Anyone have one of these in a halfton Chevy or GMC. Having good luck with it?

It won’t haul loads like the hd trucks. If you’re using it for normal 1/2 ton Stuff they get great mileage. Everyone I know that has one loves it.

My son has a '21 with about 80K miles. He had one minor problem early on and it was fixed under warranty. He made a number of trips to El Paso and back in '21 and he sometimes got 30 mpg running 75mph. His biggest issue had been finding a dealer had the correct oil and filter for oil changes. He hasn't said anything lately so maybe that is no longer an issue but at one time he was on his third Chevy dealer just trying to find a dealer with the correct oil and filter in stock for his previously scheduled appointment!

Not many issues with them in the field but when they go out of warranty, you'd better hold on for dear life.

Why is that?

I've got a '22 GMC Sierra Crew 4x4 and love it over the first 22k miles. No problems, runs and drives great, tows my 30ft TT easily, and has averaged 23.4 over it's life. Set the cruise on 70 and 30mpg is rather easy.

I have a a 24 model TrailBoss ordered. Couldnt get the Max Trailering package on the TrailBoss. Hopefully the 10speed trans will do what they say it will do when towing with 3:23 gears.

I'm about 6 weeks into my 23 TrailBoss and will see what the 3.0 does when I haul my Tacoma to Laredo. I went up a little in tire size and still getting about 27 on the highway. So far it's living up to my expectations.

Literally 2x what I get in my F250. I said I would never buy another chevy/gmc, oh I hate crow

My same situation BOBO. I drive a F350 to pull with so the 3.0 Duramax will mostly just be to do light hauling and travel in. That mileage got my attention.

You tell ‘em Bobos!!!!

I am happy so far with my 23 AT4 and like others said the MPG is hard to beat.

Curious about that too. The first model year was what 2019? Vast majority produced are still under warranty. Look under the hood of any modern vehicle… out of warranty they are all pain in the azz.

The 3.0 is looking pretty good.

I wish Ford would come back out with a 1/2 ton diesel

Or you could just buy a Chevy lol

Every GM vehicle I’ve owned I’ve had issues with. Mostly little chincy stuff but still.

Not saying my Fords are infallible but it seems GM quality isn’t what Ford is.

When it’s time to change trucks I will be giving the AT4 a look with with the 3.0 though. I’m about done driving a 3/4 ton everywhere

I actually prefer the way a GM vehicle drives over a Ford, I just don’t believe they are built as tough. I also prefer the GM interior.

been looking a little at the Tahoe with the baby duromax a bit ... what kind of towing capacity do these have? Enough for a lite (6kish) travel trailer?

My wife's Traverse with towing package is rated for 5,000 pounds and does an okay job with our lighter stuff including our boat (5k-ish) but I feel like the old dog and tail situation (tail wagging the dog). She really doesn't want to move up to that big of a vehicle but she might consider if it would work with our TT to have seating for grandkids on camping trips over my truck (Cummins 2500).

Her Traverse gets pretty good mileage with 25+ highway, 19ish around town with mixed 21-22ish and the medium size allows her comfort for parking around town. It's a great fit but underwhelming with the towing but seating for 7 fits the bill.

Yeah they will do 6,000 lbs pretty solid. The truck version is rated to 8-9k I believe. Had an over max load 7000 lb dump trailer behind my father in-laws for a while and it towed it really well.

I’m not anti ford at all. Really like some of their stuff. My commuter is my wife’s old escape with almost 200,000 miles on it. Oil and filters and one set of spark plugs and that’s it.

My coworker has been a ford only driver his whole life and said his next won’t be, can’t get parts for his current ecoboost.

And the Duramax comes with a PT 5YR/100K warranty.

Ford dumped the diesel because the hybrid. I read somewhere this week that Chebby has set a sunset date on the little diesel too, I just can't remember (because I wasn't interested) what it was. Might be 24 is the last year for them...those on the fence better jump if that is what you want.

Anything is expensive to fix out of warranty but the diesel stuff is stoopid to fix. They have priced the guys who don't really need them out of the market (maintenance alone), myself included. Example...just a few weeks ago BigPig was complaining about his $110+ oil change in his Dodge...mine was $30 in the gas burning v10 2 months ago...it's gotten dumb and it was dumb before the politicians started their spending.

$100 oil changes are bothering me.

It’s the fuel cost, the drive ability and mileage.

If I can get 25-30 mpg it would make a lot of sense.

I don’t tow super heavy, my boat is 4600# and my trailers 4200# & 3800#.

Only caveat is if I had to move my tractor I would need the 3/4 ton diesel but I’ve only had to move it once in 3 years.

If you think the GMC interior is nice, you should check out the Laramie, Limited, and Longhorn interiors from Ram. The only GMC interior that comes close is the Denali Ultimate.

You love you some ram nuts.

You keep telling 'em Bobos!!!!!!

have you considered a part time job on Fridays? Shaved Ice hut?

Perry's lunch chop was on point today!!!!!!! I only counted 7 jacked up Dodge diesel Longhorns in valet, and I think only 5 of the dudes driving them had down syndrome.

Well, went ahead and got things rolling on an order for a 2024 AT4 1500 with the baby Duramax.

Priced an exact replacement for my current Super Duty Tremor and it was damn near $90k. I'll pass on a SD at those prices.

Only pause i have is the 8800 # towing capacity, I could go with the SLE and get a 12,000# capacity, same price as the AT4 but would have to put money in it to get the off road features I need.


I think it will suffice for pulling what I need to pull most days, when its empty will be a lot more pleasant to drive.

txtrophy85 did they give you an estimate on how long it will take to get the truck? Just hoping GM doesnt go on strike sept. 15th.

They said 5-9 months. I don’t need or even want it this year, but will need to get into something new next year and ordering one seems to be the preferred way to buy vs. going to dealerships hoping they have something suitable on the lot.

They need to make at4x with 3.0, 50gal tank and full sized bed.

50 gal tank and 8’ bed = F350.

That would completely negate the point of the truck.


Thr AT4X is about $90k as well. It’s nuts

Because of the complexity and the packaging. Nearly the entire front clip has to come off to access the AC compressor or accessories. The wiper system and cowling has to come off to service the intake manifold (some are loose/cracked but rare) and much of the emissions system, the oil pump belt maintenance requires removal of the transmission, and the injection pump is buried under just about everything. The AT4 is "lifted" hence the lower towing capacity. The 6.2L direct injection gas engine has been capable of 10K+ since 2014...and maintenance consists of changing the oil. Make sure and change your diesel fuel filter (gas doesn't have one) every other oil change and make sure you buy fresh DEF (gas doesn't have it) from the dealer.

I have never priced the oil pump belt job. But it is required at 100K (if memory serves) and is not covered under warranty. I'll try and get that price today.

Is there a reason I should pass on the 3.0 duramax?

I’ve driven diesels for the past 6 years so I’m familiar with the maintenance….this is more for fuel mileage and hopefully a little better resale over gas.

I drive around 50k miles a year so both are important.

I cant stand the 24gal on a 15’ f250

You have to remember it's a 6 cylinder, oil changes aren't bad in my area, $60 at the dealership. My I10 mileage was 27 mpg after putting on the next bigger tire size, my range at that mpg is over 600 miles with the 24 gal tank, I'll need to take a leak before I run out of fuel. You can do the math on the savings. Maybe take a look at the Chevy's and save a little coin, my 2023 3.0 is an LT Trailboss with not much missing, I have the safety package with all the cameras and gizmos. 2024 should be the same price as the 23's from what I saw when I bought mine. Sticker on mine was 68K.

I think the ZR2 will be offered with the 3.0 in 2024.

I’ve heard nothing but good about them. And I want to say they raised the mileage to 200 on the oil pump belt. Only complaint I’ve seen is the oil is hard to get.

Savings on fuel mileage?

So current price of gas is what? $3.46 compared to diesel @ $3.92 (https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=TX)

Using your 27 mpg X 24 gal fuel tank = 648 miles. Cost of fuel $94.08
Using 16mpg (my gas burner) X 24 gal fuel tank = 384 miles. Cost of fuel $83.04
Difference in miles = 264 miles, so an additional 16.5 gallons of fuel to equal the diesel or $57.09 in dollars.
Savings = ($83.04+$57.09) - $94.08 or $46.05

But is that really savings? How much more did that diesel option cost vs the gas engine? $2500 option? (https://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/0...ast-2500-for-3-0l-duramax-diesel-engine/)
So, that's an additional 54 tanks of fuel ($2500/$46.05) to equal apples to apples or 35,179 miles before you are saving money.

That's excluding the increased maintenance of a diesel over a gas and other stuff such as DEF. Also assumes the delta in price difference of the fuel remains the same.

Fuel mileage was only one of my factors, and maybe I'm still using that to justify my purchase , but mine has to pull occasionally and I wasn't going 3/4 ton or some small turbo gas engine. The diesel option is $795 more than the 5.3 option and less than the 6.2 option, GM wants you to buy that micro turbo, every time you go up an engine there's another surcharge. I also traded in a Tundra that was getting 11.2 mpg. So for me the choice was right. I see what your saying but my gap so to speak was larger than your example.

Pretty good way to took at it. I doubt I would get 16 mpg in my rig, my wifes 2wd barely gets that in the 6.2, but say I can get 16 mpg.

By that math model I would break even within the first year. Everything after that is a savings. I'm not saving money now by driving a diesel in my current set up but would be saving money on fuel by 3rd quarter of the first year on the 3.0 diesel halfton

Heard the same thing on the 200k maintenance. Also, I get my oil and filters at Rockauto.com. I either change it myself or take the oil and filter to the local mom and pop and pay them $30 and have them do it.

I personally don't give a crap about all the math calculations. I freaking love mine, and it runs circles around any 1/2T gasoline version I've ever owned, and that includes every brand made. I'd buy another in a heartbeat.

DEF is from the Devil!

I am loving mine as well although i am still breaking mine in. I have 3k on it and i am still showing over half full on my DEF gauge.

Is the oil and filter that hard to come by still or was that a 21' issue? I am about to change mine early for the first change but will probably use the dealer for the 1st free oil change promo they have going on.

10-4. No real point in my rambling other than I’ve never really been able to justify the cost of a diesel other than I want it.

Order from Rockauto.com. 7 qts of AC Delco 0-20w Dexos D and your filter costs about $65 shipped to your door.

Well no production last week due to continued parts shortage on the half ton Chevy and GMC and now the possibility of a strike next week makes me wonder how long it might take to get a pickup.

The dealership said they had one coming.....guess that what the hold up is on the "mostly" completed truck

Some assembly required.....

‘24 the AT4x is being offered in 3.0. 35 gal tank, 700-900 mile range ain't to shabby

smart, its not a baja truck as suspension travel is better then regular but no where close to trx or raptor, but does have front locker. If it had regular sized 6’6 ish bed Id buy.

We have a '24 ZR2 3.0L. Came in yesterday.

whats the color

I love mine and so do all of my hunting buds that own the 3.0, have had 6 Z71 trucks starting in 1994 and this one is close to my favorite. Close.

lots or wiring harness issues and diesel emissions issues. some just won't stay gone.

18 months and 25k of 100% trouble free and very enjoyable use. I'd buy another in a heartbeat.

Mine finally came into dealership. Little over 4 months. Sent out for some add ons. Was told they dont have a frontend replacement for a 24 1500 with the diesel.

I think that one was white. I think we have a couple more now but one might be a 6.2L.


Lots? There is a poorly written TSB that includes 2.7 gas, 5.3/6.2 gas, 3.0 diesel for wiring harness issues and it pulls up in search FOR EVERY DTC possible and we've seen ONE. Emissions? I had one with a wire broken to an EGR sensor and we've seen one loose intake and one cracked intake. That's not "lots" in my book.

They don't have them for 2500-3500's either.

Wont be out until March/April I'm told

I have a 2020 3.0 and I’m about to hit 100k and I’ve not had one issue with it.

I absolutely love this truck and will run it until it doesn’t run any longer.

I tow a bass boat all over Texas with it and it’s effortless.

They told me they would be out before deer season when i asked back in April. They just keep pushing back the dates as I dont really think they know when they will be out.

I’ve been hearing March/April.

I’m having a hard time understanding how they have them for Fords but not GM

Because GM makes their front ends plastic and complicated as hell vs ford and Dodge

The GM’s are plastic and the Fords are metal with the constitution of a beer can.

I would think the design and engineering at ranch hand, road armor, etc. would have an inside track to have units available when production commences.

They did come out with the regular bumper last week but IMO too heavy for a IFS front end. I am a big fan of the summit series and have had them on my last two trucks

I don’t know about Chevy, but I know that ranch hand didn’t get any new superduty trucks to design with until the public did.

Have had my 2024 Trailboss for 4 months and to my disappointment i just lost an argument with my wife about the passenger seat not being electric. Told the dealer what i thought about having ordered the nice interior with Bucket seat package, leather and infotainment package and did not get electric passenger seat for the wife. Mainly miss the lumbar. Has anyone did an aftermarket upgrade or do you have to buy a new seat. It has the wiring harness underneath.

You likely cannot add the option. Won't be able to get an entire seat from GM and if you could, it would be $3K. Very outside chance you could find a recycled seat same color and trim with the proper options and install it ... and have all the electrical work.