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.45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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Got a old 45 cal Kentucky lon rifle from my granddad when he passed a few years ago and looking for some advise. I shot quite a bit years ago and thinking about getting her out to the deer woods this year. I't just the basic powder, patch and ball setup... I keep hearing to use 60 grains of blackpowder, agree? Thoughts? Advice? Years ago I could put them in a paper plate up to 100 yards with the ole iron sights but for the life of me, I can't remember what I was using.
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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60 grains sounds good for a .45 cal patch and ball set up. I use 70 grains out of my .50 cal T/C Renegade with .490 round ball and .15 patches. I use Pyrodex which is synthetic black powder. Is yours a flint lock or a cap lock? I have a cap lock.
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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I had a T/C sidelock .45 it was percussion cap, not flint. I used black powder, 100 grains over a .45 grain minnie ball. I believe the Minnie ball was 280 grains.
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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I have a .45 CVA Kentucky cap and ball rifle that I've had since mid 70's. When I shoot round balls, using either greased patches or plastic wadding, I charge with 60 gr 3Fg black powder. It's surprisingly accurate with round balls and iron sights. I also have a CVA .50 cal Hawken Rifle.
They are both fun to shoot.
Cheers, Vern1 Texans since The Old 300 in 1824 NRA Lifetime Member
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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Hey, if any of you guys shooting the real stuff need a can or 2 just pm me. I mainly have Goex and Elephant FF. I might have some FFF too, but I'd have to look.
Press for an AMERICAN.
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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My next rifle is going to be a T/C Hawken. My buddy has one that I have shot and I like the longer barrel on the Hawken's. Would be great for maxi-balls.
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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Hey, if any of you guys shooting the real stuff need a can or 2 just pm me. I mainly have Goex and Elephant FF. I might have some FFF too, but I'd have to look. I have some Pyrodex powder and pellet,sabots and aerotips.
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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Are you looking to get rid of yours too, Hangfire?
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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Are you looking to get rid of yours too, Hangfire? Yes
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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I have a .45 CVA Kentucky cap and ball rifle that I've had since mid 70's. When I shoot round balls, using either greased patches or plastic wadding, I charge with 60 gr 3Fg black powder. It's surprisingly accurate with round balls and iron sights. I also have a CVA .50 cal Hawken Rifle.
They are both fun to shoot.
Thanks Vern1
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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Had a CVA Kentucky 45 cal percussion years ago and it shot best with 75 grains of loose black powder, a 5 shot group at 100 yards was the size of a quarter with patched round balls or real bullets. Sure wished I had not lost it when the house burned down.
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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. if not mistaken i used a 45gr measure on my flask with my .45 kentucky rifle... it like phone #'s, speed dial, just grab measure.. Several years back, forgot ta switch measure on my flask, for my .44 bp pistol, it uses .22gr... culled a hog with it, bout 15 yrds.. Didnt go very far... Taken deer in Minnesota, they tend ta be heavier in body wieght, with the 45gr. measure out ta 50-60yrds... After so many gr. ya just get more smoke & kick... Just gotta find right amount of gr. works best in your .45... As pappy once said: keep your head held high & your powder dry ... They fun ta shoot, got two .45 kentucky, a .44 pistol & a New Orleans ace..
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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. . .After so many gr. ya just get more smoke & kick... Just gotta find right amount of gr. works best in your .45 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ good advice ^ ^ ^ my t/c book and my pedersoli book are about split on between 50 - 75 grains of 3F for a PRB. i believe i'd start at 50 and work up. YMMV good luck
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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01/29/17 02:24 PM
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When I had a 45 Kentucky rifle, the man I got it from said just use a patched round ball with a 308 Winchester case full of 3F powder and he included several cases to use. In that rifle it shot well enough I never looked for another load. Water capacity of a 308 Win case is 56gr when filled to the case mouth. Would fill a few cases and tape over the mouth with electrical tape for premeasured loads when hunting.
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lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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Interesting! I just happen to have several 308 casings laying around the house
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Re: .45 Kentucky Long Rifle Powder Charge?
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The bottle necked cartridge also makes it easy to pour the powder down the barrel without spillage
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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