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Cartridge poll

Posted By: P & Y

Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 12:52 AM

If you were building a SA custom in something other than 6.5mm with a non mag boltface which would you choose? Assuming ammo availability wasn't an issue and used for Texas deer and long range plinking.
Posted By: wp75169

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 01:33 AM

I voted other. As I am currently having a 7-08 built for dual purpose.
Posted By: TCB

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 01:35 AM

Voted for the .22 Creedmoor because of the "cool" factor
Posted By: ltsheets

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 02:22 AM

6mm creed for me as I'd want it to handle mulies and sheep as well. 22 creed is very tempting though.
Posted By: RiverRider

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 02:26 AM

6mm-284, the caveat being ammo is no issue being a handloader. You can get as much powder under a bullet with this cartridge as I think is pratical. YMMV.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 02:45 AM

6 Creedmoor
Posted By: Wburke2010

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 02:48 AM

I voted 6 creed because the 105 hybrid around 3k fps is about as good as it gets imho.

Walter
Posted By: aggiehunter03

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 03:09 AM

6mmWSM just for the heck of it.
Posted By: CitySlickerHunter

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 03:14 AM

Originally Posted By: TCB
Voted for the .22 Creedmoor because of the "cool" factor
+1
Posted By: dee

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 03:17 AM

I voted other as I feel like my 7mm-08AI serves very well in this role. A 162gr Amax at 2812fps is some stout medicine. That being said I am also building a 6mm Creedmoor to play around with but won't have a full opinion for a few months.
Posted By: HorizonFirearms

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 03:34 AM

Where is D stroud.. I have built him both the 6 and the 22 creed wonder his opinion fact that he drives them all the time. I personally say 22 creed as that is my daily driver. Been deadly out to 455 so far and was shooting gongs at 900 this weekend
Posted By: WileyCoyote

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 03:43 AM

Since I am always behind what the KoolKids are doing..for a long range plinker I'd build a 280AI VT style something...and bang 4 footed stuff as far as I could see them with appropriate for critter sized bullets.
Ron
Posted By: BigPig

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 03:44 AM

I voted OTHER, I can't buy those at Walmart, and I am very forgetful, so Walmart is important
Posted By: kmon11

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 03:57 AM

Of that list the 22 Creedmoor, fun pushing a 22 pill at high velocity. But for it to really shine go with a 1:7 twist and push the Berger 90gr bullets fast. But still will do good with the Swift 75gr Sirocco for popping game at a distance from a light recoiling rifle.

Could do a 224TTH and have a little more room for powder bolt
Posted By: RiverRider

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 04:23 AM

Originally Posted By: kmon1


Could do a 224TTH and have a little more room for powder bolt



If it's a HOT .22 you want...
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 04:24 AM

Originally Posted By: dee
I voted other as I feel like my 7mm-08AI serves very well in this role. A 162gr Amax at 2812fps is some stout medicine.


^^TRUTH^^

That's quite the bada$$ in a short action.
Posted By: P & Y

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 04:37 AM

Got a couple I never considered coming out of the woodworks here. Never heard of the 6mm-284, necked down .280 rem? do you have to fireform brass for the 7mm-08AI?
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 04:45 AM

I voted other. Lots more weights and options in 7mm bullets
Posted By: kmon11

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 04:45 AM

Dee has a 7mm-08 AI. Good round that has to be fire formed but that is easy to do, the case stretch is very little.

RiverRider has a 6mm-284 IRRC. About as much powder as is useful in a 6mm and still fits in a short action. It is a necked down 284 Winchester, but easiest way is to neck down a 6.5-284 Norma which in itself is a good gun but really needs a long action for best results.
Posted By: RiverRider

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 04:47 AM

Originally Posted By: P & Y
Got a couple I never considered coming out of the woodworks here. Never heard of the 6mm-284, necked down .280 rem? do you have to fireform brass for the 7mm-08AI?




The 6-284 the .284 Winchester necked down to 6mm. Best way to go is use 6.5-284 (another derivative of the .284) brass and neck it down, not a problem. I get 3350 fps with a 95-grain Nosler Partition. I'd say it's probably good to 400 if I do my part. I could screw around with high-BC bullets but see no point in doing so.

For 7mm-08 AI, you'd need to fireform brass but that's no big deal really.
Posted By: RiverRider

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 04:51 AM

Kmon posted as I was composing my reply. He's right about action length with the 6-284, if you're using a longer action you can take advantage of the .284's capacity (almost equal to the .30-06) to a greater extent...but even if you're using a short action you'll still get more than out of other cartridges. It's a fatter case, kinda like the beltless magnums. Same bolt face though on account of the rebated rim.
Posted By: tth_40

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 07:51 AM

Originally Posted By: wp75169
I voted other. As I am currently having a 7-08 built for dual purpose.


cheers up
Posted By: Rockfish Dave

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 09:08 AM

I have a 6.5 SLR Improved and it hammers.

If you handload which I assume you do, then no reason not to do the 6 SLR if you don't care about cost, I'd improve it too. It's the best of the 6x47, 6 Creed and 243.
Posted By: dee

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 01:16 PM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: dee
I voted other as I feel like my 7mm-08AI serves very well in this role. A 162gr Amax at 2812fps is some stout medicine.


^^TRUTH^^

That's quite the bada$$ in a short action.


I wish I could have ran the Amax down at the match but I'm not sure it would have been fully stabilized given the 500ft elevation drop. I know my twist is great for the 168 but that 162 is a finicky sucker in a 1:10 twist.
Posted By: WileyCoyote

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 01:32 PM

Dee, if you were to run a 9 something twist in that 7-08Ackley would that cure the elevation ? you mentioned?? I'd really like to run 120's & 140's in a 7mm & don't see the need to feed a Magnum for my under 4-500 self imposed limits, with no intentions of shooting steel as the rifle's primary use.

At some point within sight my T3 270 is gonna get a new tube & full dress overhaul, and I had about decided on a 280AI for sure... but the idea of getting your MV's is interesting in the 308 family case, since I've found where I can get a 9.3x62 T3 at a "normal" MSRP as the final club in the bag.
Ron
Posted By: dee

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 02:31 PM

[quote=WileyCoyote]Dee, if you were to run a 9 something twist in that 7-08Ackley would that cure the elevation ? you mentioned?? I'd really like to run 120's & 140's in a 7mm & don't see the need to feed a Magnum for my under 4-500 self imposed limits, with no intentions of shooting steel as the rifle's primary use.
quote]

Yes it would and was supposed to be but the wrong barrel got sent. After some number crunching and deliberation it was determined that the 162 would work fine in my typical 800-1000 ft elevation level. It actually had a marginal or "OK" stability rate for the elevation at the match but I didn't want to chance it being that I had never verified the stability. The last thing I wanted to do was show up with a round that tumbled. Only downside was the 168 Sierra looses a little bc and with a longer bearing surface also was down on velocity by about 30fps.
Posted By: JThoele

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/06/15 10:11 PM

Originally Posted By: WileyCoyote
I've found where I can get a 9.3x62 T3 at a "normal" MSRP as the final club in the bag.
Ron


Care to share where??
Posted By: Revoman

Re: Cartridge poll - 02/07/15 01:58 AM

6-250 AI
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