Alamo precision rifles

I am interested in getting a rifle from them and I would like to hear any positive or negative feed back. Thanks

Robert is a great smith running a really tight ship... I was one of the first ones to come visit their shop. They are putting out some really really cool products at a fantastic price... lots of intestine things in the works that I am not at liberty to talk about. Stop in and talk to the guys you won't regret it... and drool over the 26 nossler they built 2

I think they're pretty busy. I never could get through on Tuesday. Should be a good sign. I'm really wanting one from them too

What kind of intestine things are they building?

They are a ton of help and will spend all day answering your questions! I just dropped off a remington short action with them that is going to be turned in to a 260 AI. I can't hardly wait for the build to be done!!

I may have to put them to the test on the all day part!

I hope we hear how it shoots with MV reports. I'm also very curious as to how it cycles when moving fast.

lead time?

I see that several rifles on their site say "Accuracy Guaranteed", but I can't find an accuracy guarantee anywhere on their site. Are they guaranteed to shoot 5 MOA or .25 MOA or somewhere in between?

makes me want to pick up a cheap 700!

I'm interested in hearing the FPS too!

This is a guy from a user on another site that recently had a 260AI built by Alamo Precision. From what I've seen/heard from Robert, pretty much all of their guns will shoot .5moa, but some may be capable of .25moa. The owner of this gun got a 1.5" group at 400yrds while fire forming his loads.

Out of a 24" barrel this was his load and velocities

130g berger hunting, h4831sc powder, cci 200 primers, lapua brass

45.0 grains - 2674 fps 26 - Extreme sp

46.5 grains - 2769 fps 16 - Extreme sp

49.0 grains - 2886 fps 26 - extreme sp

49.5 grains - 2905 fps 54 - extreme sp and pressure signs

A few of the accuracy pics

It depends. Do you have all the parts and just need them to assemble or do you need to them to order everything for you? Alamo Precision would give you the best answer on this. I know they've got quite a few orders right now, so it might be a bit.

They will be installing a Wyatt's magazine box to hopefully avoid any cycling issues.

SHHHHHHHH! That's my idea! But that cheapo 700 is my hunting rig and I don't wanna get in a huge line by the time I take it in!

Based on those velocities I'd suggest H-4350 instead. My straight up .260 was running 130's @ 2850 fps on a brand new barrel. 200 rounds later and formed brass it was making 2950 fps MV. Why I switched over to 140's after 500 of those 130's.

I was surprised at the velocities as well. Everything I've read says RL 17 and 4831SC are the powders to use with the 260. I may have to check into the H-4350 as well.

JG - are you shooting a 24" or 26" barrel?

Bullfrog - I found a SA Remington from 1973 that I used for the build, there are some decent deals out there if you keep an eye out.

Oh I'm fine with taking mine in! It's just an ADL in 270. I really REALLY. Want to build a 6.5 CM off it.

Or if I can convince a buddy to get me started loading, 6.5X284

An LA 6.5 Creed? Will your's be the first? I've heard of 6.5-284 being
both Long Action and Short Action, but not 6.5 Creedmoore. Any benefits?

I'd have to ruminate 280/280ai in that mix if I had an old LA 700.

While not a 260AI I did play with RL17 in my 7mm-08AI a few weeks ago. I was just short of a node and was seeing 2880 with 162gr Amax. I'm going to see if I can get that into that node but I'm going to wait for summer to go farther into development.

I've know Robert for a while, even before they opened the shop. He's a straight up guy who knows rifles and how to make them shoot little bug holes. If he tells you something you can take it to the bank. You'll never meet a more honest person and you surely won't regret doing business with him. He's got a lot of rifles to build at the moment but my guess is that as more of his work gets out the reported results will cause his backlog to keep getting bigger and wait times longer but it will be worth the wait.
Robert and Jason have a first class shop set up. They are in it for the long haul.

So everybody knows who this guy is, but nobody knows what the accuracy guarantee actually is?

If you're going to make an accuracy guarantee, why wouldn't that be front and center on your website and every other marketing tool you've got?

You seem really concerned with an accuracy guarantee. Do you mean 3 or 5 shot groups? What kind of guarantee would impress you?

I don't know anything about Alamo Precision, whether they do or don't offer a specific guarantee, but I imagine making such guarantees is a royal PITA for any rifle smith.

I wonder how many customers they get who can't produce consistent enough handloaded ammo or shoot well enough to print consistent sub 1/2moa groups. And I'm not saying I can, I just see talk of consistent 1/4-1/2 moa groupings get thrown around a lot and I'm curious...

I realize there are implications that come along with that guarantee. But those implications are no problem for Weatherby and other factory makers. Why should they be an issue for a custom builder charging 3x the price and up?

I'm not making it up. Their website is the one that has "accuracy guarantee" on it. They just never actually say what it is (unless I'm missing it, which is why I posed the question initially). Seems very odd to guarantee accuracy but not actually tell you what level of accuracy it is.

It would be like a car manufacturer offering an mpg guarantee without telling you what kind of mpg you are guaranteed to get. What's the point of a guarantee if it isn't quantified?

I have a LA 243 Winchester. I just assumed with all the 6.5's being such a long bullet, why would a LA be an issue for a CM?

I think that you need to go by and talk to them. I'm sure that you'll be convinced. It wouldn't be a good business practice to give a carte blanche accuracy guarantee without specifying material requirements.
If you take him the cheapest barrel that you can get at Midway and an action of unknown quality and a pos plastic factory take off stock and tell him to just screw it together for you. How in the world could he guarantee accuracy?
Robert even checks the high dollar custom actions for squareness, run-out of the threads and anything else that might affect accuracy.
I don't know of a rifle he has built with quality components that wouldn't shoot .5 or less in the hands of a competent shooter, but we all know that all shooters are not created equal!

Well I can't wait to get mine started. I would LOVE to see the shop. It's over by that Yamaha dealership off 820 and 10?

That all makes sense. But why does he advertise an "accuracy guarantee" then?

It sucks that everything HAS to be spelled out perfectly in this day and age. If he were to put out a bad product, I'm 100% certain we'd all know about it through word of mouth. Based on what I've seen on the website, I have 0 reservations about walking in with my action and saying, build it.

It's a nice shop. They've got a good selection of factory guns at some pretty good prices. It's off 820 and 10, I don't remember seeing a Yamaha dealership though, maybe I missed it.





I think because the 6.5 CM was designed for a short action. I originally wanted a 6.5x284, but eventually went with the 260AI.

I haven't been over there in a while. Right on the NE corner was a motorcycle/jet ski dealer. Maybe they folded. I dunno

I would assume that he builds rifles to customer specifications as in "custom" some of those specifications may lead to worse accuracy, or something they are not willing to guarantee. If they build it the way they want may be where the guarantee comes into play.

If you don't have a bone to pick with them then call them up and ask them. They advertise a guarantee, it your interested hear them out, what your doing is casting doubt on them before you even know anything.

Google says it's there, I must have just missed it!





Just give them a call I'm sure they will answer your question. I would think the accuracy would vary a bit between the barrel you use and what exact build you want. They specialize more in hunting type rifles and tactical type of setups, not bench rest guns (not saying they can't do it though if thats what your looking for). If I can realistically get 1/2moa or better all day long I'll be happy.

I hate to steal this thread a bit, but who has experience with this side bolt stop?

I was not aware there was such and option. When I checked around online, this APR shop's price is one of the better ones. Anyone had this done, in particular by this APR shop?

For years I've had problems with my bolt release lever getting stuck to point where I have to take it out of the stock after about using 2-3. This would just totally eliminate my problem.

Don't all the high end actions have the side bolt release? Is that what they mean?

Or they can do them anyway. I found pics on the custom action websites. Didn't feel right posting the pics on here

Here is one of Roberts side bolt stop releases on a Remington action

Those are a lot easier than that little button in front of the trigger on the 700, which is better than the one on the 600 and 660. Easiest operating factory Remington bolt stop that I know of is the 788.

MikeC, who is Robert and do you know how much that service is?

All the prices are on their website. $110 for slide release and $35 to hex cut the bolt.

can they build a ground up AR?

Looks like they are building some real nice rifles at reasonable prices. I talked to them and they seem like real knowledgeable straight shooters.

Robert is the gunsmith at Alamo precision Rifles. $110 on a Remington action.

I'm thinking that Jason is the AR man in the shop and I'm pretty sure that they can.

Gentlemen,

This thread was just brought to my attention. Glad to see the interest on this forum. That said, we are not a sponsor on this site and I don't know what the rules are concerning that, and I sure don't want to step on anybody's toes here. I will answer a few questions here, then will ask that you contact us by phone or by email through our site. We are a small shop, so its hard to always answer the phone when customers are in the store, but if you leave a message we WILL get back to you.

We offer two types of builds. Option 1 is a full custom build using your choice of components. Option 2 is a semi-custom rifle based on a Remington 700 action. We can build on your action or provide the action for you. These rifles are sold as a "package" deal and come standard with alot of custom features already included. They can be found on our site under "APR Exclusives". Our accuracy guarantee for these rifles is also listed on that page as sub-MOA.

Most hand loaders will have no issues getting them to 1/2 MOA or better. Getting to, and beyond that level depends every bit as much on the capability of the shooter/loader as it does on the rifle itself. While we can't guarantee the shooter's skill level, rest assured, if you're not happy with the rifle's performance than neither are we.

Thanks,
Robert

Straight from the man himself!

Yep. Nice to have him chime in. Thanks.

Yep, that dealer is gone but I found it really easy. DANG I fell in love with what you get here! Time to sell one to fund it, even as affordable as it is. Spoke with Robert and an older gentleman that was patient as could be with my rug-rat running around in there. Their full custom builds look great, their package deals are awesome and it seems all the other guns they sell are very well priced! I like what I saw. Can't wait to drop back in

They most definitely have a good selection! Can't wait to get my custom build back!

Just following up to see if you received your 260 AI yet and what your thoughts were.

Here is a 280AI Jason and Robert built for me. I absolutely love it. My 260 should be ready next week. I don't thing you can go wrong with Alamo.