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How many of you are stocking up supplies?

Posted By: Txhillbilly

How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 02:32 PM

I learned several decades ago to get stocked up with reloading supplies with our governments ways during election cycles. It seems to always drive up prices,and get harder to find powder,primers,and bullets in stock.
I recently bought another 48 lbs of powder, and 12k primers to add to my reloading supplies.
With the way this years election is playing out, it's better to be prepared.
Posted By: ChadTRG42

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 02:41 PM

I try to keep enough inventory to have a cushion of supplies to rely on during the high demand times. It's a balance for me to either spend money on inventory you won't reap the benefits of until much later, or save the funds to have working capital. The worst is buying during the high demand times when prices go up and you ship 1 or 2 items in and pay extra for shipping and/or hazmat, and my prices have to go up. I try to avoid that. But, if Hillary does win the election, you WILL see another run on AR-15's, magazine's, ammo, powder and primers, for sure. That's just part of it. Happens every time a Dem wins.
Posted By: Bbear

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 03:14 PM

Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
I try to keep enough inventory to have a cushion of supplies to rely on during the high demand times. It's a balance for me to either spend money on inventory you won't reap the benefits of until much later, or save the funds to have working capital. The worst is buying during the high demand times when prices go up and you ship 1 or 2 items in and pay extra for shipping and/or hazmat, and my prices have to go up. I try to avoid that. But, if Hillary does win the election, you WILL see another run on AR-15's, magazine's, ammo, powder and primers, for sure. That's just part of it. Happens every time a Dem wins.


^^^^^
This

I have a good supply of the bullets, primers, powder and cases I need for what I have. Minimum 8 lbs of powder etc. I re-started on reloading right before the panic. Not going through that again.
Posted By: tth_40

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 03:47 PM

Been doing it for years. Like others said, it's a balance.

It's nice to be able to sit back and relax knowing your inventory is adequate while others panic when they don't prepare.
Posted By: RiverRider

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 04:15 PM

I started years ago, but a gun swap here and there, then new and better powders coming out lately kinda takes the joy out of looking at the inventory.
Posted By: kmon11

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 05:36 PM

Have almost burned the primers I bought after the Clinton/Brady created shortage in the 90s. After that time have had enough reloading stuff to keep me shooting when the other crunches hit. Intend to keep it that way.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 06:40 PM

I shoot a bunch.

I never stop buying components. That is, until there is a run on them, then I stop.
Posted By: BassCat'99

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 06:45 PM

I took stock the other day of what I have on hand, 70+lbs powder, 6k 223 fmj, 500 308 and about the same in 9mm and 45acp but I'm woefully lite on primers.
Posted By: jeffbird

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 08:12 PM

If you live in a city or town, check your local fire code on the amount of powder that may be stored. Many limit it to 50 pounds max on one premise.

FJG, can you help with relevant fire code requirements and limitations, if any, that we should know? Last time I researched it, there were none on a statewide level, none at the county level, which left it to local ordinances. Is that correct?
Posted By: Txhillbilly

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 08:21 PM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
I shoot a bunch.

I never stop buying components. That is, until there is a run on them, then I stop.


I know what you mean, I shoot a bunch also, and always get nervous when I get down to the last 8 pound jug of any powder I shoot.
I also know a lot of guy's that procrastinate, and then start crying when something happens and they don't have the supplies that they need.
Posted By: Judd

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 09:05 PM

Not good for you all to be posting what you have. As I read it the ATF is very clear on this:

Up to 20 lbs of powder can be openly stored in original containers.
Up to 50 lbs of powder can be stored in an appropriate powder magazine.
You cannot legally store more than 50 lbs of powder in a residence.

I don't like to keep a whole lot on hand but I do try to keep enough on hand to get through 2 shooting seasons without needing to purchase more. That way I could shoot 2 years if all supplies dried up.

Federal primers are what is killing me at this point...they've been non-existent for a very long time.
Posted By: jeffbird

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 10:09 PM

Judd,
could you link to that reg please?

Here is a search engine for primers and other components.

It shows F210M's in stock at Powder Valley. Best hurry. Hope it helps.

http://gunbot.net/reloading/
Posted By: Big Fitz

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 10:15 PM

If Bernie wins, I think it only right that you guys with such supplies share and give me half. Please PM me your addresses and I'll come by to pick up my supplies. banana clap
Posted By: Stratgolfer

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/18/16 10:50 PM

Fitz for the win.....
Posted By: tenyearsgone

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Txhillbilly
I learned several decades ago to get stocked up with reloading supplies with our governments ways during election cycles. It seems to always drive up prices,and get harder to find powder,primers,and bullets in stock.
I recently bought another 48 lbs of powder, and 12k primers to add to my reloading supplies.
With the way this years election is playing out, it's better to be prepared.


Posts like this are what fuels the fire.
Posted By: tenyearsgone

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 12:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Judd
Not good for you all to be posting what you have. As I read it the ATF is very clear on this:

Up to 20 lbs of powder can be openly stored in original containers.
Up to 50 lbs of powder can be stored in an appropriate powder magazine.
You cannot legally store more than 50 lbs of powder in a residence.

I don't like to keep a whole lot on hand but I do try to keep enough on hand to get through 2 shooting seasons without needing to purchase more. That way I could shoot 2 years if all supplies dried up.

Federal primers are what is killing me at this point...they've been non-existent for a very long time.


https://www.atf.gov/explosives/qa/smokel...losives-storage

Smokeless powder is exempt from explosive regs. It's not considered to be an explosive like black powder.

Those container regs are suggestions by one of the alphabet agencies.


ETA: Found it here. It's just suggested guidelines from a fire prevention association. The only laws you'll break are any by your local authority.

http://www.saami.org/specifications_and_...less_Powder.pdf


Like I usually say when someone states falsehoods; we have enough enemies as it is so don't be our own worst one.
Posted By: Simple Searcher

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 12:23 AM

I currently own more ammo than I have ever shot in my life. I am good.
Posted By: Txhillbilly

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 12:41 AM

Originally Posted By: tenyearsgone
Originally Posted By: Txhillbilly
I learned several decades ago to get stocked up with reloading supplies with our governments ways during election cycles. It seems to always drive up prices,and get harder to find powder,primers,and bullets in stock.
I recently bought another 48 lbs of powder, and 12k primers to add to my reloading supplies.
With the way this years election is playing out, it's better to be prepared.


Posts like this are what fuels the fire.


And just what fire might that be?
Believe me,The Fed's know everything there is to know about me,and have for many years. I'm not one that wears a tin foil hat,I've hauled/delivered so much stuff to and from Department of Defense installations over the years they probably know what color of underwear I have on right now.

Too bad we can't still buy kegs of powder,or I'd probably have a 20ft container full of it setting on my property. 8 lb jugs don't last very long!
Posted By: tenyearsgone

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 01:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Txhillbilly
Originally Posted By: tenyearsgone
Originally Posted By: Txhillbilly
I learned several decades ago to get stocked up with reloading supplies with our governments ways during election cycles. It seems to always drive up prices,and get harder to find powder,primers,and bullets in stock.
I recently bought another 48 lbs of powder, and 12k primers to add to my reloading supplies.
With the way this years election is playing out, it's better to be prepared.


Posts like this are what fuels the fire.


And just what fire might that be?
Believe me,The Fed's know everything there is to know about me,and have for many years. I'm not one that wears a tin foil hat,I've hauled/delivered so much stuff to and from Department of Defense installations over the years they probably know what color of underwear I have on right now.

Too bad we can't still buy kegs of powder,or I'd probably have a 20ft container full of it setting on my property. 8 lb jugs don't last very long!


I'm referring to those who read various online posts and freak out at mere speculation, snow balling into a panic that doesn't necessarily need to happen.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 01:24 AM

It's never been brought up in my department.

Smokeless powder is a flammable solid, and if you ever buy a box containing two 8 pounders or 10 one pounders you will see the DOT classification labeling it as such. It is safer to store than gasoline or a twenty pound propane cylinder, and the little camp stove/ lantern one pound cylinders. Those have caused more drama than any gun powder ever has at any structure fire I've been in.

Primers are DOT classified as an explosive.

Loaded ammunition has popped inside structure fires, and veterans don't really worry about it. Without a barrel for it to build pressure, it's an expensive fire cracker.

I store my Haz-Mat inside a four foot tall steel filing cabinet. It is not fool proof, but if it were to light off, it's inside a steel box. I do need another filing cabinet, though.
Posted By: tenyearsgone

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 02:23 AM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
It's never been brought up in my department.

Smokeless powder is a flammable solid, and if you ever buy a box containing two 8 pounders or 10 one pounders you will see the DOT classification labeling it as such. It is safer to store than gasoline or a twenty pound propane cylinder, and the little camp stove/ lantern one pound cylinders. Those have caused more drama than any gun powder ever has at any structure fire I've been in.

Primers are DOT classified as an explosive.

Loaded ammunition has popped inside structure fires, and veterans don't really worry about it. Without a barrel for it to build pressure, it's an expensive fire cracker.

I store my Haz-Mat inside a four foot tall steel filing cabinet. It is not fool proof, but if it were to light off, it's inside a steel box. I do need another filing cabinet, though.


There's a video SAAMI did a few years ago where they tested all the different ways ammo and powder could ignite. Ammo that went off barely dented cardboard they had set up.
Posted By: texashunter900

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 04:58 AM

I have been stocking up for the last couple of months. It is a slow process on a budget but I am much better off when the shortage strikes again.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 10:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Big Fitz
If Bernie wins, I think it only right that you guys with such supplies share and give me half. Please PM me your addresses and I'll come by to pick up my supplies.


hammer

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
I store my Haz-Mat inside a four foot tall steel filing cabinet. It is not fool proof, but if it were to light off, it's inside a steel box. I do need another filing cabinet, though.


clap
Posted By: bobsumner

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: tenyearsgone
Originally Posted By: Txhillbilly
I learned several decades ago to get stocked up with reloading supplies with our governments ways during election cycles. It seems to always drive up prices,and get harder to find powder,primers,and bullets in stock.
I recently bought another 48 lbs of powder, and 12k primers to add to my reloading supplies.
With the way this years election is playing out, it's better to be prepared.


Posts like this are what fuels the fire.



Posts like this display the reality and planning.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/19/16 09:30 PM

still got more pistol ammo than I can shoot from when YOBama got elected first time.

always filling in here or there.

got enough .223 components to last forever

hunting calibers more than enough

I wont get caught short again
Posted By: J.G.

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/20/16 01:50 AM

Originally Posted By: bobsumner

Posts like this display the reality and planning.


100% agree.

Victory follows preparation.
Posted By: jeffbird

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/20/16 02:11 AM

Originally Posted By: tenyearsgone
Originally Posted By: Txhillbilly
I learned several decades ago to get stocked up with reloading supplies with our governments ways during election cycles. It seems to always drive up prices,and get harder to find powder,primers,and bullets in stock.
I recently bought another 48 lbs of powder, and 12k primers to add to my reloading supplies.
With the way this years election is playing out, it's better to be prepared.


Posts like this are what fuels the fire.



Here is what fuels the fire: http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Gun_Control.htm



Rein in idea that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime
As Hillary Clinton mulls running for president in 2016, she has been careful to shy away from broad, sweeping policy declarations. But not when she delivered harsh criticism of gun culture in America and denounced the idea that "anybody can have a gun, anywhere, at any time." Clinton didn't dispute Americans' right to own guns. But she said access to guns in the U.S. had grown "way out of balance."

"We've got to rein in what has become an almost article of faith that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime," she said. "And I don't believe that is in the best interest of the vast majority of people."

Citing a number of shootings that arose from minor arguments over loud music or texting, she drew a comparison: "That's what happens in the countries I've visited where there is no rule of law and no self-control." She added: "That is something that we cannot just let go without paying attention."
Source: Wall Street Journal, "Anywhere, Anytime Gun Culture" , May 6, 2014

2000: advocate for national gun registry; 2008: backed off
Gun rights groups have long considered Mrs. Clinton their foe. Her 2000 Senate campaign centered on a push to keep guns off the streets, and she was a forceful advocate of creating a national gun registry. But eight years later, as she faced off against then-Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic primary, she positioned herself as more conservative than him on gun control. She backed off the proposal for a national registry and publicly recounted how her father had taught her how to shoot as a little girl- a story that prompted Obama to ask if she was seeking Annie Oakley comparisons. Gun control groups criticized her change in tune [back to strongly supporting gun control] as hypocritical and politically motivated.

Her position on gun control puts her at odds with the staunchly pro-gun GOP, and the push for gun control laws at the federal level has been historically unsuccessful. As president, Bill Clinton sought to tighten gun laws but was unable to achieve lasting effects.
Source: Wall Street Journal, "Anywhere, Anytime Gun Culture" , May 6, 2014

Rein in idea that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime
As Hillary Clinton mulls running for president in 2016, she has been careful to shy away from broad, sweeping policy declarations. But not when she delivered harsh criticism of gun culture in America and denounced the idea that "anybody can have a gun, anywhere, at any time." Clinton didn't dispute Americans' right to own guns. But she said access to guns in the U.S. had grown "way out of balance."

"We've got to rein in what has become an almost article of faith that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime," she said. "And I don't believe that is in the best interest of the vast majority of people."

Citing a number of shootings that arose from minor arguments over loud music or texting, she drew a comparison: "That's what happens in the countries I've visited where there is no rule of law and no self-control." She added: "That is something that we cannot just let go without paying attention."
Source: Wall Street Journal, "Anywhere, Anytime Gun Culture" , May 6, 2014

2000: advocate for national gun registry; 2008: backed off
Gun rights groups have long considered Mrs. Clinton their foe. Her 2000 Senate campaign centered on a push to keep guns off the streets, and she was a forceful advocate of creating a national gun registry. But eight years later, as she faced off against then-Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic primary, she positioned herself as more conservative than him on gun control. She backed off the proposal for a national registry and publicly recounted how her father had taught her how to shoot as a little girl--a story that prompted Obama to ask if she was seeking Annie Oakley comparisons. Gun control groups criticized her change in tune [back to strongly supporting gun control] as hypocritical and politically motivated.

Her position on gun control puts her at odds with the staunchly pro-gun GOP, and the push for gun control laws at the federal level has been historically unsuccessful. As president, Bill Clinton sought to tighten gun laws but was unable to achieve lasting effects.
Source: Wall Street Journal, "Anywhere, Anytime Gun Culture" , May 6, 2014

Balance lawful gun ownership & keeping guns from criminals
Q: Both you and Sen. Obama, in the past, have supported strong gun control measures. But now when I listen to you on the campaign, I hear you emphasizing that you believe in an individual’s right to bear arms. Both of you were strong advocates for licensing of guns. Both of you were strong advocates for the registration of guns. Why don’t you emphasize that now?

CLINTON: I respect the Second Amendment. I respect the rights of lawful gun owners to own guns, to use their guns, but I also believe that most lawful gun owners whom I have spoken with for many years across our country also want to be sure that we keep those guns out of the wrong hands. And as president, I will work to try to bridge this divide, which I think has been polarizing and, frankly, doesn’t reflect the common sense of the American people. We will strike the right balance to protect the constitutional right but to give people the feeling & the reality that they will be protected from guns in the wrong hands.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary , Apr 16, 2008

Give local police access to federal gun tracking info
I will be a good partner, for cities like Philadelphia, as president. Because I will bring back the so-called COPS program, where we had 100,000 police on the street, which really helped drive down the crime rate and also helped create better community relations.

I will also work to reinstate the assault weapons ban. We had it during the 1990s. It really was an aid to our police officers, who are now once again, because it has lapsed--the Republicans will not reinstate it--are being outgunned on our streets by these military-style weapons.

I will also work to make sure that police departments get access to the federal information that will enable them to track illegal guns, because the numbers are astounding. Probably 80% of the guns used in gun crimes got there illegally. And under the Republicans, that information was kept from local law enforcement.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary , Apr 16, 2008

Let states & cities determine local gun laws
Q: Do you support the DC handgun ban?

A: I want to give local communities the authority over determining how to keep their citizens safe. This case you’re referring to is before the Supreme Court.

Q: But what do you support?

A: I support sensible regulation that is consistent with the constitutional right to own and bear arms.

Q: Is the DC ban consistent with that right?

A: I think a total ban, with no exceptions under any circumstances, might be found by the court not to be. But DC or anybody else [should be able to] come up with sensible regulations to protect their people.

Q: But do you still favor licensing and registration of handguns?

A: What I favor is what works in NY. We have one set of rules in NYC and a totally different set of rules in the rest of the state. What might work in NYC is certainly not going to work in Montana. So, for the federal government to be having any kind of blanket rules that they’re going to try to impose, I think doesn’t make sense.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary , Apr 16, 2008

Against illegal guns, crack down on illegal gun dealers
I am against illegal guns, and illegal guns are the cause of so much death and injury in our country. I also am a political realist and I understand that the political winds are very powerful against doing enough to try to get guns off the street, get them out of the hands of young people. I don’t want the federal government preempting states and cities like New York that have very specific problems. We need to have a registry that really works with good information about people who are felons, people who have been committed to mental institutions. We need to make sure that that information is in a timely manner, both collected and presented. We do need to crack down on illegal gun dealers. This is something that I would like to see more of. We need to enforce the laws that we have on the books. I would also work to reinstate the assault weapons ban. We now have, once again, police deaths going up around the country, and in large measure because bad guys now have assault weapons again.
Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Las Vegas , Jan 15, 2008

Backed off a national licensing registration plan on guns
I believe in the Second Amendment. People have a right to bear arms. But I also believe that we can common-sensically approach this, and backed off a national licensing registration plan.
Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Las Vegas , Jan 15, 2008

Get assault weapons & guns off the street
Q: How would you address gun violence that continues to be the #1 cause of death among African-American men?

A: I think it’s important to remember that the crime rate was driven down, & gun violence was driven down in the 1990s because of a combination of policies, like 100,000 police on the street and getting assault weapons off the street, and because of a growing economy. 22 million new jobs gave people who were hopeless a better chance for a future. So I want to get back to what works. This administration has tried to kill the 100,000 police. You’ve got mayors whose police force is outgunned by the criminals and the gang-bangers. Assault weapons are back on the street. We’ve got to go and do what works again. In addition to having policies that will get guns off the street, we do have to give young men particularly a better chance of a future that includes educational & economic opportunities & second chances when they get caught up in the criminal justice system.
Source: 2007 NAACP Presidential Primary Forum , Jul 12, 2007

Background check system could prevent Virginia Tech massacre
Q: Did any role that federal government plays fail those students at Virginia Tech?

A: Yes. You know, I remember very well when I accompanied Bill to Columbine after that massacre and met with the family members of those who had been killed and talked with the students, and feeling that we had to do more to try to keep guns out of the hands of the criminal and of the mentally unstable. And during the Clinton administration, that was a goal--not to, in any way, violate people’s Second Amendment rights, but to try to limit access to people who should not have guns. Unfortunately, we saw the tragedy unfold at Virginia Tech. We now know that the background check system didn’t work, because certainly this shooter, as he’s called, had been involuntarily committed as a threat to himself and others. And, yet, he could walk in and buy a gun.
Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC , Apr 26, 2007

FactCheck: VA Tech shooter not declared a danger to others
Hillary Clinton slipped up in her description of the Virginia Tech killings, overstating what a Virginia court had found about the shooter’s mental state in 2005. Clinton said the shooter “had been involuntarily committed as a threat to himself & others. And, yet, he could walk in and buy a gun.”

That’s only half true. It’s correct that Seung-hui Cho had a court-documented history of mental illness that should have precluded his purchase of a firearm. And he was indeed found to present “an imminent danger to himself as a result of mental illness“ in a ruling dated December 14, 2005. But the Judge did not check a box that would have declared Cho ”an imminent danger to others.“ Moreover, the judge declined to involuntarily commit Cho and sent him to outpatient counseling. Clinton’s confusion on this might stem from bad reporting by some news outlets that said Cho was found to be a danger to himself and others.
Source: FactCheck on 2007 South Carolina Democratic debate , Apr 26, 2007

Congress’ failure at Littleton response inspired Senate run
A month after the Columbine shootings, Bill & I went to Littleton Colorado to visit with the families of victims & survivors. The Columbine tragedy was not the first, nor the last, episode involving gun violence at an American high school. But it ignited a call for more federal action to keep guns out of the hands of the violent, troubled and young--a lethal combination. Bill and I announced a proposal to raise the legal age of handgun ownership to 21, and limit purchases of handguns to one per month.

Source: Living History, by Hillary Rodham Clinton, p. 503-4 , Nov 1, 2003

Keep guns away from people who shouldn’t have them
We need to stand firm on behalf of sensible gun control legislation. We have to enact laws that will keep guns out of the hand of children and criminals and mentally unbalanced persons. Congress should have acted before our children started going back to school. I realize the NRA is a formidable political group; but I believe the American people are ready to come together as a nation and do whatever it takes to keep guns away from people who shouldn’t have them.
Source: www.hillary2000.org, “Gun Safety” , Sep 9, 2000

Limit access to weapons; look for early warning signs
We have to make sure that our schools are safe. Our schools need more help from parents and from communities, and we also need more social workers and counselors who are trained to see the early warning signs. No school security system or metal detector can keep out the culture of violence that dominates the lives of so many of our children. We have to address issues of culture, and we have to ensure that young people do not have easy access to weapons; not only firearms but bomb making material.
Source: www.hillary2000.org, “Safe Schools” , Sep 9, 2000

License and register all handgun sales
Hillary Rodham Clinton offered her support for a legislative proposal to license hand guns. The legislation, sponsored by Sen. Charles Schumer, would require anyone who wants to purchase a gun to obtain a state-issued photo gun license. “I stand in support of this common sense legislation to license everyone who wishes to purchase a gun,” Clinton said. “I also believe that every new handgun sale or transfer should be registered in a national registry, such as Chuck is proposing.”
Source: CNN.com , Jun 2, 2000

Tough gun control keeps guns out of wrong hands
I think it does once again urge us to think hard about what we can do to make sure that we keep guns out of the hands of children and criminals and mentally unbalanced people. I hope we will come together as a nation and do whatever it takes to keep guns away from people who have no business with them.
Source: Press Release , Jul 31, 1999

Gun control protects our children
We will not make progress on a sensible gun control agenda unless the entire American public gets behind it. It is really important for each of you [kids] to make sure you stay away from guns. If you have guns in your home, tell your parents to keep them away from you and your friends and your little brothers and sisters.
Source: Forum at South Side Middle School in Nassau County , Jul 15, 1999

Don’t water down sensible gun control legislation
We have to do everything possible to keep guns out of the hands of children, and we need to stand firm on behalf of the sensible gun control legislation that passed the Senate and then was watered down in the House. It does not make sense for us at this point in our history to turn our backs on the reality that there are too many guns and too many children have access to those guns-and we have to act to prevent that.
Source: Remarks to NEA in Orlando, Florida , Jul 5, 1999

Lock up guns; store ammo separately
If you own a gun... make sure it’s locked up and stored without the ammunition. In fact, make it stored where the ammunition is stored separately. We’ve made some progress in the last several years with the Brady Bill and some of the bans on assault weapons, but we have a lot of work to do.
Source: ABC’s “Good Morning America” , Jun 4, 1999

Ban kids’ unsupervised access to guns
Q: What actions can students take to help gun control further? A: Young people, especially teenagers, [should pledge] to not give any child unsupervised access to a firearm; not to go into homes, or let your younger siblings go into homes where you know guns are and are not safely stored and taken care of. You guys are going to a party, make sure there are no guns around. If you own a gun or you know people who do, make sure it’s locked up and stored without the ammunition.
Source: ABC’s “Good Morning America” , Jun 4, 1999

Get weapons off the streets; zero tolerance for weapons
The first step is to take weapons off the streets and to put more police on them. The Brady Bill, which my husband signed into law in 1995, imposes a 5-day waiting period for gun purchases, time enough for authorities to check out a buyer’s record and for the buyer to cool down about any conflict he might have intended the gun to resolve. Since it was enacted, more than 40,000 people with criminal records have been prevented from buying guns. The 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act banned 19 types of military-style assault weapons whose only purpose is to kill people.

As part of a “zero tolerance” policy for weapons, drugs, and other threats to the safety of teachers and students, the President signed an executive order decreeing that any student who comes to school with a gun will be expelled and punished as a condition of federal aid.
Source: It Takes A Village, by Hillary Clinton, p.126 , Sep 25, 1996

Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers.
A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others. Voting YES would:

Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or drug-trafficking crime
Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect
Call for the dismissal of all qualified civil liability actions pending on the date of enactment by the court in which the action was brought
Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition, and sets a minimum prison term of 15 years for violations
Require all licensed importers, manufacturers and dealers who engage in the transfer of handguns to provide secure gun storage or safety devices

Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005

Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence.
Vote to pass a bill that would block certain civil lawsuits against manufacturers, distributors, dealers and importers of firearms and ammunition, mainly those lawsuits aimed at making them liable for gun violence. In this bill, trade groups would also be protected The bill would call for the dismissal of pending lawsuits against the gun industry. The exception would be lawsuits regarding a defect in a weapon or ammunition. It also would provide a 10-year reauthorization of the assault weapons ban which is set to expire in September 2004. The bill would increase the penalties for gun-related violent or drug trafficking crimes which have not resulted in death, to a minimum of 15 years imprisonment. The bill calls for criminal background checks on all firearm transactions at gun shows where at least 75 guns are sold. Exemptions would be made available for dealers selling guns from their homes as well as members-only gun swaps and meets carried out by nonprofit hunting clubs.
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S.1805/H.R.1036 ; vote number 2004-30 on Mar 2, 2004

Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology.
Clinton adopted the manifesto, "A New Agenda for the New Decade":

Make America the “Safest Big Country” in the World
After climbing relentlessly for three decades, crime rates started to fall in the 1990s. Nonetheless, the public remains deeply concerned about the prevalence of gun violence, especially among juveniles, and Americans still avoid public spaces like downtown retail areas, parks, and even sports facilities.

We need to keep policing “smart” and community-friendly, prohibiting unjust and counterproductive tactics such as racial profiling; focus on preventing as well as punishing crime; pay attention to what happens to inmates and their families after sentencing; use mandatory testing and treatment to break the cycle of drugs and crime; and enforce and strengthen laws against unsafe or illegal guns. Moreover, we need a renewed commitment to equal justice for all, and we must reject a false choice between justice and safety.

Technology can help in many areas: giving police more information on criminal suspects so they do not rely on slipshod, random stop-and-search methods; allowing lower-cost supervision of people on probation or parole; and making it possible to disable and/or trace guns used by unauthorized persons.

Above all, we need to remember that public safety is the ultimate goal of crime policy. Until Americans feel safe enough to walk their neighborhood streets, enjoy public spaces, and send their children to school without fear of violence, we have not achieved public safety.

Goals for 2010
Reduce violent crime rates another 25 percent.
Cut the rate of repeat offenses in half.
Develop and require “smart gun” technology to prevent use of firearms by unauthorized persons and implement sensible gun control measures.
Ban racial profiling by police but encourage criminal targeting through better information on actual suspects.
Require in-prison and post-prison drug testing and treatment of all drug offenders.


Posted By: tenyearsgone

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/20/16 04:24 AM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: bobsumner

Posts like this display the reality and planning.


100% agree.

Victory follows preparation.


I have enough components to last for ages. I just don't make speculations that get the snow ball rolling. It'd probably take me months to use up all my powder, brass, and bullets if I loaded all day so you can stop with the sniping.

All it take takes is for some wound tight person to read posts like the OP and before you know it there's panic buying going on because some other wound tight person reads it etc..

Us gun owners really are our own worst enemy.
Posted By: spg

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/20/16 01:37 PM

I'm starting to run low on Federal 215 primers, and there hard to find available.
Posted By: Txhillbilly

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/20/16 04:39 PM

My original post wasn't meant to cause an uproar,or "PANIC" state. A lot of guy's that reload/shoot get busy with life,and don't keep track of their reloading supplies until they are running low or out of things they need. With the political situation that may come in the 2016 election cycle,it would be a smart idea for everyone to stock up on the items that may become hard to find,or the retailers begin their price gouging on.
I've been reloading since the late 1970's,and I have seen supplies get hard to find several times over the years.

It never hurts to be prepared. It's better to have it and not need it,than to need it and not have it!
Posted By: J.G.

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/20/16 04:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Txhillbilly
My original post wasn't meant to cause an uproar,or "PANIC" state. A lot of guy's that reload/shoot get busy with life,and don't keep track of their reloading supplies until they are running low or out of things they need. With the political situation that may come in the 2016 election cycle,it would be a smart idea for everyone to stock up on the items that may become hard to find,or the retailers begin their price gouging on.
I've been reloading since the late 1970's,and I have seen supplies get hard to find several times over the years.

It never hurts to be prepared. It's better to have it and not need it,than to need it and not have it!


Very sensible.
Posted By: tenyearsgone

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/20/16 11:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Txhillbilly
My original post wasn't meant to cause an uproar,or "PANIC" state. A lot of guy's that reload/shoot get busy with life,and don't keep track of their reloading supplies until they are running low or out of things they need. With the political situation that may come in the 2016 election cycle,it would be a smart idea for everyone to stock up on the items that may become hard to find,or the retailers begin their price gouging on.
I've been reloading since the late 1970's,and I have seen supplies get hard to find several times over the years.

It never hurts to be prepared. It's better to have it and not need it,than to need it and not have it!


I didn't think you were.

The problem is there are folks out there who freak out over nothing and it compounds from there. They make leaps that aren't there.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/21/16 12:32 AM

And nothing anyone here does, or doesn't do, will curtail said behavior with the bulk of the American population.
Posted By: Marc K

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/21/16 12:47 AM

And posts here will not cause, nor stop that leap. People will panic. Always have - always will.

Same with food and other supplies when a storm is coming. People who plan ahead all year, aren't in line with the panic crowd. Slowly, but methodically buying at a good price before the storm is just common sense. If nothing else, it's a hedge against inflation!

Edit: FiremanJG types faster than I do :-)




Posted By: OkieDokie

Re: How many of you are stocking up supplies? - 03/21/16 12:53 AM

^^^^^^^^. The only person I can control is myself and sometimes have trouble with that.
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
And nothing anyone here does, or doesn't do, will curtail said behavior with the bulk of the American population.
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