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200 yd group

Posted By: vanguard

200 yd group - 06/21/15 12:49 PM

weatherby vanguard thats been rebarreled with a factory take off 22-250 i got off gun broker.
55gr sierra spitzer and some varget. 1.08 five shot group at 200 yds, of course i always have the dreaded flyer that opens it up, 4 went .47. the dreaded flyer has haunted me since i started reloading. arrrrrrgggggg.....


Posted By: Big Fitz

Re: 200 yd group - 06/21/15 01:02 PM

Nice shooting. Horizontal strings may mean something that I'm sure the knowledgeable folks can help with. Bedding?
Posted By: DStroud

Re: 200 yd group - 06/21/15 01:16 PM

Usually means the wind is blowing. It only takes a little breeze to move a 55gr bullet.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: 200 yd group - 06/21/15 01:55 PM

Originally Posted By: DStroud
Usually means the wind is blowing. It only takes a little breeze to move a 55gr bullet.


Yup.

The flier may have been bad trigger control on that one shot. Dry fire three before shooting a group.
Posted By: jbd76266

Re: 200 yd group - 06/21/15 02:10 PM

Wind, trigger pull, bedding, barrel (and heat), technique...many reasons for a flyer. Is it always the same round (ie, the 5th shot of the group)?

Still some good shooting!
Posted By: Beaubien

Re: 200 yd group - 06/21/15 03:17 PM

Even with that errant shot you are .5 MOA. Pretty good in my book.

Seems like I always have a flyer. Most of the time it is me. Just have to keep practicing.
Posted By: vanguard

Re: 200 yd group - 06/21/15 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: jbd76266
Wind, trigger pull, bedding, barrel (and heat), technique...many reasons for a flyer. Is it always the same round (ie, the 5th shot of the group)?

Still some good shooting!


nah its never the same in this case it was my third shot. trigger is 14 ounces, gun has not been bedded, maybe its time to think about that.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: 200 yd group - 06/22/15 01:34 AM

Shoot another group, if it stays that good. I'd call it GREAT!
Posted By: RiverRider

Re: 200 yd group - 06/22/15 01:56 AM

You know what they say about something that's not broke...
Posted By: ChadTRG42

Re: 200 yd group - 06/22/15 05:03 PM

Trigger control (on the flier), wind, or accuracy node can cause the stringing. My bet is the wind. Like stated, it doesn't take much to move a 55 grain at 200. When shooting the group, you will need to shoot on the same wind condition. On the accuracy node, groups will generally string right before an accuracy node. If you play with a load about .2 grains before and after the load you shot, this can answer the question if it's the accuracy node or not. But 1" at 200 from a factory gun is pretty good.
Posted By: cabosandinh

Re: 200 yd group - 06/22/15 06:14 PM

it could be anything

next time this happens, separate the 5 cases,
mark the case that did the flying

reload those 5
see if that same case causes flyer again,
if so, you've got an out of round case.
Fix it if you can : turn necks, trim ....
or just put it in a pile of 'plinker' cases
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