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.223 bolt face

Posted By: BassCat'99

.223 bolt face - 03/16/18 09:46 PM

what caliber would you built off a Rem. 700, .223 bolt face?
Posted By: Brother in-law

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/16/18 10:19 PM

223
Posted By: kmon11

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 12:35 AM

223, 300 BO, 6mm,6.5mm or 7mm TCU, 204 Ruger, 17 Remington, 221 Fireball, 17 Fireball, 222, 222 Magnum and 6mmX45 are a few that come to mind
Posted By: TFF Caribou

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 12:42 AM

I’d probably build a .223. I like to shoot as cheaply as possible.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 01:04 AM

.223 Ackley Improved, 1:7.7 twist.

Lapua brass, CCI 450, IMR-8208, 80 gr ELD-M

Soon as my smith finishes chambering, I will have it. I bought a .223 action specifically for this build.
Posted By: MClark

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 01:05 AM

I recently built a 25/45 Sharps on a Remington with a Lawson thumb hole stock.
Haven't shot it yet.
Brass with correct head stamp is available for a reasonable price or just neck up 223.

M
Posted By: BassCat'99

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 01:12 AM

Sorry, should have said "other then .223" cuz I have three but didn't think about JG and the AI. That would be nice with a heavy bullet and tight twist.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 01:21 AM

Originally Posted By: BassCat'99
Sorry, should have said "other then .223" cuz I have three but didn't think about JG and the AI. That would be nice with a heavy bullet and tight twist.


How bout that 80 gr over 3000 fps, on fires brass? Just sayin...
Posted By: BassCat'99

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 01:23 AM

ya got me thinkin! darn ya
Posted By: Cleric

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 01:55 AM

224v looks interesting
Posted By: J.G.

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 01:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Cleric
224v looks interesting


Compare brass price.

Sure the A.I. has to be fire formed. Or, hydro formed if a guy is inclined so.

He would need a new bolt, as well.
Posted By: Cleric

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 06:12 PM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: Cleric
224v looks interesting


Compare brass price.

Sure the A.I. has to be fire formed. Or, hydro formed if a guy is inclined so.

He would need a new bolt, as well.


Tried to find the bolt face but since there is not many out there, didn’t see anything clearly. I just saw that the parent case is bigger than 223
Posted By: snake oil

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 06:31 PM

Would a .22 Creedmoor work with that bolt face?
Posted By: J.G.

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 07:11 PM

Originally Posted By: snake oil
Would a .22 Creedmoor work with that bolt face?


No. Same bolt face as .243, 6.5 Creedmoor, 260 Rem, 7mm-08, .308, ect.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 07:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: Cleric
224v looks interesting


Compare brass price.

Sure the A.I. has to be fire formed. Or, hydro formed if a guy is inclined so.

He would need a new bolt, as well.


Tried to find the bolt face but since there is not many out there, didn’t see anything clearly. I just saw that the parent case is bigger than 223


Same bolt face size as a 6.8 SPC. I looked that up for a friend yesterday that cannot find .224 Valkyrie brass.
Posted By: Cleric

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 07:19 PM

As I read (not sure if true) the saami spec is due to be released/approved/certified and brass is not being sold yet. Ammo can be but it’s pretty limited
Posted By: J.G.

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/17/18 08:06 PM

Makes sense why he cant find any brass. I did a quick look of bolt face diameter and length of 6.8 SPC, and compared it to what SAAMI showed for .224 Valkyrie. I told him to look, and see if he can run the 6.8 through a sizer die. I didn't have time to dig into all the details myself.

He contacted me because Federal ammo was blowing primers and chewing up the case head in his girlfriend's rifle, asking why it was doing that.
Posted By: Big Fitz

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/18/18 03:35 PM

I will have a .223 Ackley Improved with a tight twist one of these days. I'm just waiting for a specific individual on here to form lots of Lapua brass for me.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/18/18 03:47 PM

Surely you are talking about Buzz. He is the one that changes guns like underwear. I actually put thought into what I want, build it, use it, and keep it. grin
Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/18/18 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
.223 Ackley Improved, 1:7.7 twist.

Lapua brass, CCI 450, IMR-8208, 80 gr ELD-M

Soon as my smith finishes chambering, I will have it. I bought a .223 action specifically for this build.


This is my next build. I already have the action and stock. All I need is a good hailstorm and I'll buy the rest.
Posted By: Smokey Bear

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/18/18 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
.223 Ackley Improved, 1:7.7 twist.

Lapua brass, CCI 450, IMR-8208, 80 gr ELD-M

Soon as my smith finishes chambering, I will have it. I bought a .223 action specifically for this build.


This is my next build. I already have the action and stock. All I need is a good hailstorm and I'll buy the rest.


Yeah, you can add me to that list. I like the possibilities of what you could do with that.
Posted By: Big Fitz

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/18/18 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Surely you are talking about Buzz. He is the one that changes guns like underwear. I actually put thought into what I want, build it, use it, and keep it. grin


I don't want your wrong-handed rifle, just formed brass so I don't have to. bolt
Posted By: snake oil

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/19/18 12:08 PM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: snake oil
Would a .22 Creedmoor work with that bolt face?


No. Same bolt face as .243, 6.5 Creedmoor, 260 Rem, 7mm-08, .308, ect.


You know more than I ever will but I thought a .22 creed was a 6.5 necked down to a .22?
Posted By: J.G.

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/19/18 12:34 PM

Originally Posted By: snake oil
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: snake oil
Would a .22 Creedmoor work with that bolt face?


No. Same bolt face as .243, 6.5 Creedmoor, 260 Rem, 7mm-08, .308, ect.


You know more than I ever will but I thought a .22 creed was a 6.5 necked down to a .22?


You thought correctly, and they all use a larger bolt face than a .223 Remington.
Posted By: snake oil

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/19/18 04:39 PM

Gotcha..........
Posted By: chital_shikari

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/19/18 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: BassCat'99
Sorry, should have said "other then .223" cuz I have three but didn't think about JG and the AI. That would be nice with a heavy bullet and tight twist.


How bout that 80 gr over 3000 fps, on fires brass? Just sayin...
Question because I'm ignorant, couldn't you load up a .22-250 that hot and save time by bypassing the forming of AI brass?
Posted By: J.G.

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/19/18 11:37 PM

Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: BassCat'99
Sorry, should have said "other then .223" cuz I have three but didn't think about JG and the AI. That would be nice with a heavy bullet and tight twist.


How bout that 80 gr over 3000 fps, on fires brass? Just sayin...
Question because I'm ignorant, couldn't you load up a .22-250 that hot and save time by bypassing the forming of AI brass?


Yes.

And again, that involves a new bolt. Same case head size as .243, .260, 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, .308
Posted By: chital_shikari

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/20/18 12:24 AM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: BassCat'99
Sorry, should have said "other then .223" cuz I have three but didn't think about JG and the AI. That would be nice with a heavy bullet and tight twist.


How bout that 80 gr over 3000 fps, on fires brass? Just sayin...
Question because I'm ignorant, couldn't you load up a .22-250 that hot and save time by bypassing the forming of AI brass?


Yes.

And again, that involves a new bolt. Same case head size as .243, .260, 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, .308
Very neat. Thanks for the info.
You run a .22-250 of some sort in addition to this new .223 AI, correct?
Posted By: BassCat'99

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/20/18 12:30 AM

before Jason is done I bet all his rifles will be AI
Posted By: J.G.

Re: .223 bolt face - 03/20/18 12:33 AM

Originally Posted By: BassCat'99
before Jason is done I bet all his rifles will be AI


Look at what a .260 A.I. can do...

peep
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