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Suped-up 22

Posted By: Fishing Fester

Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 06:14 PM

Ive been wanting to build a suped-up 22 for a long time now. But Im curious to know yalls opinions on how to go about it. Ive always liked the idea of a Volquartsen laminate stock, with a free floating fluted barrel. What kind of distance can i expect it to tack-drive out to. Whats the best platform to start with. Which barrel is the best to go with? Lots of questions but id like yalls opinions and pics of youre rigs as well. Thanks in advance guys.
Posted By: P_102

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 06:17 PM

I'd start with a 22 TCM from Rock Island Armory. 2800 fps out of their rifle, 2100 fps out of a 911.
Posted By: Fishing Fester

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 06:21 PM

Ive thought about that P. I have the commander length 1911 of theirs, Very potent round. You might have the right idea about that one! But I hate having to neck down the 223 brass!
Posted By: P_102

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 07:06 PM

Wouldn't you just buy the rounds? Last I checked they were about $38 per 100.
Posted By: Toxarch

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 07:28 PM

What kind of 22? You can take a 22-250 and shoot 1000 yards with about a 375" drop.
Posted By: Fishing Fester

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 07:41 PM

Was thinking mostly about 22lr.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 07:49 PM

Wouldn't 200 yards be about the limit of the 22 LR?
Posted By: Strongbad

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 07:55 PM

It would indeed. With a good barrel and ammo it liked you can make pretty small holes out to 100, much be on that and it gets dicey. Since you're looking at mods, and a Volquartsen stock I can only assume you mean a 10/22. With 10/22's the sky is the limit. The main thing is either get a good aftermarket trigger, or get a kit to fix the stock one. Pick the stock of your choice. These days I'm of the mind that an aftermarket extractor is a must have as well. Then a mag release of whatever style/design you like.

Now, if you wanted a sweet 22 LR target type rifle straight out of the box (just as an alternative) you might look at an Anschutz. The problem is they're pricey as hell. They're worth it though.
Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 08:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Toxarch
What kind of 22? You can take a 22-250 and shoot 1000 yards with about a 375" drop.


My 22-250 only drops 264" at a 1000yrds or 7.3 mils ...... wink



for a .22lr go with a CZ455 and start tuning it up,,,,, easy inexpensive action and lots of aftermarket parts....

Posted By: Toxarch

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 08:31 PM

Savage Mark II. Here's a guy shooting .22LR at 344 yards at a 12" plate.


I have the Savage Mark II FV-SR which is the black threaded barrel version. Changed the scope rail to a 25 MOA one, changed the stock, added a scope.
[Linked Image]
Posted By: Cast

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 08:53 PM

I got a half dozen high end 10/22's. They all shoot 1000 yards lights out. I ain't kiddin, maybe lying though. Seriously, don't try to shoot past 100 yards with 22lr, it just makes you look silly. Be happy with a 50 yard tack driver that never, ever misses. Shoot that rifle 100 yards and be disappointed. It will definitely spread and consistency is all but lost.

100 yards and beyond is a job for 223.
Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 09:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Cast
Seriously, don't try to shoot past 100 yards with 22lr, it just makes you look silly.


I'll take bets out to 200yrds......
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 09:56 PM

Yep, cz455 can't you swap the barrel for a 17hmr as well? That gun with that stock is just awesome
Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 10:01 PM

yes, I have the 17hmr as well but I just love shooting 22lr...
Posted By: Strongbad

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/16/14 10:16 PM

Totally forgot about the CZ's. CZ makes some slick 22's.
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 12:59 AM

I have a really, REALLY hard time when I have to hand that gun back to the guy behind the counter. One day I'm gonna walk out with it. Once I pay of course. Lol
Posted By: Bullfrog

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 12:59 AM

There was a guy on here with an extra barrel for sale too. Don't know if it ever sold.
Posted By: Fishing Fester

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 01:12 AM

Appreciate all the replies guys. I know about 150 is my maximum distance with 22lr. I really like that bottom savage of yours toxarch. Especially the threaded fluted barrel. How does she shoot? Wanted to can mine in the future as well, so that barrel is right up my alley. Also, what stock are you running on it now.
Posted By: Loaded

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 01:46 AM

With .22LR how far you can shoot good groups all depends on the wind. At 50 yards with no wind the right shooter and rifle can shoot 1 hole groups and still get respectable groups at 100.

One of my friends has a Savage Mark II FV-SR like the one pictured. He had a can on it and surprised me when he cranked the elevation dial on his cheap BSA scope and was consistently hitting steel at 200 yards from the get go.
Posted By: Toxarch

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 02:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Fishing Fester
Appreciate all the replies guys. I know about 150 is my maximum distance with 22lr. I really like that bottom savage of yours toxarch. Especially the threaded fluted barrel. How does she shoot? Wanted to can mine in the future as well, so that barrel is right up my alley. Also, what stock are you running on it now.


200 yards is easy with a good rifle. It's even easier with Match ammo. Mine shoots great. Only downside is only 5 and 10 round mags are available. Suppressed, since it's a bolt action, about the only thing you hear is the pin and the bullet hitting the target.
Here's the info on the rifle:
Boyds Tacticool stock , nylon spacers, DIP trigger guard and base plate, Harris bipod, DIP 25 MOA rail, Mueller APT 4.5-14x40, Mueller 3" shade, Weaver 6 hole low rings

And if you want to see other setups and range results, there's an 85 page thread on the Savage rimfires on AR15.com.
Posted By: Rembrandt

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 02:17 AM

Volquartsen components are top of the line....if not "the" top. Had Tom Volquartsen build me this one over 25 years ago, back before he became famous for his .22's. The rifle is capable of one hole groups at 100 yards using Eley Tennex ammo. Keep in mind that when discussing .22 rimfire accuracy, the gun is only half the equation.....the other half is the ammo. Tom cut the chamber to match the ammo I would be using in competition.



We enjoy shooting "flies" at 100 yards. Sprinkle Coke on a blank target and let the sugar dry, flies will land on the paper and be attracted to the dried sugar. A hit is when the bullet hole has bug blood around the edges. Amazing what we find to entertain ourselves.






To wring out that kind of accuracy from a 10/22 you'll need to spend some money on both the rifle and ammo.

Best nail drivers I've found are the old Winchester model 52's....accuracy without any extra work needed.

Posted By: Fishing Fester

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 02:51 AM

Day yum Rembrandt, those are freaking gorgeous!!! That's the look I had in mind. Phenomenal rigs you have there. Thanks for the spec list on that savage. I think that's what I'll build. Then when I have some disposable income I'll build one of those like yours Rembrandt.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 03:59 AM

If only I could find a way to open the channel in this stock so I could fit a fat barrel to this. I don't know how high end it is but I built it myself from a new rifle that came with a plastic butt plate, plastic trigger, plastic barrel band. The guts of the home polished TG are all shimmed, bigger pinned, and all the springs have been changed. All the controls are updated and it has a Volquartsen hammer. Break is clear as a bell at about 1 pound 14 ounces. I did the wood too....




Posted By: Cast

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 12:27 PM

It would take me about an hour to open that up for a bull barrel. But I wouldn't do it to a carbine stock.
Posted By: catslayer

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 02:48 PM

I have HIT a target with a 22 and over 300... a gallon jug of milk.... it dinted/cracked the shell but didn't really penetrate. We were shooting off a balcony like 150 feet elevation off the wheat field we were shooting at and I walked on to target.

Volquartsen is the gold standard. I'd get a 10/22 and one of there barrels. i'd probably go with a 10 22 folding stock so it would be more handy in the truck.

I as good as the semi autos get accuracy wise... I don't understand why you would go bolt... .22 is about the only thing I can that about
Posted By: Toxarch

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/17/14 08:34 PM

Originally Posted By: catslayer
I as good as the semi autos get accuracy wise... I don't understand why you would go bolt... .22 is about the only thing I can that about

Because when shooting suppressed, a bolt action is a LOT quieter than a semi-auto.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/18/14 03:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Cast
It would take me about an hour to open that up for a bull barrel. But I wouldn't do it to a carbine stock.


How?

Why not?
Posted By: Rluckie

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/20/14 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by Toxarch
Savage Mark II. Here's a guy shooting .22LR at 344 yards at a 12" plate.


I have the Savage Mark II FV-SR which is the black threaded barrel version. Changed the scope rail to a 25 MOA one, changed the stock, added a scope.
[Linked Image]

That's a sharp looking Savage you have there.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/20/14 04:24 AM

Emory cloth and a bipod, nothing more.
Posted By: Toxarch

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/20/14 09:03 AM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Emory cloth and a bipod, nothing more.

Were you trying to insult my rifle?
Posted By: Cast

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/20/14 03:05 PM

Originally Posted By: GasGuzzler
Originally Posted By: Cast
It would take me about an hour to open that up for a bull barrel. But I wouldn't do it to a carbine stock.


How?

Why not?


A dowel wrapped with coarse sandpaper. Why not? The carbine stock doesn't have quite enough meat. I would get another stock.
Posted By: RLoving1

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/20/14 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Rembrandt
Volquartsen components are top of the line....if not "the" top. Had Tom Volquartsen build me this one over 25 years ago, back before he became famous for his .22's. The rifle is capable of one hole groups at 100 yards using Eley Tennex ammo. Keep in mind that when discussing .22 rimfire accuracy, the gun is only half the equation.....the other half is the ammo. Tom cut the chamber to match the ammo I would be using in competition.



We enjoy shooting "flies" at 100 yards. Sprinkle Coke on a blank target and let the sugar dry, flies will land on the paper and be attracted to the dried sugar. A hit is when the bullet hole has bug blood around the edges. Amazing what we find to entertain ourselves.






To wring out that kind of accuracy from a 10/22 you'll need to spend some money on both the rifle and ammo.

Best nail drivers I've found are the old Winchester model 52's....accuracy without any extra work needed.





have you priced some of the 52's? One in decent shape are bringing the money! My dad loves his like the one on the bottom, I like shooting the target version if my eyes weren't getting bad looking through peep sights.
Posted By: TFF Caribou

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/20/14 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Toxarch
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Emory cloth and a bipod, nothing more.

Were you trying to insult my rifle?


I think he was referring to opening up the barrel channel.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/20/14 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
Originally Posted By: Toxarch
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Emory cloth and a bipod, nothing more.

Were you trying to insult my rifle?


I think he was referring to opening up the barrel channel.


Correct. I replied to Gasguzzler about opening up a barrel channel.

I would not insult anyone's rifles and yours are mighty fine!
Posted By: Rembrandt

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/20/14 11:10 PM

Originally Posted By: RLoving1

have you priced some of the 52's? One in decent shape are bringing the money! My dad loves his like the one on the bottom, I like shooting the target version if my eyes weren't getting bad looking through peep sights.


You're right.....prices for 52's are right up there. Original Sporters are the most sought after. Glad I started collecting them years ago before they went wild.
Posted By: Cast

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/21/14 12:04 AM

It's true. I have pursued the elusive 100 yard 10/22 for many years. Them I bought my Win52. That dang gun will shoot automatch just as well as Wolf MT. At 100 yards. I don't understand why or what the difference is as my 10/22's will all put ten rounds in the same hole at fifty yards, but at 100 yards the pattern opens up.
Posted By: Toxarch

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/21/14 12:18 AM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Correct. I replied to Gasguzzler about opening up a barrel channel.

I would not insult anyone's rifles and yours are mighty fine!

Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part. I wasn't sure whom you were addressing.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/21/14 12:56 AM

It would take a month of Sundays to sand that much out of the channel manually. I'm sure it would eventually work but I thought there might have been a more efficient DIY method. There's plenty there, it would just look funny with the step at the front where no band would fit or be needed any longer I guess.
Posted By: Cast

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/21/14 01:11 AM

No way it's that hard. I use a (1"?) dowel with very coarse sticky back sandpaper. It cuts fast. Then switch to smoother grade for finish sanding. I think I've got one already done in my gun room.
Posted By: Misfire

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/21/14 03:26 AM


16.5 Volquartsen THM tension CF Barrel
Predator Mantis Stock
Power Custom Sear
Power Custom Hammer
Power Custom Springs and Shims
Volquartsen base
Leupold VXIII 2.5X8
Leupold PRW rings
Bolt Buffer





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Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: Suped-up 22 - 12/22/14 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Cast
It's true. I have pursued the elusive 100 yard 10/22 for many years. Them I bought my Win52. That dang gun will shoot automatch just as well as Wolf MT. At 100 yards. I don't understand why or what the difference is as my 10/22's will all put ten rounds in the same hole at fifty yards, but at 100 yards the pattern opens up.


For 100+ yrd accuracy you have to use subsonic (target) ammo to start with,
as with HV .22LR the bullet will transition from super-sonic to sub-sonic (wobbling as it does) before hitting the target at 100+ yrds.
Centerfires typically don't have this issue to contend with.

Plus, as you have written, for extreme accuracy, the bolt-actions will always out-do the semi-auto's, all other things equal.
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