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220 lb Depredating Boar On Terraced Hill #6749644 04/29/17 07:02 PM
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We made a long stalk to get this guy, coming up the hill two terraces above the hog to circle around him as he tore the grass from the sod. I have heard several times that when injured, animals will not run up hill. This hog did exactly that, run up hill, which was terrific as he came closer to us...



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Man I cant wait to get into some night hunts. Great video!


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Re: 220 lb Depredating Boar On Terraced Hill [Re: Double Naught Spy] #6749760 04/29/17 09:19 PM
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YAGV - Yet Another Great Video!

What are you guys using for spotting? Thermal Monocular or your Weapon Sights?


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Re: 220 lb Depredating Boar On Terraced Hill [Re: Double Naught Spy] #6749818 04/29/17 10:39 PM
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I use two optics. If I am doing shorter range stuff, inside of 200 yards, I carry a FLIR PS32 spotting thermal. If we are doing hunting where we search large fields, I am using an Armasight Zeus 2-16x42 that I have adapted to a hand grip even though it is a rifle scope. It is what is being used for part of the video. Originally, it was purchased as a backup scope and now serves multiple roles. I put it on a rifle when needed and use it as a spotter when needed.


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Another great watch cheers Excellent use of alliteration too lol


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Re: 220 lb Depredating Boar On Terraced Hill [Re: Double Naught Spy] #6749889 04/30/17 12:08 AM
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Im seeing the same results with those S&B 110 PTS bullets. They're just not putting them on the ground. I've lost my last 4 in a row to them, in fact. I bought 300 from SGAmmo because I can't load my usual 120 SST's as cheap as I got those, and they had great reviews. Needless to say I'm done with them though. Back to the 120's.

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I, too, have noticed this with them.


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Great video. And as always, an excellent job narrating.


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Re: 220 lb Depredating Boar On Terraced Hill [Re: fill] #6749972 04/30/17 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: fill
Im seeing the same results with those S&B 110 PTS bullets. They're just not putting them on the ground. I've lost my last 4 in a row them, in fact. I bought 300 from SGAmmo because I can't load my usual 120 SST's as cheap as I got those, and they had great reviews. Needless to say I'm done with them though. Back to the 120's.


I have fallen victim to the same decision (cost vs best option) and unfortunately more times then I care to recall your now going to be looking for a buyer and trying to recoup costs so you can try again ...

Tips - I have , as a frugal ammo buyer , Are based on the hunting situation for example:

If you're looking to send more than a couple of shots down range in quick succession - I.e. Semi-auto high capacity weapon. Consider buying a small quantity of the more moderately priced ammo (in the case 120gr SST) and then finding a cheap option (preferably brass cased) that shoots to near the same POI and load these cheaper cartridges below the top two rounds in the magazine.

The theory is that running follow up shots are lower percentage (hits) and typically/hopefully the animal is already wounded so you don't need full awesome-sauce , higher cost , ammo to get the job done.

Also evaluate your caliber realistically - again this is hunting situation dependent as well as weight of the gun and recoil but if your set on the caliber then find the absolute best bullet and make that your top of the magazine load.

Study the terminal energy numbers of your caliber/load and know what your getting so that expectations are inline and you don't end up blaming a bullet/load for what the gun was designed to be...

Example: energy at 200 yards for a few calibers -

223 Rem - 663 ft/lbs - 62 grain bullet

6.5 Grendel - 1183 ft/lbs 120 grain bullet

6.8 SPC - 1059 ft/lbs 115 grain bullet

6.5 Creedmoor - 1717 ft/lbs 140 grain bullet

308 Win - 1832 ft/lbs 150 grain bullet

300 Win Mag - 2659 ft/lbs 180 grain bullet

338 Federal - 2304 ft/lbs 200 grain bullet

So simply looking at numbers above - I would venture to say that your caliber (6.8 SPC) has good energy to be effective when shots ARE NOT placed (pin-point) in an already effective location. So outside of the SST being a better bullet than the S&B if you're still seeing hogs run after being shot then take a look at a higher energy caliber.

By the way hogs don't care what the numbers say and will run regardless of caliber BUT if we want to be technically accurate and do our best to use the right tool for the job then we have to at least know the baseline.

Note: I am so cheap (frugal/miser/tightwad) that when I watch hunting videos where the Hunter explains the bullet/ammo choice that I find myself shaking my head when follow up shots are being launched using 3.00 per cartridge ammo. It just baffles me.

So with that said don't take any of the above as a criticism of any particular caliber or ammo but rather just my designs and manipulation of data which allows me to sleep easier when spending my hard earned cash on ammo.




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Agreed to a point. I handload and shoot alot of 6mm and 6.8 projectiles in a couple different wildcats. I agree that it's purely a numbers games, even more so when you own a chronograph. You find yourself chasing better numbers all the time. That's why I generally grab my 6.8 when headed for the woods these days.

If you're doing an honest comparison by barrel length, dollar for dollar and pound for pound for pound, the spec2 6.8 chambering cannot be beat. Where I tend to disagree is that I believe bullet construction is what seals the deal over everything else on hogs. Maybe I got a bad lot, IDK? But in my short lived experience with these PTS bullets they are just too frangible for hogs. I mean (just like in DNS's video) upon impact the hogs are not even being knocked off their feet. My guess is complete jacket separation and lead core frag just beyond the skin. They're not driving deep enough. I've had better luck with handloaded 90 grain bonded gold dot bullets. The 120 grain SSTs give pass thru's.

I also bought some of those copper monolithic MKZ bullets that DNS uses. They look like they work ridiculously well on hogs. I may load some up and give those a try, but for now I'm just going to go back to what I know works to get them on the ground and keep them there. But the more I watch his videos the more I am tempted to try them. His Grendel is hammering them.

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