Best AR??

Was hoping to get an AR-15. Any that yall can suggest? I was looking at Trojan firearms, what are yalls thoughts?

How much are you willing to spend? Match, hunting, self-defense? Lots of opinions on this, sort of like .30-06 vs .308.

Never heard of Trojan. Generally speaking, I think S&W, Rock River, DPMS, Windham, Colt all are good rifles for the money.

What do you want to do with it and what is your budget?

It will be hunting sir

There is no best AR. Having said that, there are some really good ones, and some you should really stay away from. And just because it goes bang every time the trigger is pulled doesn't make it a quality AR, although many will try to convince you of that. This is actually a very large can of worms as folks get emotionally attached to their purchase and will not accept the fact that they didn't buy a very good rifle.

Upper tier ARs will provide you better consistency and quality rifle to rifle than many other manufacturers, and often for not much more money than lesser rifles.

Not including some custom builders out there, Colt, Daniel Defense, Bravo Company, Lewis Machine & Tool (LMT), Noveske, Knight's Armament, and Larue all produce quality rifles (at different price points to be sure) and you really couldn't go wrong with either one of them.

You just have to determine what level of quality is acceptable for your money and what will fit within your budget. Good luck.

P.S. Now here come the folks with sensitive feelings about their rifle of choice.

Like they already said, you're going to get a ton of different answers on "best", most people will say whatever they have is the one to buy. It would be easier if you find what you like then ask a bout a specific riflle here rather than the broad question of what's best.

I have taken to building my own ARs this year, but it sounds like you want a complete rifle, which is probably going the best way to go for a new AR shooter. If you have any doubts and might be selling it in the future, buying a well respected name will make flipping it at a minimal loss easier.

A lot of these rifles are geared towards tactical or hard use, with chromed barrels, quad accessory rails, forward grips etc. IMO that's not needed for hunting, personally I'd prefer a stainless barrel and a more simple, lighter hand guard.

If you can afford a high end gun like a Larue, Noveske, or LMT I'm sure it'd shoot well and be a nice piece to own. In the mid price range and for hunting, I think RRA is a good value. I've had 2 factory RRA's that have both shot very well. I've seen Stag recommended as good value, though I've never used one. Doubt you go wrong with a Colt, though I don't think I'd like any of their hand guard configurations for a rifle primarily used for hunting.

Getting one already set up like you want it will be a big part of the decision unless you're willing to customize it later.

OP - what is your budget? The list I gave you is $800 and under. The list the kry226 provided is much, much higher than that (except for Colt). I would never personally spend $1000+ on any gun, so those type of extravagances are not even a consideration for me. I've personally owned a DPMS and Rock River. Both were accurate, reliable, and fun to shoot. Not sure what the ones listed below do better than the others, but I'm sure there has to be some advantage given the enormous price difference. I don't own any ARs right now, because they're just not my cup of tea. But the two I have owned in the past were excellent firearms.

Irons and optics always look tacky to me. I would get a flat top if your going to do a lot of hunting with it. Im not a big auto guy, but Ive have owned a few. They normally come with a ten pound red rider/Lawyer trigger, unless you buy a custom. I have a DPMS panther with the flat top, 16 inch stainless bull barrel. Man other than the crappy trigger its great, feeds good and is very accurate. I hope to drop a comp trigger in it soon. I had a Rem r 15 and it was accurate, but liked to double feed/jam. I do break my panther down every time I use it and clean it. They work so much better with extra cleanliness. The 16 inch bull barrel feels good on mine and I don't like over loaded accessorized ARs. Feels like a boat anchor out on the end.

Get a $40 Bill Springfield trigger job on that DPMS. Best $ you'll spend on that rifle. I agree the factory trigger is not great, but it's easily fixable for not much $.

RRA factory trigger is fantastic.

The problem is that words like "best" imply $$$. When I hear best, I think GA Precision, Wilson Combat, etc. While I appreciate these fine, fine rifles, my needs aren't sophisticated enough to justify the $$$, for my normal use. I own four Armalites, 2 AR15, 2 AR10, and am very happy with them. They would be considered mid-tier guns at best; I've replaced all of the triggers, and I'm very happy with what I've got.

I picked Armalite because I thought they were the best value, but the $$$/quality trade-off is one that you'll have to make for yourself.

Budget is what will determine what kind of AR you want to get. With that being said, never heard of trojan.

The best is Wilson Combat or Les Baer but again it all comes down to the best that you can afford.

In my opinion the name doesnt mean a thing.

What matters is

1. quality barrel
2. quality trigger
3. quality bcg
4. quality optic

go with a 6.8 or 6.5 if it is for purely hunting

Get a War Sport.

https://www.lwrci.com/p-329-ic-a5.aspx

LWRC International M6 if you really want the best. It is pricey but it is nice.

If you're asking what the best is, the answer is easily JP.

Best for the money is a $500 DPMS Oracle at Buds.

Mstn......clearly.

I guess I need to google bill springfield trigger job ,because the cheapest Ive seen is 200 + tax and shipping. I could shave off some real crucial shooting seconds on hogs if the gun would go off when I pull the trigger. Try walking a couple miles in 99 degree east tx heat and then making a 300 yrd light jog down to a 75 yard stalk and then shooting hogs at 50 to 200 yards free handed with a ten pound trigger. Its hard enough to hold steady and then hold steady while trying to coax a trigger back without pulling off target that has way too much resistance. Not easy. While those cross hairs are dancing all over the hogs, I need to be able to pull fast while on kill zone and not slow.

Best AR...JP Enterprise or Lewis Machine & Tool (LMT)...all others are subjective; let your budget dictate what you can afford! Prices are all over the map!

Pretty hard to define "best". I think the DPMS Gen 2 or Remington Gen 2 in 7mm-08 will be about the best all-around AR for hunting purposes. I see this design setting the common standard in an AR-10 series rifle.

Excellent advice. If just for hunting up to deer & hog size, I suggest 6.8 SPC.

ignore all the posts on here. I guarantee you most of these guys haven't ever fired the guns they are recommending. Just decide on a budget, do some research, handle the guns you are interested, and fire them if possible before you buy. Please, please don't base your decision on the advice of Internet commandos.

That's a pretty big assumption considering that you really don't know your audience. Who's the internet commando again?

This ^^^

Let's start with some questions...

What are you going to be hunting?
Why do you want an ar-15?
How far of a shot do you need to make?
Do you reload?
Would you prefer to buy or build?
Do you have a budget in mind?
Do you have secondary needs? Competitions, plinking, etc? Or is this a hunting gun only?

Asking what is the best ar is like asking what is the best car? There are a lot of options at different prices. Let's try narrowing down the list?

Hahahaha....

The best ARs are parts guns that you build plus you end up with exactly what you want.

Pretty much....


Best off the shelf would be JP but they are built more for comp than anything.

All you really need is a good barrel, good trigger, and good FFT. Lowers are whatever and type of upper is subjective to your needs. I.E. when I built my daughters AR for hunting this year I opted for an Aero upper without a FA to slim it up a bit.

Change it up a bit

What's the most ACCURATE......LIGHT WEIGHT......AR????? No heavy barrels, must under 7lbs

You're right, of course. There's no difference between Olympic Arms or Del-Ton and GA Precision or Wilson Combat. The $2500-$3000 price differential is just needless markup.

You guys quit, just quit. All the best AR's are in my gun safe. Neener neener neener.

I don't know where you got that from my post. Can you point out where I said anything remotely related to your statement?

It's the one you own. Mine is an old Olympic arms a2 with no bells or wistles. Goes bang every time though.

Fair enough. I was being a bit of a smarty pants. In all honesty, I do agree with you that there's no substitute for handling firearms in person so that you can have an informed experience rather than just buying what's fashionable on a shooting forum. It's also true that people like Bill Wilson cruise these forums on a regular basis; while certainly not everyone here is a expert, we do have a legitimate sprinkling. There are enough to keep the rest of us honest, for the most part.

The best AR could also be the best you can afford!

Say what?

Panther 16 inch bull barrel .223 feels good and not too heavy. A better trigger is all it needs.

I have no idea what the best is, I am an AR dummy. But tonight I was in Walmart here and they had a Windham flat top marked down from $849 to $350 and I bought it. I have already had $350 worth of fun with it!

That's a great deal, sir.

Leave it to Wal Mart to bring down the value of a product or throw the price waay off. Could you phathom trying to sell the same gun in a mom and pop gun store for lets say at the correct price. Big stores like Wal Mart can really throw the G + A market for a wild ride. I wished everybody would get back to normal on ammo prices and gun prices. Some real A holes started the price wars on the ammo a while back and It really pisses me off. Why not just do whats right and sell the items at the correct price. I do understand a sell, but who the hell can buy a new Windam flat top and turn around and sell it for a profit at 350 dollars?. Just the people that bought it from wal mart. No wonder nobody can sell ARs online when the people looking at them say but Wally World has them for half that price. Hey that is a good deal though. Wonder if wal mart bought it for ten dollars? I feel bad for the dude or dudets that bought it for the full price the day before they dropped the price. See what Im sayin.

That you're a nut? Is that what you're saying?

That's the way I read it.

WM is getting out of the AR business. That's why they're selling them so cheap.

Ahh I see. Yall laugh at what Im saying. Wait ten years from now and see if you can find a gun store still open that can actually work on a gun. Big chains like wal mart put the little guys out of business. Hey as long as there is wal mart and google this, I guess youll be just fine repairing or customizing your own guns. Im all about a deal too but Im pretty sure a dealer cant even buy a Windham flat top at their discounted price for that amount, but I wouldn't expect you to care. Ive seen some fine shops shut down due to the ease of ordering on the web, big chains like wally world, ect, and I guess you like high dollar ammo too. Everything needs to level back out. Hey if your a seasoned wal mart shopper more power to you. The k marts and targets quit selling hunting supplies in my area completely. You may look like a nut someday scrambling around trying to find some real help when your gun needs some pofessional assistance. Hey call Wal Marts gun repair guy, oh wait they don't have one and I don't make any sense at all. haha!

We're laughing at what you're saying because those were CLEARANCE prices. I don't know if there is any truth that Walmart is getting out of ARs, but I do know they were getting out of LAST YEAR's models on several guns, hence the clearance prices. As for shops shutting down, change is inevitable, and I haven't seen any 'high dollar' ammo at Walmart, only at LGS. Prices would level back out if idiots would quit hoarding the stuff. I know of a group in Lubbock that makes an Academy/Walmart run nearly every day and buys all the .22 LR they can get. I am willing to bet they are sitting on nearly 100k rounds or have somehow found a buyer. People like that are the problem, not you and me buying 500 rounds 3-4 times a year. As for guns needing professional assistance, those guys will be available, they just may not have a shop with 500 guns in it and 6 employees.

Capitalism is good.

Best AR is one you build yourself the way you want it.

I have a Colt LE6920 that is a great rifle. I have shot about 1000 rounds of steel case through it with no issues, and several hundred rounds of brass case ammo through it with no problems. I have experimented with it shooting with a little oil and with a lot of oil. Works everytime. At 50 yards, I could hit a dime size target every time. With some brass case ammo, I could shoot very nice 1.5" groups at a hundred yards using my scope. A few times I had a 1" 3 shot group using some high end ammo. The M4 really isn't suited to bench shooting(IMO), so I only shot at paper a few times. I just shoot at steel targets, clay pigeons, and critters now. I plan on installing a better trigger, the milspec triggers aren't as nice as a good bolt action.

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I was looking into Colt, bravo, larue and a couple others. You guys seem to know many many more. More reasearch

10 4 on the ammo info, its all just so frustrating sometimes. I see a lot of those type of folks online buying huge boxes of ammo and then selling it for 30 percent more than its actual value, if not more. The only little gun shop in Longview that actually was worth a hoot shut down, though they weren't the friendliest folks. Herd they had some FFL issues. 80,000 documented people and no freakin gun repair shop. Ill have to drive even further to Tyler I guess. You know when you need that specialty item and you don't want to wait to buy it like online. I hear yall on the sale, heck if our WM was dumb enough to drop those down to that price, I would buy a couple too.

How about a good scope you guys know about??

Lots of good scopes that will work with an AR. Recommend a quality scope base designed for ARs though. Lots of those available too.

It's really all about your budget. Buy the best you can afford.

I really like the Leupold brand AR scopes.