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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: maximus_flavius] #7247159 08/06/18 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
“The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government” - Tacitus


I blame the chair lobbyists. grin

Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: Grizz] #7247296 08/06/18 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: Grizz
How in the world did we go from writing a ticket for a shotgun plug to murdering millions of innocent people just because they're Jewish? rolleyes


How we got there is: This is the THF and dove season doesn't start for another 3 weeks. roflmao roflmao

It is kind of like cabin fever up north the last weeks of winter, people start losing their minds and will argue about the dumbest things with the dumbest of arguments... up


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Originally Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER
Originally Posted By: Grizz
How in the world did we go from writing a ticket for a shotgun plug to murdering millions of innocent people just because they're Jewish? rolleyes


How we got there is: This is the THF and dove season doesn't start for another 3 weeks. roflmao roflmao

It is kind of like cabin fever up north the last weeks of winter, people start losing their minds and will argue about the dumbest things with the dumbest of arguments... up


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: mattyg06] #7247324 08/06/18 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: mattyg06
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Silly. Don’t you know it doesn’t matter how ridiculous the law is, they must be enforced! We’re one small plug or tailgate from anarchy I tell ya!!!


Honestly there is much truth to your sentiment. Think about how all of the bs laws erode your confidence in law enforcement and decrease your general respect for the law in general.


Yup....and what I find most intriguing is that someone’s ignorance or disregard for the law resulting in a citation makes the officer Hitlery, an AH or a little man.... rolleyes

They’re human and imperfect just like the rest of us. If they make a mistake go fight it in court.


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: Pitchfork Predator] #7247358 08/06/18 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
So please articulate, what’s so bad about shooting dove from a tailgate, that we need to dedicate law enforcement resources to it, & violate American citizens 4th Amendment rights?

I’d rather deal with the problems of hunters shooting dove from tailgates (no problems), than with LE searching law abiding people without evidence or probable cause.


Silly. Don’t you know it doesn’t matter how ridiculous the law is, they must be enforced! We’re one small plug or tailgate from anarchy I tell ya!!!


Never really thought about how silly that law is. Now that I have I agree a bag limit is a bag limit. It's a silly law IMO.


It’s an outdated law that should have been repealed decades ago. But tpwd uses it for harassment and a cash cow. More GW time is spent during dove season checking plugs than doing anything else.


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: maximus_flavius] #7247366 08/06/18 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
“The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government” - Tacitus


And the game and fish laws are so numerous the enforcers can’t stay current on them.


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: SnakeWrangler] #7247368 08/06/18 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: SnakeWrangler
Originally Posted By: mattyg06
Originally Posted By: therancher
Silly. Don’t you know it doesn’t matter how ridiculous the law is, they must be enforced! We’re one small plug or tailgate from anarchy I tell ya!!!


Honestly there is much truth to your sentiment. Think about how all of the bs laws erode your confidence in law enforcement and decrease your general respect for the law in general.


Yup....and what I find most intriguing is that someone’s ignorance or disregard for the law resulting in a citation makes the officer Hitlery, an AH or a little man.... rolleyes

They’re human and imperfect just like the rest of us. If they make a mistake go fight it in court.


Exactly. How many of us get up in the morning and put on a bullet proof vest, then kiss our spouse and kiddos goodbye and say a prayer that they come back home to them after work that day? I will say it once again - go ride out with an LEO if you really want to know what they do


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: nate33] #7247370 08/06/18 11:00 PM
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How hard is it to check to make sure your plug is in your shotgun? Seems pretty simple to me, only person you can blame if you get a ticket for it is yourself. With that said it is kinda dumb but then again 3 shells is plenty who wants the extra weight in the gun? Most times I take 1-2 shots then reload on the way to pick up the bird/birds.

Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: nate33] #7247371 08/06/18 11:01 PM
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There seems to be a correlation between certain posters and lack of positive outcomes with the Game Warden.

roflmao


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: Hunt Dog] #7247556 08/07/18 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: Hunt Dog
Never really had a problem with State Game Wardens. I just show them my Lifetime Combo License, than a couple questions later it's 'Have a nice day'.


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: nate33] #7247598 08/07/18 01:45 AM
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I’ve had two interactions with game wardens while hunting.

The federal game warden was great. Reasonable, chatty, asked me to call him if I ever had any issues and gave me his cell phone number.

Texas warden, apparently having a bad day, was the most unprofessional, accusatory experience I’ve had with any LEO. She got worse when she found I was in total compliance.

I’m extremely respectful with any LEO I interact with (discussions in the THF OT not withstanding) but I don’t worship them either.

When hunting, we both have loaded weapons. I want everyone to feel as comfortable as possible, knowing that they don’t know me and they deal with people from all walks of life. Kindness and respect are key, and it’s nice when it goes both ways. The way I was raised, it’s right to be kind and respectful even when they aren’t, but I don’t have to like it when they don’t treat me with respect.


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: maximus_flavius] #7247604 08/07/18 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
“The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government” - Tacitus


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: SapperTitan] #7247699 08/07/18 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
How hard is it to check to make sure your plug is in your shotgun? Seems pretty simple to me, only person you can blame if you get a ticket for it is yourself. With that said it is kinda dumb but then again 3 shells is plenty who wants the extra weight in the gun? Most times I take 1-2 shots then reload on the way to pick up the bird/birds.


It’s not hard. But it’s unnecessary. If I want to lug around a 100 round drum so I don’t have to reload for 5 days of hunting I ought to be able to. If I’m over the limit cite me. But I hate having to worry about whether or not I remembered to replug my gun after quail hunting. And I shouldn’t have to. And that shouldn’t be a cash cow for a lazy leo agency.


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: therancher] #7247714 08/07/18 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted By: therancher
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How hard is it to check to make sure your plug is in your shotgun? Seems pretty simple to me, only person you can blame if you get a ticket for it is yourself. With that said it is kinda dumb but then again 3 shells is plenty who wants the extra weight in the gun? Most times I take 1-2 shots then reload on the way to pick up the bird/birds.


It’s not hard. But it’s unnecessary. If I want to lug around a 100 round drum so I don’t have to reload for 5 days of hunting I ought to be able to. If I’m over the limit cite me. But I hate having to worry about whether or not I remembered to replug my gun after quail hunting. And I shouldn’t have to. And that shouldn’t be a cash cow for a lazy leo agency.


You just need to buy an o/u and be done with it, Geez man. I can guarantee there is a solid reason you're limited to three shells, I'm sure there's research on it. The law isn't there for fun.


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: maximus_flavius] #7247721 08/07/18 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
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His son was shooting from the tailgate that evening...


The horror!


Is that really illegal? If it is I break the law every year hammer

Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: KWood_TSU] #7247724 08/07/18 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: KWood_TSU
The law isn't there for fun.


It dates from market hunting.


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: SnakeWrangler] #7247725 08/07/18 04:11 AM
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Silly. Don’t you know it doesn’t matter how ridiculous the law is, they must be enforced! We’re one small plug or tailgate from anarchy I tell ya!!!


Honestly there is much truth to your sentiment. Think about how all of the bs laws erode your confidence in law enforcement and decrease your general respect for the law in general.


Yup....and what I find most intriguing is that someone’s ignorance or disregard for the law resulting in a citation makes the officer Hitlery, an AH or a little man.... rolleyes

They’re human and imperfect just like the rest of us. If they make a mistake go fight it in court.


There are WAY more good ones than bad but the bad ones get all of the press. And it doesn't help when the good ones try to protect the "badge" and don't acknowledge that there are crooked LEOs.

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Originally Posted By: TurkeyHunter
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The law isn't there for fun.


It dates from market hunting.


Which is dated anyway.


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Re: What to do with Game Wardens. [Re: Duck_Hunter] #7247738 08/07/18 04:44 AM
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The law isn't there for fun.


It dates from market hunting.


Which is dated anyway.


Sasser writes this rule into his yearly dove article stating it doesn't make sense but it is what it is. We can blame our great granddads for most of our migratory bird laws.

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I'm glad we have the plug laws, I save ammo that way. 3 vs 5 rounds.

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I've no feelings one way or the other on plug laws as I don't bird hunt, but I've had a few sour episodes with game wardens that makes me stay clear of them when possible. I've got my hunting license in a clear case attached to my person at all times when traveling to and on the ranch and I always handle firearms safely whether a warden is there or expected to be there.

I don't shoot the bull when they come strolling in. It's "yes" or "no" and showing I'm legal. Nothing more and nothing less.



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It's actually part of an international treaty, would take a lot to change it.

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We need some GW's here near my house in Bandera. Maybe they can catch this guy every ones been hunting for the last couple of days.

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Texas warden, apparently having a bad day, was the most unprofessional, accusatory experience I’ve had with any LEO. She got worse when she found I was in total compliance.

Didn't happen to be in Colorado County recently did it?

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