annealers?

The most common one's will be the AMP annealer, Annealezz, and the Giraurd. If you don't want to spend the dough on those, a $30 propane torch works well also.

The most common one's will be the AMP annealer, Annealezz, and the Giraurd. If you don't want to spend the dough on those, a $30 propane torch works well also.

But buy a Giraud trimmer before anything else. It is by far one of the best expenditures ever for reloading.

I would screw my brass up so bad with just a torch..i need a system that would take the dumb out of it. lol

My only regret was not buying it sooner.

My G trimmer is a good purchase but I use my A&D scale w/ auto trickler and AMP annealer a TON more than I do the trimmer.

You don’t need to worry yourselves with screwing up brass and don’t buy into the Templaiq deal. Shut the lights off, put the heat to it and just as the case mouth starts to turn colors pull it out of the flame. That will be just about perfect....you don’t want to turn it red. You can’t see it with lights on but as soon as you turn the lights off you can see the color change to an orange’ish color.

Don’t be scared...I started with a drill with a socket and a torch counting...one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand, etc

Worst story I have is 500 pieces of brand nee Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass I had partial FL sized. Trimmed it all in on one Saturday at the fire station. So 250 minutes (4.16 hours)

You only gotta do that ONCE to become a believer in "a better way," huh?

You don’t need to worry yourselves with screwing up brass and don’t buy into the Templaiq deal. Shut the lights off, put the heat to it and just as the case mouth starts to turn colors pull it out of the flame. That will be just about perfect....you don’t want to turn it red. You can’t see it with lights on but as soon as you turn the lights off you can see the color change to an orange’ish color.

So either brass is properly annealed nearly instantly when either a) the case mouths start to turn colors or b) when the brass reaches 750 degrees F.

Which is it?

You do NOT know what the temperature of your brass is in the flame by looking at the color, but you DO know what's going on by properly using Tempilaq. You don't have to use it on every case, though. You may or may not see the same "orange'ish color" when annealing cases of different sizes. Use Tempilaq, and be sure.

Both. Same result either way. Various metal reliably discolors at the same temperature as it is heated, just like tempilaq reliably melts at the same temperature. In good light the brass will darken and get a purplish/blue tint and in the dark you will see it start to glow. It is the same principle that is used to temper steel. An example would be making a cold chisel. The steel is heated to a straw color and cooled. Works every time. If you don't have the confidence and decisiveness to trust your eyes use the tempilaq but it is not necessary.

I can *just about* agree with that, but I think these descriptions are just a little too vague and subjective. Just how dark does the room have to be, for instance? I always have found myself second guessing these descriptions of color changes also...I have perfect color acuity and I've seen where people call yellow "orange," call orange "red, call red "orange," and so on.

I occasionally anneal brass for other folks, and I set the annealer up using Tempilaq EVERY time. I do the same for myself.

The more I read in this reloading forum the more I think I might be getting into reloading instead of into shooting more! I never even knew I might need an annealer before a couple of weeks ago!

Are their companies set up to do this with high end/better devices?

This just seems to be something that would be easy to outsource unless you do a really high volume of rifle shooting