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Anybody know what the difference is between "Shurshot Heavy Dove" and plain old "Heavy Dove"???

Posted By: lharrell79

Anybody know what the difference is between "Shurshot Heavy Dove" and plain old "Heavy Dove"??? - 12/03/15 09:20 PM

I order three cases of R12HD8 Remington Shurshot Heavy Dove from budsgunshop. These are the red and green heavy dove boxes. They sent me three cases of RHD128 Remington Heavy Dove. These are Green and Tan boxes.

Heres where it gets tricky. The cases they sent me are marked RHD128 on the outside. I opened one, and the boxes are green and tan, and say R12HD8 on the bottom. I like the red and green Shurshots, and don't really want to switch. However, if they're the same load, then who cares.

Anybody know if these are the same thing, or should I send them back?

Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Anybody know what the difference is between "Shurshot Heavy Dove" and plain old "Heavy Dove"??? - 12/03/15 10:13 PM

I don't think there's any difference; according to Remington's website both shells have the same powder charge, shot charge/weight, and velocity.
Posted By: lharrell79

Re: Anybody know what the difference is between "Shurshot Heavy Dove" and plain old "Heavy Dove"??? - 12/04/15 12:13 AM

Yeah, the specs all look the same. However, I've seen shells with the same specs that don't shoot anything alike. I bought some of those walmart cheapo federal 100 packs. The specs were identical to there top gun loads. The shells even looked the same. However, when I opened them up, they had different shot, and different powder inside. The walmart cheapos couldn't hit anything, and they were very inconsistent.

I'm just trying to make sure these green and tan remingtons aren't their cheapo version.
Posted By: Big Fitz

Re: Anybody know what the difference is between "Shurshot Heavy Dove" and plain old "Heavy Dove"??? - 12/04/15 01:22 AM

My understanding is the "Shurshot Heavy Dove" is the Academy variant of packaging...ammo is the same.
Posted By: syncerus

Re: Anybody know what the difference is between "Shurshot Heavy Dove" and plain old "Heavy Dove"??? - 12/04/15 01:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Big Fitz
My understanding is the "Shurshot Heavy Dove" is the Academy variant of packaging...ammo is the same.


That makes a lot of sense. If I were the buyer for Academy, I'd want my product packaging to be unique so that it would make head-to-head price shopping a little harder and make my version appear a bit special.
Posted By: lharrell79

Re: Anybody know what the difference is between "Shurshot Heavy Dove" and plain old "Heavy Dove"??? - 12/04/15 03:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Big Fitz
My understanding is the "Shurshot Heavy Dove" is the Academy variant of packaging...ammo is the same.


Interesting, I've never heard that. The last Shurshots I shot were purchased at Academy. When I look online though, it seems that are a lot of places that sell the Shurshots, not just Academy. I emailed Buds and Remington, so hopefully they can give a straight answer in the next few days.
Posted By: syncerus

Re: Anybody know what the difference is between "Shurshot Heavy Dove" and plain old "Heavy Dove"??? - 12/04/15 03:50 AM

http://www.remington.com/products/ammuni...heavy-dove.aspx

OVERVIEW:

For the broadest selection in game-specific Upland shotshells, Remington Upland Loads are the perfect choice. The hunter's choice for a wide variety of game-bird applications, available from 12-gauge to .410 bore, with shot size options ranging from BB's all the way down to 9s - suitable for everything from quail to farm predators. Long considered to be some of the best-balanced, best-patterning upland field loads available, our family of shotshells offer great selections for upland bird hunting.

A sure bet for all kinds of upland game, our ShurShot loads have earned the reputation as one of the best-balanced, best-patterning upland field loads available. And for good reason. These shells combine an ideal balance of powder charge and shot payload to deliver effective velocities and near-perfect patterns with mild recoil for high-volume upland hunting situations.

Academy Sports + Outdoors is the exclusive seller of this shotshell line.
Posted By: lharrell79

Re: Anybody know what the difference is between "Shurshot Heavy Dove" and plain old "Heavy Dove"??? - 12/08/15 07:41 PM

syncerus, looks like you were right. If anyone is interested, here is the response I got from Remington customer service:

"Thank you for contacting Remington. ShurShot heavy dove loads are exclusive to Academy Sports. The loads are the same.

Thank you and best regards,
Remington Customer Services"

Also, budsgunshop, the business I purchased them from never responded to my inquiry. I guess once they have your money, you're no longer of concern. Not so great customer service on their part.
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