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gonna take a bite of humble pie
Posted By: txtrophy85
gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/09/18 09:10 PM
Fireman, Chad, an all the others who told me to build my own rifle on my thread awhile back, well, I took the long road around.
I'm still waiting on one other bid on a rifle but my new plan is to buy a LH remmy 700 sps, have it restocked, cerakoted, brake installed, etc. for much much less than a custom build on the same action.
Question....this rifle comes with a 26" barrel. should I have it cut to 24", recrowned with a brake installed? or put up with the .300 win mag unbraked and see how it shoots?
anything else you guys recommend? anything besides a Tikka?
Posted By: bronco71
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/09/18 09:20 PM
I have a 300 WM without a brake and a braked 30-378 Weatherby Mag and prefer to shoot the bigger one with the brake.....except for the ammo cost
Posted By: jeffbird
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/09/18 09:29 PM
Cut to 24" and add a brake.
As for what are the other options besides Tikkas that is an almost endless list of possibilities, many discussed in the other thread.
If I remember the other thread, you like Weatherby rifles. How about having their custom shop build what you want?
Posted By: TFF Caribou
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/09/18 10:41 PM
Tx, I talked to horizon at DSC. their current turn around time on most builds is only 4-6 weeks if I remember right. Got to look at their in house Iota stocks, and was pretty impressed. I’d give Derrick a call.
Posted By: HWY_MAN
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/09/18 10:51 PM
Fireman, Chad, an all the others who told me to build my own rifle on my thread awhile back, well, I took the long road around.
I'm still waiting on one other bid on a rifle but my new plan is to buy a LH remmy 700 sps, have it restocked, cerakoted, brake installed, etc. for much much less than a custom build on the same action.
Question....this rifle comes with a 26" barrel. should I have it cut to 24", recrowned with a brake installed? or put up with the .300 win mag unbraked and see how it shoots?
anything else you guys recommend? anything besides a Tikka?
I think you've made a good choice. I personally don't like a brake but that's up to you. I shoot the 300 Weatherby all the time and see no need for a brake plus the increase in dB is not something I enjoy.
Posted By: mikei
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/09/18 10:52 PM
Fireman, Chad, an all the others who told me to build my own rifle on my thread awhile back, well, I took the long road around.
I'm still waiting on one other bid on a rifle but my new plan is to buy a LH remmy 700 sps, have it restocked, cerakoted, brake installed, etc. for much much less than a custom build on the same action.
Question....this rifle comes with a 26" barrel. should I have it cut to 24", recrowned with a brake installed? or put up with the .300 win mag unbraked and see how it shoots?
anything else you guys recommend? anything besides a Tikka?
TxTrophy, I've found that over the many years I've been eating humble pie, if I wash it down with a bit Crow (liquefied in the food processor, of course) it goes down a bit better. :_)
Posted By: J.G.
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/09/18 11:35 PM
(can I say "told ya so"?)...
7 Rem Mag, 300 Win Mag, ect, I've got a policy....
26" to an 11° crown AND add a brake. It aint no big deal to maneuver. Carried it deer hunting yesterday, not a problem at all. But I am rarely in a blind.
It'll shoot as good as the ammo you load for it will shoot. And, see the rifle Red Snake had built? I can give you that builders number. Not wanting to commit his time, but I bet you have a finished rifle in 5 weeks or less, after you send him the parts. He also builds all mine, and Chad's, and they are laser beams.
Posted By: Teal28
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/09/18 11:51 PM
Cut it and add the break. It’s not bad with out it but noticeable difference with it.
Pull break off and add thread protector when needed.
Posted By: postoak
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 12:06 AM
I'd rather you added a suppressor than a brake. Don't suppressors also function somewhat as a brake?
Posted By: Eyesofahunter
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 12:55 AM
I am with FJG on barrel length 26 inches, but for a hunting rifle I prefer no brake. You have a lot of powder to burn, and a longer tube will let you get the most out of it.
Posted By: Grizz
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 01:18 AM
I absolutely hate 26" barrels on hunting rifles, but with a magnum I think they serve a useful purpose so I would leave it. If it was a non magnum cartridge I would have it cut down before I ever loaded the first round. Muzzle brakes are personal preference, but I personally would not install a brake. I just don't think the reduction in recoil is enough to outweigh the extra noise and blast.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 01:19 AM
26” and a brake.
Posted By: J.G.
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 01:23 AM
No brake, rifle is loud, need hearing protection.
Brake, rifle is loud, need hearing protection, and you have half the recoil.
Why not use a brake? Just because of by-standers?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 01:29 AM
No brake, rifle is loud, need hearing protection.
Brake, rifle is loud, need hearing protection, and you have half the recoil.
Why not use a brake? Just because of by-standers?
All the more reason to use a brake. Clears out the bench.
Posted By: scottfromdallas
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 01:33 AM
No brake, rifle is loud, need hearing protection.
Brake, rifle is loud, need hearing protection, and you have half the recoil.
Why not use a brake? Just because of by-standers?
All the more reason to use a brake. Clears out the bench.
It does for sure. Last time I was out at the range I had a 308 with a Gen 2 Lil Bastard and the guy next to me huffed and puffed and moved to another spot.
Posted By: J.G.
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 01:43 AM
Guess I'm conditioned to it. Spotted for no telling how many braked rifles. Touch it off, and I won't even flinch looking through the spotting scope.
Posted By: Brother in-law
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 01:51 AM
Brake and cap
Brake for the range, cap for hunting
Max 24"
Posted By: TFF Caribou
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 02:16 AM
Brake and cap
Brake for the range, cap for hunting
Max 24"
Would there not be a PoI change removing the brake? Asking because I really don’t know. I’d think you were messing with barrel harmonics plus the gas being expelled differently.
Posted By: J.G.
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 02:35 AM
Brake and cap
Brake for the range, cap for hunting
Max 24"
Would there not be a PoI change removing the brake? Asking because I really don’t know. I’d think you were messing with barrel harmonics plus the gas being expelled differently.
If the barrel is thin enough, yes. Taking off the brake, and putting a thread protector on, can make a great load shoot like crap, as well as shift POI.
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 03:05 AM
If I remember the other thread, you like Weatherby rifles. How about having their custom shop build what you want?
that's the other bid i'm waiting on
a weatherby ultralight in .300 WM
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 03:29 AM
Like fireman I’m not adverse to brakes at all.
On light weight magnum calibers I like them because they reduce barrel jump and I can see where I hit
I’m torn on leaving the barrel at 26” because I believe in long barrels on magnums
Posted By: Eyesofahunter
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 03:43 AM
No brake, rifle is loud, need hearing protection.
Brake, rifle is loud, need hearing protection, and you have half the recoil.
Why not use a brake? Just because of by-standers?
For me a brake on a hunting rifle allows more opportunity for stuff to enter end of barrel. Adds length. Lastly just does not look right in my eye.
I made recommendation because if I recall purpose of rifle is for Western/Mountain hunting.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 03:49 AM
Allows more stuff in the barrel? There’s already a hole there, you know.
Posted By: Eyesofahunter
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 04:01 AM
Allows more stuff in the barrel? There’s already a hole there, you know.
Really?? Thanks for the post learned a lot.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 04:06 AM
Any time.
Posted By: DocHorton
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 06:27 AM
APR running a special right now on rifles.....if I needed another one I would go that route.
Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 12:39 PM
Brakes are for shooting rifles, not hunting rifles. If recoil is not an issue (a la won’t be shooting the rifle at the bench a lot, at competitions, at prairie dogs, etc.) there’s really no need to turn a rifle into a blaster and all that comes with that.
I’m no gun guru but I don’t think 26” is necessary to wring just about everything out of a .300 like it is on some rifles (a .264, for example). Compactness helps if you are carrying a rifle a lot (on your shoulder, on a pack, etc.)
Posted By: Cast
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/10/18 02:10 PM
Add a suppressor instead.
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/11/18 01:48 AM
this ordeal is making my head spin.
the sps when restocked and worked, brake added, etc. will be the same as a off the shelf Montana rifle and weigh just the same.
handled some kimbers today and while i'm not a Kimber fan, they are extremely light. wish they made a left handed gun, if they did the search would be over.
My only hope to getting a semblance of what i'm wanting (lightweight mountain gun) is a weatherby ultralight. If that fails i'm gonna have to do a extreme custom build, something like a Rifles INC.
Posted By: Brother in-law
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/11/18 02:47 AM
I got you at $2097 using premium parts in stock to include a McMillan edge and Proof barrel. Could actually make that cheaper using cheaper parts.
Posted By: J.G.
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/11/18 03:03 AM
Donor Rem 700 BDL $500
Barrel $350
Gunsmith chamber and thread $350
Gunsmith timed brake $100 (optional)
Gunsmith bedding $100
McMillan or Manners $550 using the hindged floor plate.
Brake $50 (Harrels)
Blast and cerakote $100 (optional)
Total: $1850-$2100
Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/11/18 03:05 AM
On Gunbroker. Never shot one. Heard good things. Just throwing it out there.
Posted By: DocHorton
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/11/18 03:48 AM
Donor Rem 700 BDL $500
Barrel $350
Gunsmith chamber and thread $350
Gunsmith timed brake $100 (optional)
Gunsmith bedding $100
McMillan or Manners $550 using the hindged floor plate.
Brake $50 (Harrels)
Blast and cerakote $100 (optional)
Total: $1850-$2100
Who does cerakote for a complete rifle for $100? I'd like their info please, best I have found is about $175.
Also, he can get a nice HS Precision, BC, or Greyboe for $250-350 and save a little money, just a thought.
The special that APR is running is a hell of a deal with a custom action....
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=676991
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/11/18 04:43 AM
Thanks for the input guys gonna look into every option
Posted By: Brother in-law
Re: gonna take a bite of humble pie - 01/11/18 02:12 PM
Donor Rem 700 BDL $500
Barrel $350
Gunsmith chamber and thread $350
Gunsmith timed brake $100 (optional)
Gunsmith bedding $100
McMillan or Manners $550 using the hindged floor plate.
Brake $50 (Harrels)
Blast and cerakote $100 (optional)
Total: $1850-$2100
Who does cerakote for a complete rifle for $100? I'd like their info please, best I have found is about $175.
Also, he can get a nice HS Precision, BC, or Greyboe for $250-350 and save a little money, just a thought.
The special that APR is running is a hell of a deal with a custom action....
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=676991 No leftys available on that deal.