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308 for aoudad?
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03/09/10 04:02 PM
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does the 308 win have the power to knock down a Aoudad at free range distances? Where your shots are 200 yards plus, or would you need more power? I am asking because just bought a BAR in 308 and was wanting to use it on a hunt this fall but wasn't sure if it would be up to snuff for aoudad. I have time if need be to get a bigger rifle just looking for some info from guys that have hunted them thanks
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/09/10 06:31 PM
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I shot one with a .44 magnum right behind the shoulder and it still kept on going.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/09/10 10:51 PM
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No question the .308 will work, but if you have the means to buy a new rifle.....I would opt for a heavier magnum .30 caliber bolt-action rifle. I shoot a .300 WSM for most of my hunting. Also, in my experience auto-rifles are not very accurate past 200 yards.
jensent,
Comparing a .44 magnum to a .308 is like comparing apples to oranges. The .308 has at least double the kinetic energy of a .44.....but the .44 also has a much heavier bullet, so you have to make tradeoffs. However, you won't be making many 200+ yard shots with a .44
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 12:47 AM
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Taz
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more than enough if you can make the shot!!
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 01:11 AM
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rwm253
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The US Military Snipers use 308 and make kills at 800 yards, I am willing to bet that it will work on an Aoudad
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 01:12 AM
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rwm253
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The 308 has the same kinetic energy at 800 yards as a 357 at the muzzle
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 01:15 AM
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The US Military Snipers use 308 and make kills at 800 yards, I am willing to bet that it will work on an Aoudad you have a point lol Thanks guys for the input.......
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 04:52 AM
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If the hunter can put it in the right place .308 will definitely handle it. Use a bonded-core bullet with a good BC (like a Nosler Accubond or the new Hornady Interbond). The bullet will drop less at distance.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 10:36 AM
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The US Military Snipers use 308 and make kills at 800 yards, I am willing to bet that it will work on an Aoudad They make hits at 800 yards.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 10:38 AM
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I wouldn't even consider it when there are so many other rounds that shoot circles around it.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 02:01 PM
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a .308 is fine...my close friend used one to knock down a 300 lb ram with it at 250 yards. 165 grain boattail hollow point.
the only way i'd opt of of using that, or a .270, or a .30-06 is if shots were more than likely going to be 350 yards or better, then i would feel more comfortable with a magnum.
shoot for the shoulder to anchor the animal, but we've killed aoudad with 308's, 25-06's, 30-06's, we've even killed one with a .22-250 using 55 grain sierra gamekings
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 02:10 PM
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Of course in my opinion drop the 308 and go for the big gun a 338 Lapua
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 03:24 PM
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Of course in my opinion drop the 308 and go for the big gun a 338 Lapua I wish I could justify a 338 Lapua in my safe. Back on topic, the great thing about hunting for sport vs. survival, is that if you think you are under gunned you can always get in closer - provided you have developed that skill along with your long range shooting skills. I love long range shooting and short range hunting, but then I don't pay big dollars to hunt. If I did, my point of view might change a bit. -ww
A thousand reasoned opinions never equal to one case of diving in and finding out.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 03:50 PM
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A .308 with do the job. It's all in the shot placement, even with a .338 shot placement is the key. And the comment about a semi-auto not being accurate past 200 yards. Shoot a R-25 .308 and that will change your mind, I sold my Remington 700 30.06 after I saw how well my R-25 shot. Just find a good bullet that the gun likes and you will never look back.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 05:49 PM
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thanks again , I secured a older sako today in 7 mag problem solved but thanks for all the help the 1969 Bar will sit the Auodad hunt out.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 08:09 PM
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Last Auodad I took was with a Remington 750 Carbine, in 308, from a tree branch rest, 268 yards across a canyon.... he tumbled into the canyon DRT. Long drag up. But the bullet did it's job even with Federal 150gr Blue Box and a short barrelled rifle....
It's plenty if its in the right spot.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/10/10 08:47 PM
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I dropped my aoudad in his tracks this year with a .270 at 200 yds. Like so many other people have said before, it's about shot placement. I think the .308 is more than enough.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/11/10 04:16 PM
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With a 308 go for the high shoulder shot and make sure and drop him in his tracks. I prefer a bigger gun, the few aoudad i have shot i used a 300 weatherby and i still had one go about 100 yards.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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03/16/10 01:45 AM
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I shot one with my .308 two years ago and it worked fine. They are very resilient animals so shot location should be put at a premium.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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05/03/10 05:14 PM
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Also, in my experience auto-rifles are not very accurate past 200 yards. I would put my LR-308 up against any bolt action out to 700 yards. Mine holds a 2.5 inch group at 500 yards. I use Sierra Matchking 168 gr. BTHP. Of course obtaining a good shot group takes practice. I would go with a 168 gr or 175 gr bullet for long distance. You can compensate for drop easier than you can wind. Took this one at 375 yards. One shot at the shoulder. Dropped him on the spot without even rolling down the hill. Took down the other one running up the hill at around 400 yards. He did roll however.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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05/04/10 12:21 AM
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texas republic,
That's a beautiful ram!! Congratulations and good shooting!!
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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05/04/10 02:05 AM
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If you are wanting to shoot out past 300 yards, you need to be sure you have a "good" range finder before you ever think about a rifle. I would suggest the Leica range master. In my opinion, they are the best bang for buck for an acceptable one. Leupold's line of "range finders" are a joke in my opinion. Tried two different ones only to return them the next day.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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05/04/10 06:54 PM
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Buddy of mine shot one with a 30-30 at about 80 yrds. He tracked him for several hours before he found him. High power needed for sure.
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Re: 308 for aoudad?
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05/04/10 07:32 PM
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Buddy of mine shot one with a 30-30 at about 80 yrds. He tracked him for several hours before he found him. High power needed for sure. same thing happend to a buddy of mine.....leave the 30-30 at home or make a neck shot
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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