Shilen barrel- what to build!!?

So, I have a barrel certificate from the fine folks at Shilen Barrels. I am 100% unsure of what I want to get or do with it. I have a hankering from something totally different. A standard caliber, or an easy to make caliber, nothing major wildcat. Any ideas? I'm thinking something along the lines of my 308 Win Rem 700 parts build. But I don't know!

We've talked about this. You need a switch barrel for your parts build .308, and the Shilen needs to be a 1:7.7 .22-250.

Don't get one they chambered, have Tony chamber and thread.

Fast twist 22-250 or 220 Swift to shoot those cool .224 heavies. Tikka action and take that 90 gr VLD or 95 gr SMK on out past 1000 yards.

Oh, I forgot about that!!! That sounds good!

7mm SAUM

22" - 24" 1:10" 308, with a 3 position M70 type safety. Pretty handy.

.416 Rigby

i'll go with the quick, heavy, .224 something with factory brass cuz I want one

22 creed is fun and just about perfect for tejas!

30-06 and make it shoot little groups at long ranges and make these 30-06 haters shut up.

How about a .30-06 necked down to 7mm? Oh, wait!

.338 Norma Mag. Heavy barrel. Big brake. Go ahead and make it left handed. Anything but a Remington action.


Oh wait that’s for me

It might be interesting with optimal twist for those long bullets you can get these days.

I have a 22 dasher that I built for 90's that I am LOVING...it's the most fun gun to shoot that I have...runs those 90's over 3k fps and burns less than 35 grains of H4350 ....at 600y it's a full MOA flatter than my 6 dasher running 105 hybrid at almost the exact same speed.

Having said all of that...if you don't have a 6br or 6br improved you are missing out in life

I have a 220 swift and I'd take it over a 22-250 any day and twice on Sunday's.

If going bigger 22 go Creedmoor or 22-243 both will have a little more in the tank than the 22-250 and brass is no problem. 90gr 22cal bullet at 3200fps is fun

Alright, either 22-250 or 22 Creedmoor. But leaning towards the 22-250 for less powder capacity and pushing an 80 grain about 3000 fps. I can put my 223 can on it, also, and that would give an extra suppressor to use other than one my 223.

22 Creed is just too much fun!

7mm08

I'm in love with my 22" 1-8' 220 swift shilen barreled rifle. 80gr nosler Customs and H4831 is ridiculous. I shot a group and thought I butchered the group even though es was 9, it was probably best group of my life. I will do an ai version after this one is toast not for speed but brass flowing. It's now my prs rifle, haven't even put a round through the 6 Creedmoor that was built 2 months ago.

yall quit

Hey Buzz, I'll bet shilen' got barrels ready to ship. Time's awastin!

what action length for these hot azzed .224's?

I need to talk to Tony about actions

been online shopping stocks

Chad you going sporter or heavy, w/ bottom DBM?

no wildcat for me either. I would have to build this '"on the cheap"

Short for 99% of them.

Buzz, the 22-250 shares the same bolt face as a 308 family of cases (243, 6.5 Creedmoor, etc), and is a short action round. You can load the long heavy bullets out long and the round still fit and feed in a normal length magazine. I'll probably put this on my Surgeon rifle as another switch barrel. I'm going with a #4, #5, or light palma contour barrel. I am thinking about 20"-21" long, plus my 223 suppressor.

22 creedmoor! Awesome round, a little unique and so much fun!

6mm prc

On second thought it's a free barrel. Now is not the time to be practical. I'd make an Allen mag of some kind.

Or 22-250 AI.........Bout the same as .22 creed.....

Chad is anti-Ackley Improved.

Too much work! (for me, that is). I want to work up a load and be done. An AI is fine, but in this fast speed 22 cal, 3000-3100 fps is plenty fast.

Save yourself the stress of this big decision and just give it to me.

will the .22 Creed or Valkyrie work in bolt gun?

We've told you before it is silly to put a Valkyrie in a bolt gun. It was made to sqeeze more speed out of an AR platform . Brass is hard to come by right now, and it cannot hang with a .22-250 or 22 Creedmoor which do work in a short action, bolt action.

You're hung up on this Valkyrie because it is new, not because of it's ballistics, as compared to the several, higher case capacity, 22 options that will fit in Chad's action with no bolt swap. Which by the way, the Valkyrie does not use the same bolt face as a .223, or a .308, Creedmoor, ect, it is between them in size. Same bolt face as a 6.8 SPC and 6.5 Grendel.

Chad's switch barrel rifle is a .308 Win, so a Creedmoor or .22-250 will run on that action and that bolt, it would just be a barrel swap.

thanks Daddy, may I go to my room now?

A fast twist 22-250 sounds fun. A 300 Norma is what I would build. Your point of less powder capacity is out the window though....

Sure. Pay attention to the answer when you ask a question. Especially a question you've already asked three times prior.

squirrel???? He's retired and bored, can you tell?

As much as I give him crap because my OCD and his ADD don't work together real well. I will say he gets major props for shooting this past weekend in the Tropical Storm at Fossil Point.

Chad,

You should build a 224 Valkyrie. It would be so cool!

A 22-250 with an 80 grain bullet with Varget will use about 30-32 grains of powder and run about 3100 fps. A 22 Creedmoor uses about 43-47 grains of powder with the same 80 grain bullet, but only yields about 3400 fps. It's marginally faster than a 22-250, and uses much less powder. Less powder means less barrel heat, less throat wear, and more shooting in a quicker time frame. I'm thinking of a prairie dog town also on this one.

So, the 22-250 has 45% less powder, and only giving up 9% of the velocity (about 300 fps) of the 22 CM. I'd say that's a pretty good trade off.

Yep, there is a point where overbore just isn't worth it. I prefer efficient cartridges. I was joking about the 224 Valkyrie because I know it's not quick conversion. I do think it has a future in a bolt action because it's efficient.

I think that makes sense when you're thinking PDs. I'd just make sure to tote a .223 along also to give the .22-250 a little more cooling time.

Yessir. Standard procedure on a prairie dog town, IME. Also a good idea to take a .22 lr. Some of the idiot pups can get extremely close.

Buzz has thick enough skin that he knows I'm not saying anything out of pure mean-ness.

yes I do. I just like to keep our Fireman on his toes.

Thanks Judd, I should have stuck to the shotgun and left the rifles to you guys. But I love rifle shooting more

Yeah, for your stated purpose I was in agreement with the 22-250. I was referring to a 300 Norma and the 90 plus grains of powder it burns. That is the long range hammer I would be putting the free barrel on if I was holding the voucher.

just build a .22-250 so a fire fighter can claim it was his idea, I still say the .224 Valkyrie is the nut.

You're not worth a reply.

but I gots one

LOL!!!

Yea but it doesn't sound as cool.........

2 different types of powder are used for your comparison. Very similar to 243 and 105's ran with 4350 or h1000 different burn rate and burn temp yielded. Not sure if it's worthwhile or not though.

There are a lot of varying thought processes on barrel burners. Some say it's pure speed/pressure related. Some say it's bore to powder column ratio related. Other's will say it's heat burn temp related. I feel that it's a bit of all along with the gamble on barrel steel quality.

Something of note on barrel burners. 6mm (243, 6 creed, 6 xc and 6x47L) seem to typically get a bad rap of barrel life of typically around 1k-1500rds running 4350ish burn rate powders with speeds in the 2950-3200fps. I've talked with david tubb a bit and he claims 2k or more on his xc but when one evaluates his data and ammo his running 4831 or slower powder at the 3050 area. Does the powder choice equate to the extended life idk. I personally have a 6 creed with over 1800rds that's seen a variety of powder burn rates but always ran in the 2840-2950 speed area with 105's.

Me...life is short, a 22 QT that can drive heavies at a good clip should be fun, and effective. Odds are you have your 6mm and larger bases covered. No flies on BRs, had MANY built, never disappointed. But other than barrel life, the heavy fast 22s are very intriguing. If you want a higher bore life round, I get that. Ruger makes a 22-250 8t...IIRC in the American, so that's lower cost barrel wear for those so inclined.

The 22-250 or CM would be my pick if you go 22.

22x47

90's 3300ish.