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Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards

Posted By: Aggieman775

Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 02:35 PM

Just curious how many of y'all that don't have target turrets on your scope sight in your rifles high at 100 yards? I sight mine in at 3 inches high at 100
Posted By: aggiehunter03

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 02:38 PM

3 inches seems like a lot but I used to do 1 inch high. I just zero them all at 100 now and adjust if I need to.
Posted By: Aggieman775

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 02:41 PM

When I aim in the shoulder I end up with a high shoulder shot and drop them
Posted By: redchevy

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 02:46 PM

Most of my shots on deer with our blind setups will be anywhere from 85-110 yards.

I know I'm a bad person because of it, but I take neck/head shots on occasion grin , especially on hogs. I sight my gun in on the bulls eye at 100 yards so I don't have to do any guessing.
If I'm going to be shooting far enough that I need to worry about drop I will just aim a little high. One of my guns has turrets so its always zeroed at 100.
Posted By: rifleman

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 02:47 PM

My 300yd zero puts me around 3" at 100, little higher at 200 (remember that part of it).
Posted By: Aggieman775

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 02:48 PM

That's why I sight mine in high so it takes all of the guess work out
Posted By: swmays

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
That's why I sight mine in high so it takes all of the guess work out
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Posted By: redchevy

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
That's why I sight mine in high so it takes all of the guess work out


Depends on the shooting situation. In mine it leaves guess work.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 02:53 PM

Sight in at 100, if you know your rifle and bullet ballistics good to go. Don't need turrents if sighted in properly except for long distances.
Posted By: Tactical Cowboy

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 03:20 PM

I sight mine in dead on at 200.
Posted By: Big Daddy K

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 03:32 PM

I trust my ummmm "feel" more than I do turrets and clicks.
Dead on at 100 ish. Sometimes 50 depending on where I get to zero.
That being said, most of my rifle shots are within bow range here in east Texas.
Posted By: Big Daddy K

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 03:32 PM

I trust my ummmm "feel" more than I do turrets and clicks.
Dead on at 100 ish. Sometimes 50 depending on where I get to zero.
That being said, most of my rifle shots are within bow range here in east Texas.
Posted By: 7x57

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 03:33 PM

http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_trajectory_table.htm
Posted By: LFD2037

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 03:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
That's why I sight mine in high so it takes all of the guess work out

Sounds like your way only ADDS guesswork!
Posted By: BigDad

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
I sight mine in dead on at 200.

+1

I like to sight mine dead on at 200 yds. If I don't have access to a 200 yd range and have to use a 100 yd range I site in 2" high at 100 yds. That will get me to 275 yds or so with no hold over if using a flat shooting caliber.
Posted By: Aggieman775

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
That's why I sight mine in high so it takes all of the guess work out

Sounds like your way only ADDS guesswork!

How you figure? I shoot a deer in the shoulder at 100 yards it ends up being a high shoulder shot and drops it in its tracks. If there is a situation I do have to shoot out to 250-300 yards I don't have to guess how high to aim I just aim dead on.
Posted By: LFD2037

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 03:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
That's why I sight mine in high so it takes all of the guess work out

Sounds like your way only ADDS guesswork!

How you figure? I shoot a deer in the shoulder at 100 yards it ends up being a high shoulder shot and drops it in its tracks. If there is a situation I do have to shoot out to 250-300 yards I don't have to guess how high to aim I just aim dead on.

What gun & ammo?
Posted By: Aggieman775

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 03:49 PM

Tikka .308 we hand load our bullets
Posted By: LFD2037

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 04:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
Tikka .308 we hand load our bullets

Depending on bbl length & .308 ammo, 3" high @ 100 could be as bad as up to 9" low @ 300yds. And that's if you can make -0- MOA shots. A 12" gap isn't "guesswork"? Your gun & your choice. I prefer to know where my bullet is going to hit, not where I think it's going to hit.

Now if you've shot @ 100, 150,200, 250, 300yds & know where it'll hit, that's different. up
Posted By: Aggieman775

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 04:46 PM

Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
Tikka .308 we hand load our bullets

Depending on bbl length & .308 ammo, 3" high @ 100 could be as bad as up to 9" low @ 300yds. And that's if you can make -0- MOA shots. A 12" gap isn't "guesswork"? Your gun & your choice. I prefer to know where my bullet is going to hit, not where I think it's going to hit.

Now if you've shot @ 100, 150,200, 250, 300yds & know where it'll hit, that's different. up


I have shot it at 300 so I do know where it's going to hit
Posted By: GLC

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 04:52 PM

Used to do 1" high at 100 yards. Since I have learned a little bit more about ballistics and longer range shooting, I site dead on at 100.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 04:54 PM

To each his own. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. He asked a question and can't take or UNDERSTANDS the answers. BS
Do what you want.
Posted By: postoak

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 05:04 PM

Basically, you are using a 3" maximum point blank range (MPBR) setting. We just had a lengthy discussion on the pros and cons of MPBR. It's a good choice if you are going somewhere where you have no idea what length shots you'll be taking. Although better still, IMO, is to zero at 100 and tape a drop table on the side of your stock for longer distances.
Posted By: Aggieman775

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 05:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
To each his own. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. He asked a question and can't take or UNDERSTANDS the answers. BS
Do what you want.


What do you mean by that? I asked a question out of curiosity. I know where my gun hits at these distances so what you just said is completely irrelevant. If I have shot the distance and know where my gun hits what is there to understand
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Posted By: ChadTRG42

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 05:09 PM

I have one question. If most animals are shot at 100 yards or less, why would you sight your rifle in at another distance, other 100 yards?

I know of and even shoot with guys that "sight their rifle in x.x iches high at 100 yards". Once they shoot their rifle, their rifle is NEVER x.x inches high. It's often times much higher than their planned x.x high, and can not hit crap beyond 150-200 yards. Why? They "think" the bullet is somewhere where it really isn't. Most of the shooters I know that use the x.x high at 100, do not fully understand precise bullet drop. They "plan" for a x.x high so they are on at 200, 250 or 300 yards. But they do not have a known zero or know the exact speed of the bullet they are shooting so the rifle is off further out. So what's the point? If you never have a precise zero, how can you be precise in your shooting. EVERYTHING stems from a properly zero'd rifle. If you want a 200 yard zero, then go shoot your rifle at 200 yards, and get it dialed in precisely at 200 yards. Not "close" or "about". And the data on your factory box of ammo is generally off, sometimes WAY off. I can't tell you how many shooters I know that I take to shoot at 200, 300+ yards, and it's an eye opener on what their true drop is, to what they "thought" it was. Know your rifle, know you ammo, and zero your freakin rifle!!!!
Posted By: ChadTRG42

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 05:12 PM

Same topic discussed here. I've never been a fan of intentionally zeroing a weapon where it's not zero'd or off target.

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6504157/1
Posted By: Aggieman775

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 05:13 PM

Like I said we handload our bullets and like I said before I have shot to 300 yards and it is on so what is the problem?
Posted By: postoak

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 05:14 PM

I don't see a problem. Keep on truckin'
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 05:37 PM

popcorn
Posted By: ChadTRG42

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 05:39 PM

In a nut shell, x.x high induces error and makes the "system" less precise. 100%. It boils down to what type of shooter are you. If you just want to be "close", then sight it in where you want to (or think you want to) x.x high. In the world of precision shooting, you must have a proper zero. This is the difference between just shooting, and shooting to be precise. I am a precise shooter (with every rifle I own), and I want to minimize as much error into my shooting as possible. You can not accomplish this unless you have a proper zero.
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 06:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
Like I said we handload our bullets and like I said before I have shot to 300 yards and it is on so what is the problem?


As I said in that other linked thread, there is no problem as long as you know what your bullet is doing at various distances regarding the MPBR. I've had 7mags zero'ed 3" high at 100 yds, shooting 160 partitions (lately accubonds), and verify hits at 100, 150,200,250,300, and 350 yds. It has worked well for me since 1971. It is really very simple, as you say Aggieman. I've killed/culled around 200 big game animals with this exact setup.
Posted By: ChadTRG42

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 06:17 PM

Here you go!!! MPBR Range day!
Posted By: Navasot

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 06:31 PM

1inch high at 100
Posted By: chalet

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 07:24 PM

I like mine dead on at 100 these days, that way if I want to shoot something in the neck, head, etc at feeder range I just aim and squeeze. I don't really shoot much past that but if I do it is generally shoulder shot. Dead center hold in the shoulder has nice margin and room for error. Rarely do I shoot past 200, If I do just hold a little higher toward the back line.
Posted By: bigjoe8565

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 07:46 PM

Dead on at 100 for all my rifles.
Posted By: LFD2037

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 08:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
Tikka .308 we hand load our bullets

Depending on bbl length & .308 ammo, 3" high @ 100 could be as bad as up to 9" low @ 300yds. And that's if you can make -0- MOA shots. A 12" gap isn't "guesswork"? Your gun & your choice. I prefer to know where my bullet is going to hit, not where I think it's going to hit.

Now if you've shot @ 100, 150,200, 250, 300yds & know where it'll hit, that's different. up


I have shot it at 300 so I do know where it's going to hit

up
How low was it @ 300?
Posted By: Sirrah243

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 08:45 PM

On my place I can shoot to 200 yds. Thats the furthets distance I have a straight line of sight. The feeder sits at 120 yds.
I sight my wifes 243 24" barrel shooting 95 gr SST hand loads an inch high at 100 yds and my 308 24" barrel shooting 150 gr SP 1 1/2 high at 100yds. Point of aim point of impact. We don't adjust for elevation, we hold dead on and we shoot deer behind he shoulder. The vitals on a braod side deer are roughly 12" or like I tell my wife, "The size of a basketball." Weather the bullet impacts 1 1/2 high or low of aim point it dosen't matter, it's still a kill shot. I don't have a 200 yd range in my area to sight in at so this is the method I use.
Posted By: Bigfoot

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/26/16 09:26 PM

When hunting the national forest I will rarely get a shot over 100 yards so I keep my AR dialed in at 50 yards and that seems to put me at 1.5 inches high at 100 yards.

On my bolt action rifle I just keep it dialed in at 100 since 200 yards is the longest shot I am comfortable with taking on anything except a pig.
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/27/16 12:06 AM

I sight em in at 200. With the calibers i shoot (2800 to 3000fps), they'll be down 7" at 300 and 20" at 400. Been doing it that way for decades. I hold over to about 300 and use the turret beyond that. Not saying it's the best way, but it works for me. Sometimes there just isn't much time to make the shot. And, to be honest, I've been doing it like that, successfully, for so long that I just can't see reason to change. And, that's for deer, pigs, and coyotes. Precision to the inch isn't needed. No target shooter would do it like I do. They love those turrets. And they might have starved to death back when turrets weren't an option. But I'd have given em some venison.
Posted By: scalebuster

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/27/16 12:08 AM

1.5" high @ 100.
Posted By: TFF Caribou

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/27/16 12:34 AM

Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
Tikka .308 we hand load our bullets

Depending on bbl length & .308 ammo, 3" high @ 100 could be as bad as up to 9" low @ 300yds. And that's if you can make -0- MOA shots. A 12" gap isn't "guesswork"? Your gun & your choice. I prefer to know where my bullet is going to hit, not where I think it's going to hit.

Now if you've shot @ 100, 150,200, 250, 300yds & know where it'll hit, that's different. up


I have shot it at 300 so I do know where it's going to hit

up
How low was it @ 300?


popcorn
Posted By: Tactical Cowboy

Re: Sighting in your rifle high at 100 yards - 10/27/16 01:12 AM

Originally Posted By: 603Country
I sight em in at 200. With the calibers i shoot (2800 to 3000fps), they'll be down 7" at 300 and 20" at 400. Been doing it that way for decades. I hold over to about 300 and use the turret beyond that. Not saying it's the best way, but it works for me. Sometimes there just isn't much time to make the shot. And, to be honest, I've been doing it like that, successfully, for so long that I just can't see reason to change. And, that's for deer, pigs, and coyotes. Precision to the inch isn't needed. No target shooter would do it like I do. They love those turrets. And they might have starved to death back when turrets weren't an option. But I'd have given em some venison.


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