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Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 03:20 PM
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More specifically, have you ever missed getting a shot at a nice buck that you weren't able to pass as being legal before it was too late for a shot?
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 03:27 PM
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misunderstood your question.
Got it now and answer is NO.
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Funny thing about getting older: Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to see through people's BS gets much better.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 03:32 PM
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 03:37 PM
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 04:15 PM
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oh yes
the first one was the first year of this mess when it was "five on one side" at the wma's. i had one less than 10 yards that i could have killed with a garage sale bow and bent arrows, but it had it's head to where i couldn't see it properly. there has since been others that were big bodied deer that would be considered culls at a managed ranch.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 04:17 PM
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 04:22 PM
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Nice buck probably not many, a buck that needed to be culled I'm guessing yes.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 04:39 PM
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Yes, had one in front of me 2 years ago that was as tall as it was wide and havent seen him again. He was an 8 point that had 10-12" g2s and couldve only been about 10-11" wide. Id imagine a local didnt care how wide he was and thats why he hasnt been seen again.
And last year I had a nice 10 point come walking in at about 60 yards in real heavy fog. Couldnt figure out what deer he was. Then some hogs came from behind and he hauled butt through the field damn near running my pop up over.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 05:28 PM
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YEP! During the rut Bucks come through fast. I whistle or bleat to get them to alert and glass them. I had one that didn't even look up.
�A hunt based only on the trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.� -Fred Bear
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 05:33 PM
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Yes, we have one that is maybe 12 inches across, but very thick and very tall. It would be a nice trophy if legal.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 05:37 PM
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YEP! During the rut Bucks come through fast. I whistle or bleat to get them to alert and glass them. I had one that didn't even look up. That was the exact reasoning behind my OP, that it can be very difficult to determine if a buck is legal when he's passing thru and has other things on his mind. I've started another thread to discuss a possible solution to that problem.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 06:31 PM
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 07:06 PM
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YEP! During the rut Bucks come through fast. I whistle or bleat to get them to alert and glass them. I had one that didn't even look up. That was the exact reasoning behind my OP, that it can be very difficult to determine if a buck is legal when he's passing thru and has other things on his mind. I've started another thread to discuss a possible solution to that problem. If it is moving through that fast, you should not be slinging lead at it. You just end up with a bad shot and a wounded deer. Wait for a better opportunity.
Funny thing about getting older: Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to see through people's BS gets much better.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 07:08 PM
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YEP! During the rut Bucks come through fast. I whistle or bleat to get them to alert and glass them. I had one that didn't even look up. That was the exact reasoning behind my OP, that it can be very difficult to determine if a buck is legal when he's passing thru and has other things on his mind. I've started another thread to discuss a possible solution to that problem. If it is moving through that fast, you should not be slinging lead at it. You just end up with a bad shot and a wounded deer. Wait for a better opportunity. No one has implied taking poor shots. The OP and comments thus far have focused only on missed opportunities at getting a clean shot as a result of not being able to judge a buck BEFORE it was too late.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 07:56 PM
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If we ever come out of the MLD Program, it will be tough for the first few seasons to remember to consider that.
I already have to remind myself to not take a rifle with me on October hunts and that the season ends right after New Years elsewhere in the state.**
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 07:57 PM
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 08:01 PM
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I am all for AR but I wish it was like Missouri where it has to have 4 points on one side. If of a deer is trailing a doe you don't have time to tell how many inches he is but you will have time to see if it has 4 points on one side. It would also be a lot easier for the kids to tell too.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 08:04 PM
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No.
If this is an issue for you, I'd suggest checking into the MLD program. Our ranch is MLD3 and it extends the seasons and eliminates antler restrictions allowing you to cull bucks that need to be culled. I understand the purpose of AR's, but it just seems like another way the government is telling us how to live. The MLD program let's the management minded hunter make the decision. Works well for us.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 08:11 PM
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Oh yea. Last year was my first year deer hunting. I have a nice Remington 700 but it had a cheap Bushell Scope on it. The first morning out with my dad, we'd thrown corn around the edge of a field and saw a good sized deer walk out real early about 130 yards away. It was still dark enough, and my scope just bad enough, to not be able to get a read on him well enough to comfortably shoot. My dad couldn't tell either. After about 20 excruciatingly long minutes (probably more like 5) he started walking away from us with his head down right as the sun was starting to come up. At about the edge of the field, and about 200 yards away he looked up and turned his head and he was a big ol' buck - probably 10 pointer. Immediately jumped the fence and into the woods from there. That was the only deer we saw that 3 day weekend, and i spent the long drive home from Throckmorton to Houston quite distracted. I didnt regret not shooting though. While it was certainly a great buck in hindsight, at that time of the morning, at that distance, and with what i had to work with, it wasnt a shooter. I did quickly buy a nicer scope though...
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 08:30 PM
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No it has not caused me to miss a "shooter" buck but it has promoted a sense responsibility within many hunters that is good for the sport. The simple fact that a young buck gets a pass allows us to see what his potential might be. That is a good thing especially if the resources are not there to manage the deer any other way. The antler restrictions try to establish a baseline to which the deer herd can be built upon.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 09:11 PM
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No it has not caused me to miss a "shooter" buck but it has promoted a sense responsibility within many hunters that is good for the sport. The simple fact that a young buck gets a pass allows us to see what his potential might be. That is a good thing especially if the resources are not there to manage the deer any other way. The antler restrictions try to establish a baseline to which the deer herd can be built upon. Agreed. And the numbers of those who respond with "yes" just goes to show how many ethical sportsmen we have in our ranks. That was the intention of my OP, not to attack the current AR's, but to see how many hunters have let one get away, rather than shooting first and checking later.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 09:49 PM
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No it has not caused me to miss a "shooter" buck but it has promoted a sense responsibility within many hunters that is good for the sport. The simple fact that a young buck gets a pass allows us to see what his potential might be. That is a good thing especially if the resources are not there to manage the deer any other way. The antler restrictions try to establish a baseline to which the deer herd can be built upon. Agreed. And the numbers of those who respond with "yes" just goes to show how many ethical sportsmen we have in our ranks.That was the intention of my OP, not to attack the current AR's, but to see how many hunters have let one get away, rather than shooting first and checking later. I answered no, but it has nothing to do with ethics. I've honestly never had a bang-bang scenario where it was shoot or miss the opportunity, or a scenario where I couldn't truly determine if he was over 13". We don't have narrow genes on our place, but even then I only average about a buck every other year, because I'm looking for a mature deer. If you want to interpret the results as 'Yes = Ethical' then the question needs to be 'WOULD antler restrictions cost you a buck'. To that I would gladly answer yes. I'm not going to murder a deer and hope that he grows to meet ARs in the time I'm getting down and walking over.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 09:52 PM
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YEP! During the rut Bucks come through fast. I whistle or bleat to get them to alert and glass them. I had one that didn't even look up. That was the exact reasoning behind my OP, that it can be very difficult to determine if a buck is legal when he's passing thru and has other things on his mind. I've started another thread to discuss a possible solution to that problem. If it is moving through that fast, you should not be slinging lead at it. You just end up with a bad shot and a wounded deer. Wait for a better opportunity. That depends on the man behind the rifle. Plenty of people are capable of killing a moving animal.
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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And the numbers of those who respond with "yes" just goes to show how many ethical sportsmen we have in our ranks.
That was the intention of my OP, not to attack the current AR's, but to see how many hunters have let one get away, rather than shooting first and checking later.
Never shoot first and check later. Be darn sure of what your shooting before the safety ever comes off
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Re: Have antler restrictions ever cost you a nice buck?
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11/01/16 10:11 PM
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Nope
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