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How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? #5704578 04/17/15 03:05 PM
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How many fawns will a buck sire during a normal breeding season?


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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: BenBob] #5704599 04/17/15 03:12 PM
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Very few in reality.


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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: BenBob] #5704606 04/17/15 03:19 PM
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: BenBob] #5704641 04/17/15 03:36 PM
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Catch the buck you have in question. Strap one of those breeding markers you use on sheep on the buck to see how many does were bred by him at the end of the rut. Piece of cake.

Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: BenBob] #5704665 04/17/15 03:45 PM
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I was reading some of the research facts on one of the South Texas ranches used that the most fawns sired by a single buck during the study was 5 and that numerous sets of twins had different sires. I could have misread it, because that seems awfully low to me. Sort of makes you think twice about letting a good one go to spread his genes around.


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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: BenBob] #5704675 04/17/15 03:49 PM
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IMO the key is to have more than one good buck in the herd.


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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: stxranchman] #5704694 04/17/15 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
IMO the key is to have more than one good buck in the herd.


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Everyone passes up that mature buck thinking he is gonna knock up every doe in the pasture, and that's just not the case

If he bred 3 does a year from 3-6 years old he has anywhere from 9-12 fawns if 100% fawn crop.

So in real life how many fawns did he really have in his life? 3-4,5-6 tops?


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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: BenBob] #5704697 04/17/15 03:58 PM
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Genetics are not 100% guaranteed to carry to offspring, the doe has something to do with it also. So how do you know which doe throws good bucks?

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Originally Posted By: spg
Genetics are not 100% guaranteed to carry to offspring, the doe has something to do with it also. So how do you know which doe throws good bucks?

If your bucks all look like you want them to then the does should have the same genetics. Key will always be younger does.


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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: cameron00] #5704738 04/17/15 04:17 PM
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lol that was very specific man popcorn

Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: BenBob] #5704763 04/17/15 04:28 PM
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I've read the same research, shows 6 to 7 on the top end. B to D ratio probably has alot to do with it too. Those does will get bred. It's just a matter of how hard the bucks run to do it.

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Im sure in the right environment they could take care of 20 doe pretty easy.

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In the right environment they can take care a whole lot more than 20..


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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: BenBob] #5705981 04/18/15 03:30 AM
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But research said the most fawns sired by a single buck was 5.
There is a lot of difference between breeding 20 does and siring 5 fawns.


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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: BenBob] #5706220 04/18/15 02:33 PM
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In a high deer population with high doe/buck and lots of food/cover those doe are not breeding themselves.. pretty common to see 5:1 even 8:1 ratios in Tx.

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but yes living sired fawns are going to be lower... which I think was the question meh

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Originally Posted By: spg
Genetics are not 100% guaranteed to carry to offspring, the doe has something to do with it also. So how do you know which doe throws good bucks?
yep - 50% of the outcome is the doe


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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: Navasot] #5706976 04/19/15 06:08 AM
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Im sure in the right environment they could take care of 20 doe pretty easy.


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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year??? [Re: BenBob] #5709074 04/20/15 10:56 PM
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they will breed 3 to 5 does.

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You know I talked to wife about breeding with multiple does. I tried to explain it was just for sport. It did not go well... back


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Originally Posted By: DustyWyoming
they will breed 3 to 5 does.


If they only breed 3 to 5 doe, how come the bucks lose so much weight at that time. Just ask'in

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Originally Posted By: wilhunt
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they will breed 3 to 5 does.


If they only breed 3 to 5 doe, how come the bucks lose so much weight at that time. Just ask'in

They can be in the chase posse on several other does. A lot of the bucks will not eat very much once the rut starts since they are moving around looking for does, checking scrapes and chasing does. IMO they need to loose weight since with less body weight they are in better shape.


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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
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Genetics are not 100% guaranteed to carry to offspring, the doe has something to do with it also. So how do you know which doe throws good bucks?

If your bucks all look like you want them to then the does should have the same genetics. Key will always be younger does.


What exactly do you mean by "Key will always be younger does."? Do you mean we should be taking younger does vs older, or take older and leave the younger? Or something else?

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Genetics are not 100% guaranteed to carry to offspring, the doe has something to do with it also. So how do you know which doe throws good bucks?

If your bucks all look like you want them to then the does should have the same genetics. Key will always be younger does.


What exactly do you mean by "Key will always be younger does."? Do you mean we should be taking younger does vs older, or take older and leave the younger? Or something else?

What I mean is if you like the bucks that are doing the breeding then those bucks offspring will be directly related to them. Those offspring should then be allowed to breed and reproduce. So the younger does should be more desirable. When I am shooting does under this management plan, I will make sure that any doe I shoot has a fawn by her side and not shoot does without a fawn(usually young). This way you are continuing the allow the genetics you like to breed and reproduce. The younger the doe herd the better off you will be IMO.


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Originally Posted By: wilhunt
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they will breed 3 to 5 does.


If they only breed 3 to 5 doe, how come the bucks lose so much weight at that time. Just ask'in


All the bucks in an area competing for the same does and all the running, fighting, etc. will cause the buck to lose weight. Also, if he is concentrating on breeding, he is passing up meals that he would normally partake of.


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