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hunting license - buying a shotgun #6409044 08/15/16 05:39 PM
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Hello everyone, I'm an international student on F1 visa. I'm trying to buy a shotgun to continue my training in shooting ranges for upcoming competitions. I did my hunting safety course and I believe I also need a hunting license to be able to buy a gun. So my question is, Can I buy a shotgun being on F1 visa? I've been reading and researching a lot but couldn't find a clear answer. Can I get a hunting license if I don't have a SSN?

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You do NOT need a hunting license to purchase a weapon of any kind.

Your Visa status and home country may be bigger issues. Even though you may be able to buy a weapon, some vendors might chose not to sell to you.

Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6409118 08/15/16 06:44 PM
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I had a client come in from out of the country, we were able to get him a fishing license with his passport number. We didn't try for the hunting license but I'm sure he could have gotten it too. As far as buying a firearm, I could not tell you if it's even possible for you to purchase one.


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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6409140 08/15/16 06:59 PM
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Why don't you just call Texas Parks and Wildlife or your local law enforcement office and ask them what you need?


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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Curtis] #6409163 08/15/16 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: Curtis
Why don't you just call Texas Parks and Wildlife or your local law enforcement office and ask them what you need?


The Hunting License is a State issue.
A foreign national purchasing a firearm probably has overlapping State and Federal issues.

Tread lightly my friend.

Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6409179 08/15/16 07:31 PM
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I don't think he can buy a gun....

Read the 4473 specifically definition provided in 11.1b

Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6409364 08/15/16 09:14 PM
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This is what I found: So I guess the only exception I could probably fall within is the first one which needs a hunting license.

Question 12 on ATF Form 4473
An alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa is not prohibited from purchasing, receiving, or possessing a firearm if the alien falls within one of the following exceptions:
(1) is in possession of a hunting license or permit lawfully issued by the Federal Government, a State, or local government, or an Indian tribe federally recognized by the Bureau of Indian Affairs, which is valid and unexpired;
(2) was admitted to the United States for lawful hunting or sporting purposes;
(3) has received a waiver from the prohibition from the Attorney General of the United States;
(4) is an official representative of a foreign government who is accredited to the United States Government or the Government’s mission to an international organization having its headquarters in the United States;
(5) is en route to or from another country to which that alien is accredited;
(6) is an official of a foreign government or a distinguished foreign visitor who has been so designated by the Department of State; or
(7) is a foreign law enforcement officer of a friendly foreign government entering the United States on official law enforcement business.

Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6411155 08/16/16 08:37 PM
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This is directly from the TWPD license website... so you don't have a social but do you have one of those other criteria?




Sorry should have explained this is what you would need to get a hunting license... so it seems if you were able to get that then you would fit under category number 1

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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6412807 08/17/16 08:20 PM
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had this come up with a girl in the office trying to by a hand gun here on a work visa, was told to go buy a hunting license


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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6414595 08/18/16 09:07 PM
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I don't believe that you can buy a gun in the US on a student visa, which is a temporary visa.
You can buy a gun in the US as a gal alien if you are here on a long term visa and have established a permanent resident Ina state and can supply the necessary documentation such as six months utility bills, state drivers license or official ID orUS military ID.

Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6415258 08/19/16 04:21 AM
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Hmmm Im gonna try to get a hunting license and try to by a shotgun and see how it goes. Thank's everyone and will let you informed if they let buy one or not

Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6415406 08/19/16 12:23 PM
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I'm surprised that Question 12 subpart #5 is allowed. The hunting license loophole seems mighty ambiguous to me. Interested in how you are handled.


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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6415550 08/19/16 01:48 PM
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I wonder if the op will post an update to their conumdrum? Sounds more like a baited question, instead of anything legit. Otherwise, wouldn't they just call the experts for their answers? confused2

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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6417124 08/20/16 07:47 PM
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do what the gang bangers do ---------- go to a gun show.

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You can buy from a non FFL.

Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: Nas] #6418053 08/21/16 02:59 PM
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Quote:
You do NOT need a hunting license to purchase a weapon of any kind.

Incorrect, most do need a hunting license per ATF

You WILL likely need to purchase a hunting license first, I have a friend in a similar situation and a hunting license is needed if you are on certain visa(perm) types.

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Re: hunting license - buying a shotgun [Re: dune2218] #6419448 08/22/16 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: dune2218
do what the gang bangers do ---------- go to a gun show.


Remember, FFL dealers still have to do background checks even at gunshows. The only non-background check is from individual to individual... and that doesn't have to be at a gun show, can be through any means of contact.

On the original question, it looks like a personal sale would be prohibited to a non-resident:

From the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, & Firearms (ATF) website, "Frequently asked Questions"
(link below quote)

2. May I lawfully transfer a firearm to a friend who resides in a different State?

Under Federal law, an unlicensed individual is prohibited from transferring a firearm to an individual
who does not reside in the State where the transferee resides. Generally, for a person to lawfully
transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a
Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then
receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background
check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html. The GCA provides an exception from this
prohibition for temporary loans or rentals of firearms for lawful sporting purposes. Thus, for
example, a friend visiting you may borrow a firearm from you to go hunting. Another exception is
provided for transfers of firearms to nonresidents to carry out a lawful bequest or acquisition by
intestate succession. This exception would authorize the transfer of a firearm to a nonresident who
inherits a firearm under the will of a decedent. See 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(5).


https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/0501-firearms-top-10-qaspdf/download

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