentation of deer being or other terrestrial land mammals being able to do this.

Fish do use electromagnetic signals to sense the bioelectric discharges of other animals. In fact, most or all species of fish have a well studied systems in their body dedicated to this very thing called the lateral line system and in sharks, they also have the Ampullae of Lorenzini on their heads for this purpose. Some species of fish also have receptors in their gills. Electroreception of the bioelectric signals in mammals is known only in the platypus and one or two species of dolphin.

You must be a Democrat if that is what you comprehended from that. Reading things that are not there. What I said is all they did was glance in my direction to the noise. They did not see or sense me.The op asked for an honest opinion from someone who has and uses that's what I did. If you haven't you do not have a first hand opinion. You do have an opinion regardless of how baseless it is the the actual use of he's.

waderaider1 - You must be extremely gullible. I once stalked up on a deer, and got within about 20 yards. I was so excited, and my adrenaline pumping so much, that I missed with my first, second and third arrow before he trotted off. Disgusted, I walked out into the open field to find him standing about 70 yards away. So, for grins, I knocked an arrow and casually walked directly at him. I stopped 30 yards away and missed a fourth time. I must have been wearing HECS for that to have happened!!! Nope. Just camo. Plain old walmart brand camo. Deer are funny and will do strange things. That's not the only one I have gotten close to over the years, just the most embarrassing. LOL.

How am I gullible? I hunted my place 7 years.could never get close. Always busted. Started using the HECS doing everything else the same and a totally different experience. I hope the OP get one and has the improved hunting experience as this I know who have bought it and have experienced the same. Go ahead and flame away.

A great many very important things are based on pure faith with science giving no backup.
To watch the the Big Game on TV the team jersey is worn, and other rituals observed with hope it will help the team win.
If the HECS works or not, what is more important is the hunter believes it does and has more confidence to try to make a close approach.

M

Waveraider1, If it's too good to be true, it probably is. I didn't believe in scentlok form the get go, and it has been proven wrong. There have been a slew of gimmicks that have come and gone, and I never bought into them, however, I, and half a billion other hunters are able to get close to deer without the help of any "special" clothing. I even hunted once in slacks, dress shoes, button up dress shirt and a very nice black leather jacket because I packed my rifle and forgot my camo. Take the money spent on the HECS suit and spend it on something that will keep you dry and warm, and you will be better off.

My guess is that you are doing something different and just don't know it. Years ago, I saw few deer and always seemed to get busted. As I got older and became a smarter hunter, I started seeing more and more deer. I didn't think I was doing anything different, but I was. I was sitting more still. Using cover better, paying better attention to the wind, reading sign better, learning the deer patterns...and sometimes, I just got lucky.

Again who are you guys that interject without experience? I don't get it. The OP asked a specific question.
I fit the bil to answer as I have several Hecs suits. so I am Gulible because I buy something that works for me and fellow hunters I know. I am speaking from personal experience. all you guys have is negetive comments. I am a big boy and work hard for my money and will spend on what I see fit. if the suit did not work for me as advertised I would not have bought a second or the heavier camo from Gamehide. I am sure the OP is the same it is his money. I gave an honest truthful testimonial. so who on the board are fools. those that answer with experience with the product or those that chastise and ridicule without first hand experience. I have shared my experience with other hunters who have purchased and they have seen a big difference in their hunting experience. these are wealthy experienced hunters and ranch owner. they are not fools or gulible either. so everybody has shown their hand in this thread and some opinons should be kept to themselves. I would never tell a person who has experienced or is experiencing something positive from a product that they are wrong.

Thanks for sharing your experience with the suit. It is amazing how so many are so concerned about protecting your money isn't it?

I appreciate the few guys that stood up and said they saw a difference.... thanks!

Never payed attention to this "suit" before this thread and now I'm interested.

HECS suits, bullets that kill every deer "DRT", rifles that have to shoot 1/4 MOA, Scentlok, Ozonics, expensive deer attractant food products ........... the list goes on and on and on.

If many guys spent as much time on their woodsmanship/hunting skills as they did looking for that "magic shortcut", they would actually see real improvements in their success rather than imaginary ones.

You can't buy yourself into being a better hunter.

Your "experience" is simply the limited anecdotal stories of one person. It doesn't "prove" anything. It doesn't exclude or even take into account any number of reasons why you had more success. Including luck.

An old Native American in Arizona had a ram "talisman" he said would bring me luck on my sheep hunts. He was an entertaining gentleman so I bought it for 20 bucks just for that. I dropped it in my pack. Killed a big ram on that hunt and an even bigger one last month with it still in there.

I'm sure that I would have gone home empty-handed without its magical powers aiding me.

Your "experience" with the HECS suit and mine with the talisman have the same scientific value. Zero.

How would you know?

I'm curious since your speaking like your lecture comes from experience?

No.

"Experience" is not science. Or even evidence.

Read my posts. (Particularly the talisman example. Read also the only science based post on here by another poster.)I believe they explain my position on the matter clearly. It's mostly just plain old common sense.

I get you don't like what I have to say. We all get it. Funny there are half a dozen posts just like mine and you choose to respond only to mine. Your intent here is plain.

Don't flatter yourself counselor. You are not that important.

It's the woodmanship/hunting skills I was referring to, not the HECS suit.

Not saying they have proved that it works, but if it makes you feel more confident, then that is a win. And for those who say it is a gimmick, so were cars at one time, until they proved their worth and now we all use them. If it helps, use it. Why not?

No, it wasn't. Nice attempt at a save though.

I have neither the need nor the desire to get in a pissing contest with you or anyone else about hunting skills/experience. I have more than some and less than others - and we can leave it at that.

I do have enough to know what matters and what doesn't. Learning and developing one's skills matters.Gimmicks - not so much. It's why duffers buy 5 putters a year, and why Jordan Spieth can take any one of them and outputt them.

Forums like this lend themselves to ad nauseum discussions about "stuff" (rifles, ammo, gear, etc.). Ever noticed how long the ".270 vs. .30-06" threads go? So does TV. So lots of folks have a very over-inflated notion of how important "stuff" is when it comes to hunting. It's about 10% of the equation and gets about 90% of the discussion. And a good bit of that 90% is about useless to marginally useful "stuff" touted as the next "magic" bullet.

Pretty much anyone over 30 who has had their eyes open is well aware of this.

Nogalus Prairie"90% is about useless to marginally useful "stuff"."

98% of the posts on this thread is useless stuff

You liberals are so dilusional you don't even know when you become the thought police. Go back and read all the BS you just posted. You not only tell me what I'm really thinking, but you do the same to others that have actually used the Hecs. And insult their intelligence by pretty much tellin them their too stupid to realize their own experience with the suit. And then lecture all who don't hunt or think the way you do. When someone like me calls you out for this BS, you cry that your being trolled.

You have bought your way to successful hunts over putting in the work and scouting yourself, but you lecture others in this post for buying shortcuts to success. Grow up and get over yourself!!

As I said, I don't need to get in a pissing contest with you or anyone else. Think whatever you want about me if it helps you feel better about yourself. And troll away. I'm happy to provide that crutch for you.

I'll let my posts speak for themselves. I've never been suspended from this forum for trolling anyone.

But you can't say that for yourself can you?

Actually, I can (but again, that's another topic).
You have 6 posts on this thread. 5 of them are nothing but trolling me. None on the subject. Yeah, they speak for themselves alright.

If calling me a troll for calling you out for your unwanted condescending comments that serve no purpose for what the op asked for when he posted this thread makes you feel important, continue down your delusional path.

Just thinking. The only ones who say it works are the ones that have tried it. BTW, I made a couple of calls to guys that have used it. Since I evidently have more $ than brains, I'm gonna buy one just to try it out.

Do I really need one? Probably not but I also don't need the safe full of guns that I rarely shoot, way too much reloading gear and too many tackle boxes and rods/reels.

Done; maybe blew $179.99 but that's not really all that unusual. I'll give my experience during bow season.

I'll stay tuned for your feedback Dave.

I know of a guy that swears by it. I wouldn't pay that for it though.

Bow season starts soon. I'll try it then.

Me too.

So you are reduced to ad hominem attack to represent your position? Excellent logic.

There is no evidence to support that deer have the ability to sense bioelectric fields from other animals. There is no evidence that deer use bioelectroreception or bioelectromagnetoreception to avoid predators of any sort. It really is that simple. The case from HECS that since some animals can orient themselves with the magnetic field of the earth and hence can sense the bioelectric fields of other animals is spurious at best.

Bigfoot must wear HECS

Ad hominem is all some have.

What if it does work? Let's use that, Ozonics, and Scent Lok, and we won't even have to hunt anymore.

This op asked for people who have used the HECS to post their experience with it. The OP stated he was skeptical and wanted to hear from people who have used it. Yet you two, along with others seem to feel the need to raise an awareness of being skeptical about this product.

Then you insult or belittle the posters that posted about their experience with the HECS. And your surprised when their reply gets personal?

.......or maybe your not surprised and this is the reply you were hoping/trolling for?

It came in today. Read the documentation and found: "Used in conjunction with good camo and scent control, and assuming you keep noise and movement minimal, HECS can make a significant difference to your hunting success by allowing you to get closer to game." Well, all that makes sense. Thinking about it, I have no idea whether my electrical signal has ever spooked anything. But, I'll give it a fair test and see what I think.

There is a cheaper alternative. Sunglasses optional.



(Lighten up boys, just making a funny. )

Nogalus. With 22,000 + posts I must ask have you used all of them to show just how special you are?

LMAO!!!!

Delete: maybe my joke I had here is not politically correct. Even though it was on me.

Now that's funny!

If it works like they say why don't they make pop up blinds with this material?

LOL, so if you do the stuff that a really good hunter does, the suit will work? This begs the question as to how really good hunters manage to do what they do without one of these suits.

You realize that says less than nothing, right? It actually comes closer to saying it doesn't work than it does by pointing out you have to do all the other stuff, and then it CAN (not WILL) make a difference. Maybe. Which also means it also can NOT make a difference.

That is all straight up flim-flam con language.

I hope you enjoy how the animals act different while wearing this suit. only those that have tried and used the product can only truthfully critique the product. do not listen to the so called know it all's.

The best of luck to you. I don't think you will regret it.

OK; tried it this weekend. Sat about 25 yards from a feeder. I was behind a fork in a couple of trees. 3 young, a couple of 2 year olds and a baby, bucks came in and ate. At first they were nervous because, I assume, it was about 150 yds from the house and 2 pickups were there. I had the wind in my favor. They settled down and started eating; obviously not knowing I was there. I shot a spike with the XBOW.

Did the HECS work? Would the situation be the same if I wasn't wearing it? I don't know. I'll have to try some more to get some more experiences. Had they left, I would have said that it didn't work. I'll try some more and report back. So far, I know that one instance doesn't mean a whole lot but I am kinda encouraged.

Thanks for the report Dave.

I know of a guy that swears by it also, I don't know. I do use scent lok, but I buy it when it's on sale or discounted. I mean I have to wear camo so why not scent lok? I'm a big believer in playing the wind and always hunt with the wind in my favor.

Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy wear Hecs!

My dad and I bought it before an elk hunt 5 years ago. Wore it the whole week and never once saw any difference. It doesn't make it into my gear bag anymore - sits on the shelf. That's been my experience.

Gotta drink the koolaid, first, man.