Texas Hunting Forum

Scatter guns

Posted By: jhenderson

Scatter guns - 10/09/16 04:00 PM

Been looking for a new one and came across these at academy. Which is a better gun? I have my opinion but haven't owned or shot either.

Beretta a300 for $778 for camo
Benelli montefeltro for $799 for black

Or anything else around that price point worth considering.
Posted By: booradley

Re: Scatter guns - 10/09/16 04:23 PM

Don't think either is better than the other. One is gas operated and the other is inertia.
Posted By: Creedmoor

Re: Scatter guns - 10/09/16 04:33 PM

OMG .... here it goes again ..... hammer

Both are great guns. I prefer the Beretta because I have experience with it and it has proven itself for me. But there are a lot of Benelli fans out there that swear by them.

I prefer the gas operated gun, but that doesn't mean it is a better platform for everyone.

Best advice: Neither will likely cause you any serious operation issues. Pick the one that fits best when thrown to your shoulder. It should point instinctively and easily.
Posted By: syncerus

Re: Scatter guns - 10/09/16 04:33 PM

The inertia gun is probably easier to clean, the gas gun probably has less felt recoil. I'd say pick the one that fits you best.
Posted By: MS1454

Re: Scatter guns - 10/09/16 04:42 PM

I don't know how much it is but the winchester sx3? Always gets great reviews.
Posted By: jhenderson

Re: Scatter guns - 10/09/16 04:50 PM

Here's my concern on beretta. Had an older al390 silver mallard and it was unreliable. Would not cycle lighter loads consistently. Don't know if they fixed the issue with newer guns or not.
Posted By: syncerus

Re: Scatter guns - 10/09/16 05:09 PM

I have a 390 12 ga and a 391 20 ga and both are perfectly reliable with light loads; the problem may have been specific to that shotgun.
Posted By: TDK

Re: Scatter guns - 10/09/16 06:18 PM

Quote:
Here's my concern on beretta. Had an older al390 silver mallard and it was unreliable. Would not cycle lighter loads consistently. Don't know if they fixed the issue with newer guns or not.


I've mentioned that your issue was specific to your gun, and isn't representative of the brand as a whole. gas operated guns will always be more reliable with light loads than inertia designs who rely on the recoil to cycle.
Posted By: blackcoal

Re: Scatter guns - 10/09/16 07:35 PM

Best advice is buy both and give them the old side by side test with the ammo you will use the majority of the time. banana Then keep the other as a loaner.
Posted By: jhenderson

Re: Scatter guns - 10/09/16 08:10 PM

Thought about that too. Gonna need a bigger safe anyways.
Posted By: poisonivie

Re: Scatter guns - 10/09/16 11:22 PM

Benelli every time but thats just me.
Posted By: RiverRider

Re: Scatter guns - 10/10/16 02:44 AM

Originally Posted By: jhenderson
Thought about that too. Gonna need a bigger safe anyways.



I love happy endings.
cheerleader
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Scatter guns - 10/10/16 06:09 AM

It doesn't feel like we've talked about this recently. smile

Only kidding, you should check out my thread from a couple weeks ago about the A300. I went through lots of recommendations, but for the most part all agreed that the Beretta is an excellent gun, and the Benelli might struggle to cycle light loads a bit more. They're both built mainly as field guns, so either is really geared towards skeet shooting, but the gas gun would be more likely to handle it better than the inertia-operated rig. Either would handle field loads well, and the Benelli seems to be a little more refined from a manufacturing standpoint.

I have shot a Benelli before as well as a Beretta and ended up buying the Beretta mainly due to price. I think either would make a fine gun for most folks.
Posted By: cyphertext

Re: Scatter guns - 10/10/16 12:52 PM

Originally Posted By: patriot07

I have shot a Benelli before as well as a Beretta and ended up buying the Beretta mainly due to price. I think either would make a fine gun for most folks.


Wait... after all that talk about a pretty gun, you bought the Beretta? up
Posted By: colt45-90

Re: Scatter guns - 10/10/16 02:26 PM

maybe some one you know have either one and would let you shoot?
Posted By: ju993rnaut

Re: Scatter guns - 10/10/16 02:35 PM

They are both fine guns. I own an a300, and have used it for hunting and sporting clays, it has never given me any issues thousands of rounds fired.
Posted By: Tipps

Re: Scatter guns - 10/10/16 07:26 PM

i've been looking at both of the guns you mentioned as well. I don't have a 20 ga., and think I need one. I'm partial to gas though, so may end up with a Beretta. Wish Browning would go ahead and release the 20 ga. i A5
Posted By: rickym

Re: Scatter guns - 10/10/16 08:52 PM

Pick the one that fits you best. They are both fine guns
Posted By: ju993rnaut

Re: Scatter guns - 10/10/16 09:01 PM

They don't make the a300 in a 20ga
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: Scatter guns - 10/10/16 09:26 PM

Originally Posted By: syncerus
The inertia gun is probably easier to clean, the gas gun probably has less felt recoil. I'd say pick the one that fits you best.


this^^^
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Scatter guns - 10/11/16 01:22 AM

Originally Posted By: cyphertext
Originally Posted By: patriot07

I have shot a Benelli before as well as a Beretta and ended up buying the Beretta mainly due to price. I think either would make a fine gun for most folks.


Wait... after all that talk about a pretty gun, you bought the Beretta? up
I bought an A390 with beautiful gloss blue, a shiny walnut stock, engraving on the receiver, and a good trigger. $200 cheaper than a new A300 and $500 cheaper than a new Montefeltro.
Posted By: booradley

Re: Scatter guns - 10/11/16 06:13 AM

Originally Posted By: TDK
Quote:
Here's my concern on beretta. Had an older al390 silver mallard and it was unreliable. Would not cycle lighter loads consistently. Don't know if they fixed the issue with newer guns or not.


I've mentioned that your issue was specific to your gun, and isn't representative of the brand as a whole. gas operated guns will always be more reliable with light loads than inertia designs who rely on the recoil to cycle.


+1.

Your issue was a one off. Did you send it in for warranty work and get it fixed? I bet not. You stand a much greater chance of getting a Benelli that doesn't cycle light loads well than you do with a Beretta.

No company is perfect, you can get a dud with any of them. It is how a company addresses an issue that is important. The first Weatherby shotgun I bought was for my daughter. There was an issue with the shell lifter and it would not cycle. Placed a call to Weatherby midmorning. Within a few minutes I was Emailed a shipping label. Early in the afternoon UPS picked up the trigger group. Seven days later a new trigger group arrived and the shotgun functioned flawlessly.

When a situation like that occurs and the Manufacturer handles the situation correctly, they wind up with a more loyal, satisfied customer than if there had never been a problem. I've purchased three Weatherby shotguns since.
Posted By: jhenderson

Re: Scatter guns - 10/11/16 11:49 AM

Originally Posted By: booradley
Originally Posted By: TDK
Quote:
Here's my concern on beretta. Had an older al390 silver mallard and it was unreliable. Would not cycle lighter loads consistently. Don't know if they fixed the issue with newer guns or not.


I've mentioned that your issue was specific to your gun, and isn't representative of the brand as a whole. gas operated guns will always be more reliable with light loads than inertia designs who rely on the recoil to cycle.


+1.

Your issue was a one off. Did you send it in for warranty work and get it fixed? I bet not. You stand a much greater chance of getting a Benelli that doesn't cycle light loads well than you do with a Beretta.

No company is perfect, you can get a dud with any of them. It is how a company addresses an issue that is important. The first Weatherby shotgun I bought was for my daughter. There was an issue with the shell lifter and it would not cycle. Placed a call to Weatherby midmorning. Within a few minutes I was Emailed a shipping label. Early in the afternoon UPS picked up the trigger group. Seven days later a new trigger group arrived and the shotgun functioned flawlessly.

When a situation like that occurs and the Manufacturer handles the situation correctly, they wind up with a more loyal, satisfied customer than if there had never been a problem. I've purchased three Weatherby shotguns since.



I bought it used so there was no warranty to work with. Sent it to a gunsmith and he rebuilt the gun and still had issues from there. Paid him more to do what he did than I bought the gun for.
Posted By: cyphertext

Re: Scatter guns - 10/11/16 01:01 PM

Originally Posted By: jhenderson
Originally Posted By: booradley
Originally Posted By: TDK
Quote:
Here's my concern on beretta. Had an older al390 silver mallard and it was unreliable. Would not cycle lighter loads consistently. Don't know if they fixed the issue with newer guns or not.


I've mentioned that your issue was specific to your gun, and isn't representative of the brand as a whole. gas operated guns will always be more reliable with light loads than inertia designs who rely on the recoil to cycle.


+1.

Your issue was a one off. Did you send it in for warranty work and get it fixed? I bet not. You stand a much greater chance of getting a Benelli that doesn't cycle light loads well than you do with a Beretta.

No company is perfect, you can get a dud with any of them. It is how a company addresses an issue that is important. The first Weatherby shotgun I bought was for my daughter. There was an issue with the shell lifter and it would not cycle. Placed a call to Weatherby midmorning. Within a few minutes I was Emailed a shipping label. Early in the afternoon UPS picked up the trigger group. Seven days later a new trigger group arrived and the shotgun functioned flawlessly.

When a situation like that occurs and the Manufacturer handles the situation correctly, they wind up with a more loyal, satisfied customer than if there had never been a problem. I've purchased three Weatherby shotguns since.



I bought it used so there was no warranty to work with. Sent it to a gunsmith and he rebuilt the gun and still had issues from there. Paid him more to do what he did than I bought the gun for.


Think the issue is with the gunsmith and not Beretta at that point... If you buy an old Mustang and take it to Joe Bob's garage to rebuild it and it doesn't run right after that, would you blame Ford?
Posted By: booradley

Re: Scatter guns - 10/11/16 02:55 PM

Since you bought it used, please ignore my post.
Posted By: jhenderson

Re: Scatter guns - 10/11/16 04:10 PM

Well in all fairness I got it used and could have been why they got rid of it. Wouldn't cycle light loads before it was rebuilt either so don't know for sure what was up with it. Loved everything else about it.
© 2024 Texas Hunting Forum