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Bushing dies really needed?

Posted By: Buzzsaw

Bushing dies really needed? - 10/28/17 06:05 PM

seems like these are more trouble than their worth.

do you like them?
Posted By: jeffbird

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/28/17 06:09 PM

Sold the ones I had and do not miss them.

But, they can be necessary for cases that are neck turned, which is another thing in my rearview mirror.

Forster FL sizing dies produce less runout for me with careful set-up.

The basic Forster full length sizing die is my first choice for a sizing die as their expander produces less runout than the Redding FL dies, but Redding is good too.

Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/28/17 06:45 PM

thanks Jeff!!!
Posted By: jeffbird

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/28/17 06:57 PM

You're welcome.
Posted By: dee

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/28/17 09:08 PM

I like them but they aren't a necessity.
Posted By: RiverRider

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/28/17 09:29 PM

Lee collet dies are the way to go, IMO. I've never used any other neck die, but I've seen demonstrations that convinced me that the collet die is better. I've been using them a few years myself, and I wouldn't be without them.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/28/17 09:53 PM

Yes, yes bushing does are really needed.

That is all.
Posted By: ChadTRG42

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/28/17 11:32 PM

Bushing dies certainly have their place. But most shooters who I know that have used them, had problems with the cases. Used correctly, they are very good. 98% of shooters can use a standard $30 full length die set and make very good, match grade ammo.
Posted By: Judd

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/29/17 01:56 AM

I'm in the yes camp.
Posted By: Sneaky

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/29/17 02:35 AM

I wouldn’t say that they’re needed, but I sure like them.
Posted By: TackDriver

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/29/17 04:09 AM

I have started using full sizing dies more now.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/29/17 01:37 PM

Originally Posted By: TackDriver
I have started using full sizing dies more now.


There's bushing dies that are also full length, which is all I use. When buying them, they are called "full length bushing die".
Posted By: RedSnake

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/29/17 09:43 PM

Redding Full Length Type S Bushing Dies
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/29/17 10:41 PM

Originally Posted By: RedSnake
Redding Full Length Type S Bushing Dies


Yup.

RCBS and Hornady make good-uns too.
Posted By: Judd

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/29/17 11:36 PM

Whidden for the win...Redding a close second.
Posted By: TackDriver

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/30/17 12:03 AM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: TackDriver
I have started using full sizing dies more now.


There's bushing dies that are also full length, which is all I use. When buying them, they are called "full length bushing die".


Yep, my mistake, its full length bushing dies I am using more now. Type S
Posted By: Mickey Moose

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 10/30/17 01:19 AM

Posted By: spg

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/09/17 11:06 PM

Yes FL bushing dies are necessary for me, I turn the necks on my casings which you only have to do once. Once I've turned the necks I know 100% all case necks will be the same then, FL size -.002. You can still get good results with quality brass and quality dies. I use Whidden dies and Lapua brass, depends if your as OCD as I am, Norma and Nosler make good brass also.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/10/17 02:05 AM

Originally Posted By: spg
Yes FL bushing dies are necessary for me, I turn the necks on my casings which you only have to do once. Once I've turned the necks I know 100% all case necks will be the same then, FL size -.002. You can still get good results with quality brass and quality dies. I use Whidden dies and Lapua brass, depends if your as OCD as I am, Norma and Nosler make good brass also.


This wasn't about FL dies, this was about bushing dies.

You can write, so it's safe to assume you can read.
Posted By: nyalubwe

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/10/17 02:17 AM

Not needed.
Posted By: spg

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/10/17 04:10 AM

Sorry Fireman, your information trumps mine
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/10/17 01:31 PM

In my opinion, the first step in having an accurate rifle is to buy an accurate rifle. Bushing dies are not needed, though they can help with accuracy if used properly, part of which is turning necks. Since I hate turning necks, I quit using the ones I have and have gone back to standard FL sizing dies and using them to size the cases for a proper chamber fit. And I use only Norma and Lapua brass now, and some Nosler.
Posted By: Busheler

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 05:49 PM

Lee sucks. Norma/Nosler brass has always sucked and still does. Hint.

Bushings are GREAT,only if/when you are driving brass that is consistent. That means Lapooey or Alpha.

Losing the expander ball,is one of THE Great Joys in life.

Hint............
Posted By: spg

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 06:30 PM

I've got great results with Norma / Nosler brass.
Posted By: Busheler

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 06:36 PM

Lotsa folks,"think" lotsa things.

Most of which is rather hilarious.............
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: spg
I've got great results with Norma / Nosler brass.


Yup.

So have I, and so had Chad.
Posted By: Busheler

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 06:43 PM

Grab some Alpha and get back to me.

Toldjaso.

Hint..............
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 08:16 PM

I do believe that I recognize our new friend busheler from another forum. Not good.
Posted By: Busheler

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 08:17 PM

Facts are very often unsettling,to them who "know" and "do" the least.

Pardon my being afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess.

Hint..............
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 08:24 PM

Did they finally run you off, “busheler”? This is a nice friendly forum, so please mind your manners.
Posted By: Busheler

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 08:27 PM

I rather enjoy your Whine...mightcha' need some Cheese too?

Only you,can prevent YOU,from saying something stupid.

Hint...........
Posted By: Mickey Moose

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 10:25 PM

I've had no problems with Nosler brass.
Posted By: Busheler

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 10:37 PM

As compared to what and how do you extrapolate your findings. In what platforms/chamberings and please cite their particulars?

Do tell...it will be funny.

Hint..............
Posted By: Sneaky

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 10:43 PM

What’s with all the hinting?!
Posted By: Busheler

Re: Bushing dies really needed? - 11/11/17 10:44 PM

Some folks can't take a hint.

Hint............
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