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Rossi 357 Lever Carbine #5990643 10/23/15 05:47 PM
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Would you purchase a Rossi 357 Lever Action Model 92 Carbine? Any suggestions and or answers would be greatly appreciated.

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Yes, but only for a fair price. Check gun broker to see what they are selling for before you buy.

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16" pre-safety Rossi 92 all day long. up


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Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.

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Originally Posted By: TexFlip
16" pre-safety Rossi 92 all day long. up


Yes I would and they sell a replacement part for that cheap safety.

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I have a R92 chambered in 357 Mag, it is the scout rifle. Love it, killed deer & hogs with it. I also have a 44 Mag, 45 Colt, 454 Casull, and 480 Ruger all configured as scouts. I was and still am a Marlin guy but I got into these rifles and found them to be very accurate. The steel is well finished but the stocks are plain and unsealed. They do respond quickly to a Tru-Oil finish, just a couple of coats.

The picture below was taken on my range a couple of weeks ago and I get a kick out of it. A fellow called me and asked if he and another could use my range as they were leaving on an elk hunt. I didn't have a problem with it and they banged away all morning with a 280 Rem and 30-06. That evening, I decided to go check the scope zero on the R92 357 Mag and noticed they left a cardboard target up on the 100-yard berm. I went up and patched all the holes, while shaking my head, and then fired three rounds of my 175-grain bullets from the Rossi at 100 yards.



With the 357 Mag, I shoot .360" round balls for critter control and then I have three different bullets of my design for different purposes. The far right bullet, the 190-grain is interesting. I have to use a 38 Spl case so that the crimp groove lines up on the case mouth and the OAL works out but I do load it to 357 Mag pressures.


I size all the cast bullets at .358".


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Why is everybody talking about what I want? Three topics in a week.

Gosh.....


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That scout lever is SLICK!


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I really hate to do what I am about to do, because it will be very painful for you.


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I had a 44 that was just fine.


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I once had a stainless Rossi model 92 in .357 magnum. It required some slicking up, I got it to where I could work the action with just my little finger. A Peep sight replaced the bolt-mounted safety.

It was a fun gun to shoot, but somebody talked me out of it. - They kept waving money at me.


Kind regards, charlesb


Re: Rossi 357 Lever Carbine [Re: Dalee7892] #6003878 10/31/15 11:36 PM
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Decided to shoot my 35 Rem bullet mentioned above, the TLC359-190-RF, with my R92 chambered in 357 Mag. 38 Spl brass has to be used otherwise the additional bullet length cannot be accommidated within the confines of the 357 Mag chamber. I do load to 357 Mag pressures.

Here is my 100 yard target...



Made the two clicks up and right without shooting again and went out still hunting on my ranch. Came across a nice bore tearing up the ground in one of my quail habitat project pastures. Eased up on him, knelt, and shot him from 80 yards behind the shoulder. The bullet & load knocked him down and he was DRT.



That 35 Rem bullet sure makes a pretty cartridge for the 357 Mag!



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KY Guns has some Rossi blems. If I was buying one I sure would consider it.

http://www.kygunco.com/category.cfm/keenes/Taurus-BLEM/InStockOnly/Yes


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Re: Rossi 357 Lever Carbine [Re: Dalee7892] #6004261 11/01/15 12:07 PM
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Do I see 15.5 gr Lil Gun?


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I actually just picked up an R92 on monday in stainless with the 16" barrel.

I don't do handloads for it at the moment, but even with some old (I mean old) red box SJHP .38 specials it was really accurate at around 30 yards.

I shot some jugs to test it out but they didn't move after 3 shots. Thought I had missed so I went to look, the shots had gone where I aimed and passed over the water so they hadn't expanded. Took another shot at the water section and the dang thing went flying.

Action could be a little smoother and I'll be restaining the wood, but I love it.

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Originally Posted By: GasGuzzler
Do I see 15.5 gr Lil Gun?

Yeah, that is what I'm using and it should only be used in a Rossi 92. The primers have rounded edges and there is no signs of excessive pressure. I have pressure trace equipment but I haven't put a strain gauge on the rifle and have no plans to. QuickLoad calculates the pressure at 41.1K PSI. I haven't even had time to chronograph it but will do that this week. QL indicates that it will be 1770 FPS.

The CIP standard for the cartridge is 43.5K PSI/3000 bar

I was shooting it with 15.0-grains of Lil'Gun but the accuracy wasn't that good. All the Rossi 92s us a 1:30 twist; 357 Mag to 480 Ruger, so I figured it just needed to be pushed harder. That did the trick.

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That's crazy accuracy out of what most would consider a "cheap" lever action. Hows the recoil on that load?

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Originally Posted By: Ranch Dog
Decided to shoot my 35 Rem bullet mentioned above, the TLC359-190-RF, with my R92 chambered in 357 Mag. 38 Spl brass has to be used otherwise the additional bullet length cannot be accommidated within the confines of the 357 Mag chamber. I do load to 357 Mag pressures.

Here is my 100 yard target...



Made the two clicks up and right without shooting again and went out still hunting on my ranch. Came across a nice bore tearing up the ground in one of my quail habitat project pastures. Eased up on him, knelt, and shot him from 80 yards behind the shoulder. The bullet & load knocked him down and he was DRT.



That 35 Rem bullet sure makes a pretty cartridge for the 357 Mag!



Which comb raiser is on the rifle?


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Originally Posted By: TheWhiteMexican
That's crazy accuracy out of what most would consider a "cheap" lever action. Hows the recoil on that load?

About 75% of your run of the mill 30-30 Win load.


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Originally Posted By: Ranch Dog
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That's crazy accuracy out of what most would consider a "cheap" lever action. Hows the recoil on that load?

About 75% of your run of the mill 30-30 Win load.


That was not a bad guess but my reload software records this kind of stuff so I looked it up.

The Rossi 92 357 Mag with 15.5 grains of Lil'Gun and the TLC359-190-RF at 1770 FPS produces 6.73 ft/lbs of recoil energy.

My Glenfield 30GT 30-30 Win with 35.3-grains of BL-C(2) and my TLC311-165-RF scooting along at 2160 FPS produces 11.26 ft/lbs of recoil energy.

So 60% of a full load 30-30 Win.

In another topic on this forum I mentioned how I see a lot of youth hunters on their first hunts on my place. If they don't have a rifle and are a local kid, I start them in the summer with a Marlin 1894CL chambered in 32-20 Win and then move them to the R92 357 Mag scout with the 175-grain bullet. Those kids never have a problem, shoot extremely well with fear of recoil, and become levergun nuts.


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Have said it before and sure will again, the 357mag makes for a great youth cartridge in a rifle sized for them and the lever actions often fit that bill. Inside 125 yards I am as comfortable with a 357 as any other cartridge for deer and hogs. Depending on the load recoil is about like a 223 or slightly more and effects on game is much better IMO.

Like the looks of those bullets Ranch Dog as well as lots of your other designs. but never got into casting my on bullets. When Nosler discontinued the 180gr partition I bought several hundred of them since they have worked very well on deer and hogs and are accurate in my Marlin.


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Originally Posted By: booradley
Which comb raiser is on the rifle?

It is the original synthetic cheek piece that the XX-002 rifles (the scout rifles) were sold with. It is the same piece that is used on the single shots. The R92 has a very low comb so without the cheek piece you have to roll your head up a bit and the heavy recoil cartridges will just knock the snot out of you.

The only rifle offered now with the mount is the 57-002 which is a 357 Mag but they don't include the cheek piece any more. All the round barrel rifles are drilled & tapped for a scope mount but Rossi has not stocked the bases for better than a year. Through my Rossi Rifleman forum and my association with NOE Bullet Molds, there should soon be a US source of base when NOE starts producing them.

Rossi used to sell a complete scout kit that contained the base and cheek piece. I found one new, old stock, and used it to "scout" my R92 454 Casull. I also made my 480 Ruger into a scout and bought the piece through Rossi Customer Service.



They are not for everybody but out of the huge number of rifles I own, they tend to be my go to rifles.


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Here is my 454 Casull that I made into a scout to include the 92 correct saddle ring.



Since this picture was taken I've enlarged the lever loop slightly because this heavy recoil rifle felt like it was going to break the knuckle on the forward finger in the loop.



The above picture is a good view of the saddle ring I drilled & seated myself. Most don't understand what a saddle ring was really used for. It isn't to secure the rifle to a saddle or scabbard but to secure the rifle to your body with a saddle ring sling. The name derives from keeping the firearms secured to you while in the saddle.

The sling slides across your body. You will never find a move shootable and useful sling than the saddle ring sling.


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All of those 92s are factory wood with just a couple coats of oil?

I really need to do mine, the wood is atrocious. Looks like a children's toy.

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Originally Posted By: TheWhiteMexican
All of those 92s are factory wood with just a couple coats of oil?

Yes, factory wood finished with Tru-Oil

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I really need to do mine, the wood is atrocious. Looks like a children's toy.

Yeah it is a very basic finish. The good thing about the Rossi is that you can do just about anything you want with it.

The wood is Rubberwood which is a Brazilian hardwood. The stain they use is water based and you can actually wash it off. While on a nilgai hunt, I've had a thunderstorm spot the finish on my Rio Grande 45-70 and have heard of other that have had the stain come off from the sweat on their cheek (they also had a red cheek). I've finished the stocks on quite a few Rossi rifles, beyond the 92 to include the Circuit Judges, Rio Grandes, Single Shots, and Wizards and they are all the same.

I simple wash off the existing finish, use the Tru-Oil Walnut Stain full strength and then hand rub three coats of the Tru-Oil into the stock, drying between the stain and each coat. All the wood has been very well prepped. All has need is to be rubbed down with 0000 steel wool and a tack cloth. This is very quick work, the drying is the only thing that takes time.

I think the metal work is well done. The bluing is always deep. The chamber cuts have always been correct to SAAMI as verified with casts and the barrel diameters are on spec; both bore and groove.


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