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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: scalebuster]
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08/03/18 10:04 PM
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Ive had stops on dove hunts by the federals. We stood aside while they counted our birds. I’ve only had one experience with a federal and it wasn’t good. We were dove hunting on a buddies place between Rotan and Hamlin. The warden pulled up and started issuing orders. We had a limit of dove and had quit shooting. We had two guys from out of state that had mesquite plugs in their guns. The fed jammed an extra shell in their guns and told them they were going to jail. The land owner told him he wasn’t taking anyone to jail and the fed got mouthy with him and told him he may go to jail too. The landowner was an 80 year old WW2 vet and asked him if he wanted to bet on it. Landowner called the county judge on his party line and handed the phone to the fed. A short conversation later he left and told us to have a goood day. I’m glad the judge was home because the old man was serious when he told the fed no one was going to jail that day, and paid us no mind when we told him to calm down. I know all of the local wardens where I hunt and Fish and have never had a problem with any of them. They have a job to do and there’s no reason to be an arsehole. It’s also good to know an old man that’s lived in the same small county his whole life and doesn’t put up with any bullsht on his own property. that could have gone south...
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: nate33]
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08/03/18 11:26 PM
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I am always respectful to Game Wardens, I have had only two out of five encounters that the Warden was just as respectful to me or my family. I have never received a violation, although I have been treated like a criminal by them.
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: nate33]
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08/04/18 12:44 AM
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My son has been an LEO for years. I ride out with him at times. The general public is clueless on what these law enforcement officers deal with every day. 90% of the people they come in contact with every day are scumbags pure and simple. I have witnessed it over and over and so will you if you take the time to ride with one of them. So suffice it to say that they must have a huge amount of restraint when dealing with the public.
Yes there are sorry cops and GW's. That is true in any aspect of our society. But the vast majority are good people - They are human beings with a family at home just like all of us. All they want to do is go home at night to their family. God Bless each of them
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: tlk]
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08/04/18 12:47 AM
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My son has been an LEO for years. I ride out with him at times. The general public is clueless on what these law enforcement officers deal with every day. 90% of the people they come in contact with every day are scumbags pure and simple. I have witnessed it over and over and so will you if you take the time to ride with one of them. So suffice it to say that you must have a huge amount of restraint when dealing with the public.
Yes there are sorry cops and GW's. That is true in any aspect of our society. But the vast majority are good people - They are human beings with a family at home just like all of us. All they want to do is go home at night to their family. God Bless each of them exactly
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: tlk]
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08/04/18 01:24 AM
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My son has been an LEO for years. I ride out with him at times. The general public is clueless on what these law enforcement officers deal with every day. 90% of the people they come in contact with every day are scumbags pure and simple. I have witnessed it over and over and so will you if you take the time to ride with one of them. So suffice it to say that they must have a huge amount of restraint when dealing with the public.
Yes there are sorry cops and GW's. That is true in any aspect of our society. But the vast majority are good people - They are human beings with a family at home just like all of us. All they want to do is go home at night to their family. God Bless each of them Well said Sir
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: nate33]
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08/04/18 01:27 AM
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We were walking down a dirt road back to camp in the dark and GW stopped, checked licenses. He then said jump in and gave us a ride the last mile. Arizona in the '80s
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: nate33]
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08/04/18 01:28 AM
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yes and no sir to all law enforcement . Only had a game warden 3 times in 17 years. Had a good conversation with one after he checked our license, we knew some of the same people. Checked one of our hunters and found he had used the wrong tag on a deer. Gave the guy a warning to mu surprise. The last time the warden was following up on a report of someone ith a auto firing rifle. All was well.
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
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08/04/18 02:22 AM
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Usually they check my stuff then we shoot the chit for a few and then he goes on his way. Same. I shoot until he’s ready to check me then as soon as he’s done I’m shooting again. This immediately unload the gun and assume the position stuff is kinda weird. I’ve done nothing wrong and not going to act like I have. I’m very respectful, but I’m hunting.
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: tlk]
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08/04/18 03:18 AM
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90% of the people they come in contact with every day are scumbags pure and simple. Do you think that 90% of the people that Game Wardens come in contact with are scumbags?
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
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08/04/18 03:21 AM
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Just think about how ignorant the law is that they’re “enforcing”. Yes, the plug in shotguns law. I’d bet a lot of money they write vastly more tickets for that than any other violation. Virtually all the posts on this thread concern that ignorant law. .
If they spent as much time and resources on the violations that provide value (catching poachers), then they’d have my respect. Just like if cops stopped enforcing speeding laws, they could catch real criminals. LMAO. Anyone can see the justification for speeding laws. No one, not you, not anyone can make a legitimate argument in support of plug laws.
Crotchety old bastidge
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: tlk]
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08/04/18 03:32 AM
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My son has been an LEO for years. I ride out with him at times. The general public is clueless on what these law enforcement officers deal with every day. 90% of the people they come in contact with every day are scumbags pure and simple. I have witnessed it over and over and so will you if you take the time to ride with one of them. So suffice it to say that they must have a huge amount of restraint when dealing with the public.
Yes there are sorry cops and GW's. That is true in any aspect of our society. But the vast majority are good people - They are human beings with a family at home just like all of us. All they want to do is go home at night to their family. God Bless each of them In my best Colonel Sherman T Potter's voice "Horse apples"
Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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08/04/18 10:08 AM
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90% of the people they come in contact with every day are scumbags pure and simple. Do you think that 90% of the people that Game Wardens come in contact with are scumbags? I was not referring game wardens - I should have clarified. I was referring to LEO's on the street
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: tlk]
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08/04/18 11:45 AM
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90% of the people they come in contact with every day are scumbags pure and simple. Do you think that 90% of the people that Game Wardens come in contact with are scumbags? I was not referring game wardens - I should have clarified. I was referring to LEO's on the street So, what % of people that GW interact with are “scumbags”, in your estimation?
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: nate33]
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08/04/18 11:50 AM
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Not sure I get ranchers point about the plugs. He’s blaming GWs for enforcing a law? That’s their job. They don’t make the laws....they just do the job of enforcement. Plain and simple. If peeps don’t agree with a law do something to try and change it instead of moaning about it.
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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08/04/18 11:54 AM
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90% of the people they come in contact with every day are scumbags pure and simple. Do you think that 90% of the people that Game Wardens come in contact with are scumbags? I was not referring game wardens - I should have clarified. I was referring to LEO's on the street So, what % of people that GW interact with are “scumbags”, in your estimation? Depends on what area of the state the GW has to work in.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: nate33]
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08/04/18 12:01 PM
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My last interaction with a GW, was dove hunting. We saw the GW pull into the neighbors place & haul [censored] towards us. Literally seen him comin a mile away, & he’s doin 50-60mph across an open field. When he gets to us, he realizes there’s a fence between us. Instead of parking there & just hopping over the fence, he has to turn around, go back, drive around the county road, drive around to my gate, then drive thru my pastures to get to us. The whole ordeal took 10 minutes. I’ve texted everyone (maybe 15 hunters) & we are all waiting for him. He checks everybodys shotguns (even those in the trunks of cars that were not in use). This all took sometime. Wrote a few tickets for the old “no hunters safety [censored] certificate”.
I felt a lot safer.
I asked him why he didn’t just hop the fence earlier, he said he was too fat for that! We got all got a laugh & I agreed that I was too fat for fence hopping myself.
My only point is; too bad we as a society don’t put more emphasis on catching real criminals, like rapist, murderers, illegals, & meth cooks instead of normal decent guys who may break extremely minor game laws (often unknowingly).
This is why many people look at LE only as a money generating scheme. Like speed traps, expired registration, & non-working license plate lights.
I’d rather a few guys get away with not having a plug in their shotgun, while we arrest & prosecute actual criminals who do bodily harm to victims. Just my opinion.
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: majekman]
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08/04/18 12:45 PM
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Not sure I get ranchers point about the plugs. He’s blaming GWs for enforcing a law? That’s their job. They don’t make the laws....they just do the job of enforcement. Plain and simple. If peeps don’t agree with a law do something to try and change it instead of moaning about it. First it’s an antiquated federal law, so good luck with changing that. Second and more important, state leo’s aren’t “doing their job” enforcing fed laws. There are MANY fed laws and some state laws that local leo’s don’t enforce. If I was an leo it would embarrass me to enforce such an ignorant law. Wonder why no one’s taken a stab at defending the plug law. Which no doubt is the highest % of fish cop interaction with the hunting public? We all know why.
Crotchety old bastidge
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: nate33]
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08/04/18 02:36 PM
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Only had one bad experience with a warden. He was a rookie and way out of line. The senior training warden stepped in and took over and it was fine.
I have higher respect for wardens than any law enforcement. Great guy (and gals). A hard job but they are typically always nice and fair.
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
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08/04/18 04:53 PM
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Not sure I get ranchers point about the plugs. He’s blaming GWs for enforcing a law? That’s their job. They don’t make the laws....they just do the job of enforcement. Plain and simple. If peeps don’t agree with a law do something to try and change it instead of moaning about it. Ah. The old Nuremberg Defense. Just following orders, Herr Oberststurmbanfuehrer? The SS were “just following orders” also.......
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: therancher]
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08/04/18 05:30 PM
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Not sure I get ranchers point about the plugs. He’s blaming GWs for enforcing a law? That’s their job. They don’t make the laws....they just do the job of enforcement. Plain and simple. If peeps don’t agree with a law do something to try and change it instead of moaning about it. First it’s an antiquated federal law, so good luck with changing that. Second and more important, state leo’s aren’t “doing their job” enforcing fed laws. There are MANY fed laws and some state laws that local leo’s don’t enforce. If I was an leo it would embarrass me to enforce such an ignorant law. Wonder why no one’s taken a stab at defending the plug law. Which no doubt is the highest % of fish cop interaction with the hunting public? We all know why. Do GWs enforce all federal laws? Do they enforce federal immigration laws?
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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08/04/18 06:53 PM
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Not sure I get ranchers point about the plugs. He’s blaming GWs for enforcing a law? That’s their job. They don’t make the laws....they just do the job of enforcement. Plain and simple. If peeps don’t agree with a law do something to try and change it instead of moaning about it. Ah. The old Nuremberg Defense. Just following orders, Herr Oberststurmbanfuehrer? The SS were “just following orders” also....... Guess sarcasm is your point. If so, I get it. If not, well your comparison lacks an important factor called a brain
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
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08/04/18 09:23 PM
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I call them a pig and assail them with my pocket constitution. I ask if I'm being detained or am I free to go over and over again.
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
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08/05/18 01:27 AM
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I call them a pig and assail them with my pocket constitution. I ask if I'm being detained or am I free to go over and over again.
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
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08/05/18 01:48 AM
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How in the world did we go from writing a ticket for a shotgun plug to murdering millions of innocent people just because they're Jewish?
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Re: What to do with Game Wardens.
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08/05/18 01:59 AM
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How in the world did we go from writing a ticket for a shotgun plug to murdering millions of innocent people just because they're Jewish? Many law enforcement officers and Hitler have the same little man’s disease.
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