Let's set a higher standard in the Firearms Trading Post

If you're selling a rifle you say is a custom build, or brag about how tight it shoots, show a group picture for evidence. 100+ yards.

As far as I'm concerned I would show a group pic on ANY rifle I was selling.

If you're a bad shooter, or bad eyes, there's nothing wrong with showing the best you can do, and saying it's the best you can do, and you think the rifle can do better.

Just my opinion.

if it shoots great I aint selling lol

I've sold a couple that shot great, and I believe I posted groups for both IIRC. I agree that I don't really enjoy seeing threads asking big $ for guns because of their accuracy without any evidence of it.

Aw shucks, all you gotta do is let em know it's a tack driver.

Next thing you know everyone will be shooting 25 yard groups claiming they are 100 or 200 yard groups.

LOL.....

That is one way of doing it.

I've got a Marlin 336 I'll sell ya. I won't post pictures of the group, but I'll guarantee it groups as well as my 12 guage at 100 yards.

I agree 100% and I'll even go a step further and say to take a quick video of current rifle condition and shooting a group.

Here is a great example: http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6850442#Post6850442

Note - I'm not sure that photos of groups or videos attribute to selling quicker but it sure does reduce the amount of tire kicker PMs and texts you get!

Agree 100% on the pics, JG, including calipers if possible. Unfortunately, as has been stated, there's no guarantee on the distance. P_102

Caveat emptor.

Posting targets would just another way for some here to attempt to show everyone how great they are, again. Seems some need their ego stroked every now and then.

Whatever floats someone's boat though.

I enjoy seeing pics of other's groups. And you can usually tell when someone's full of it, just by reading a few of their posts.

This is the internet...every gun shoots "one ragged hole".

Well said. This is a good place to buy, sell, and trade. Lets keep it that way!

For those concerned of short range groups claiming 100 yard groups, it's the world we live in, that doesn't possess integrity any longer.

However, 99% of the THF members I've dealt with have plenty of integrity.

This has nothing to do with someone's shooting skills. This has to do with the capability of a rifle for sale.

As usual, you go off on a tangent that doesn't have anything to do with the topic.

Be sure to add, "if I do my part" as a disclaimer.

Ah yes. I didn't do my part on my post.

I'm a mediocre shot and a mediocre reloader. I do better when there is hair on it.

Hell I've had a rifle or two I wouldn't trust at 50 yards to stay consistent. And when I sold it I was upfront with the buyer it could be an issue and adjusted the price accordingly. But if you claim it's something with no proof it's just blowing smoke in my mind.

I sold a semi-custom once, with a smoked barrel. I disclosed the barrel was done, and I was basically selling an action, bottom metal, and McMillan stock. I adjusted the price accordingly. The buyer wanted to see the groups it had made when the barrel was fresh because he was thinking of setting it back. I sent him pics, but said, I still know it needs a barrel. I don't know what he ever did with it.

There's gonna come a day, in the next several months, I will have a functioning rifle for sale. There will be the best groups I've been able to achieve with said rifle posted with the ad.

this!!!!

Im not accusing you of it, just using an example (i know you know better). The pictures you will get will be the best group they have ever shot, not what the rifle will shoot consistently. It maybe a 1 moa gun but they will post the only .5 moa group the gun ever shot.

Agreed, that is likely to happen with other folks. And it's probably not out of malice, just didn't know better.

I've got the benefit of being on a rifle range every week, so getting rounds down range is no big deal. Of course, that's not the case for everyone, and I get that.

If I ever sell a rifle, would three 3 shot groups for a Sporter barrel, and three 5 shot groups for a heavy barrel suffice?

We need to fix that.

If the accuracy is a reason to buy then I want a demonstration...

For example a decent ar15 should be a 1-1.5 moa gun max. Just because it did a .5 Moa group at one point doesn't mean anything

If I say I have a .5 Moa semi custom then I would want to see 1-3 groups fired lived to validate

And I agree with fireman be honest with what you are selling. If you rack rounds disclose, but if you don't disclose you don't. But you should know the performance expectations for guns before you buy it. Just because a gun has grouped bad doesn't mean it's bad. It means it doesn't like that bullet and or powder combo

Agreed. Plan on it once I get things sorted out with my Dad.

It would work for me for the most part. I could think of a few exceptions, but not worth getting into.

I'd trust a pic of any group posted, and i'd believe anything a fisherman told me and i've never known a politician to misinform their constituents.

On a few occasions I've met at a gun range as both a buyer and seller. Always glad I did and not opposed to it in the future. If you're dropping $$$$$ on a used gun or optic why not?