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#7246827 - 08/06/18 10:26 AM Federal Flight Control
onlysmith&wesson Offline
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Recently decided to use my 12 ga beretta on hogs. Anyone here use Federal Flight Control? Some pretty impressive field tests are out there.
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#7246840 - 08/06/18 10:36 AM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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Haven't but give it a try and let us know how it does.
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#7247465 - 08/06/18 07:12 PM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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I've used that wad in their Heavyweight turkey loads-- and it out performed other similar loads for pattern density at 40 yards.

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#7248947 - 08/08/18 06:39 AM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: duckhunter175]
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Originally Posted By: duckhunter175
I've used that wad in their Heavyweight turkey loads-- and it out performed other similar loads for pattern density at 40 yards.


Yes, they were impressive and my favorite load before I began handloading TSS.
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#7250962 - 08/09/18 08:30 PM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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Found these in 2-3/4". No 3" on the shelf. I'll try them. Seems like the 2-3/4 actually has more velocity. For 30 yards in these should be just as good?
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#7251248 - 08/10/18 08:50 AM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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#3 steel? Will that penetrate as well as #4 buck?

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#7253169 - 08/12/18 12:12 PM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: rickt300]
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No it will not. Lead has a higher density than steel and will penetrate deeper, given all other variables are equal. Therefore it especially won't penetrate as deep bc #4buck is bigger than any bird shot including #3 steel. .
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#7253611 - 08/12/18 08:42 PM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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I feel that #4 buck is just about as small as I would use on hogs and didn't know if steel had some majical properties I didn't know about.

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#7253746 - 08/13/18 03:35 AM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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Cutting up some hog legs yesterday, and found some lead shot barely into the meat. After I skinned the hind legs, I saw some dark spots and digging them out, found what I would guess to be about some #2 shot. It got through the skin and at the most 1/8" or so into the meat.

Talking with a state trapper once that I had doing some beaver control, he was telling me how many beavers he had seen with shot under their skin. If you are going for hogs with one, I would opt for the largest shot you could use or slugs....in order to get enough penetration to do some good, and the closer to the animal the better.

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#7253747 - 08/13/18 04:37 AM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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I'll be using 00 buck, in 2-3/4" There were none available in 3". My question was a comparison of 2-3/4" vs 3".
Originally Posted By: onlysmith&wesson
Found these in 2-3/4". No 3" on the shelf. I'll try them. Seems like the 2-3/4 actually has more velocity. For 30 yards in these should be just as good?
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#7254211 - 08/13/18 01:03 PM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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Oops missed your point. My shotgun I use for buckshot has a turkey full choke tube on it with a .660 inside diameter, Primos tightewad I think. I tested all kinds of chokes and this one put in the best patterns with virtually all the buckshot on a paper plate at 30 yards. People will say use an open choke but I spent some bucks testing this theory and on both my 12 gauges open chokes meant open patterns. Tight patterns and shooting at the head/neck area are what you need. If I could regularly find it I would use #1 buck.


Edited by rickt300 (08/13/18 01:13 PM)

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#7254501 - 08/13/18 05:05 PM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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Standard 9 Pellet 2.75 inch 00buck generally has more velocity and equates to more foot pounds of energy per Pellet. If you can consistently put 9 standard 2.75 “ 00bk in your target at any given distance, you woul need to put 10 in the target using 2.75 Magnum or 3 “ Magnum 00 bk shells.

I once tested 20 Remington 870P shotguns with consecutive serial #s, all with the same cylinder choke. Using the same brand of 9 Pellet 2.75 “ 00bk at 30 yds. The patterns ranged in size from all 9 pellets in a pattern the size of a 9” dinner plate to a 30” spread.. Most were some where in between.
Many times changing the brand made significant changes to the results both good and bad.
Testing is the only way to find out!
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#7255001 - 08/13/18 10:25 PM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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I harvested a 100lb. sow while turkey hunting this year. Square in the face at 15yds. with 2.5 oz. of #9 TSS. She dropped in her tracks and never moved.
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#7255071 - 08/14/18 04:52 AM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: rickt300]
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Originally Posted By: rickt300
Oops missed your point. My shotgun I use for buckshot has a turkey full choke tube on it with a .660 inside diameter, Primos tightewad I think. I tested all kinds of chokes and this one put in the best patterns with virtually all the buckshot on a paper plate at 30 yards. People will say use an open choke but I spent some bucks testing this theory and on both my 12 gauges open chokes meant open patterns. Tight patterns and shooting at the head/neck area are what you need. If I could regularly find it I would use #1 buck.
This is all about the Federal Flight Control load. The wad doesn't flare out and peel back, but stays in tact keeping the load together. If shot through a tight choke, it will deform the wad making it ineffective. So I'm hearing. I'll shoot it this weekend. as your test with Federal Fight Control?
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#7255151 - 08/14/18 07:46 AM Re: Federal Flight Control [Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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Interesting, no I haven't tried the flight control loads though I have some Federal buckshot. Must be older stuff as it says granulated filler 2 3/4 20 #1 buck. This is an awesome buckshot round that is hard to find anymore. If you get good results I will get some to try.

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