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#7240681 - 07/31/18 09:39 AM .300 win mag ammo selection
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Torn between the 180 grain accubonds and the Barnes TTSX 165 grain

I have had bad experiences with the Barnes tsx in the past due to poor expansion but I hear good things about the TTSX

I like the accubonds as well


Game will be mainly elk, mule deer, Nilgai, moose and mountain goat
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#7240684 - 07/31/18 09:42 AM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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Easy choice. 180 Accubonds. If you want a bigger bullet for the moose and Nilgai, the 200 AB would work well. I personally know hunters who have taken multiple Nilgai with a 180 AB in a 300 WM. It will work fine. I'm not a fan of the copper bullets.
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#7240719 - 07/31/18 10:10 AM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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Thanks chad.

I myself have seen dozens of deer shot with cooper bullets and All have been less than spectacular
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#7240745 - 07/31/18 10:31 AM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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IMO, you have to really speed up the Barnes bullets to make them equal to, or close to a lead bullet. But when you speed them up over about 3000 fps, they begin to copper foul really bad. They are great for one thing- penetration! They transfer less energy into the target, which allows for more penetration. They expand 1.5 times diameter, and keep on going. They do make for for good bullet choice in lower power rounds, like a 223. A 223 with a light weight Barnes, like a 50-55 grain TSX, would be a good choice for a tougher bullet in a lighter round for better performance. The big negative on them is when they slow down, the expansion is minimal. You need to keep impact speeds up above 2200-2400 fps for good expansion. Much slower than that, and you have an expensive FMJ bullet.

I would not feel under gunned with anything in N. America with a 300 WM and 180 AB.
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#7240899 - 07/31/18 01:05 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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I use the 180 Accubond in my 26 inch barrel 300 Win Mag.

Chad explained it well.


Edited by TackDriver (07/31/18 02:13 PM)

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#7241058 - 07/31/18 03:32 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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Accubond and never look back!!! I have shot them in a lot of different calibers and they have always impressed me.

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#7241262 - 07/31/18 06:35 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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ordered a few boxes of accubond today.


I use them in my .257 and have had good luck with them


i'll stick with them in my .300
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#7241294 - 07/31/18 07:01 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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Like the Accubond and use it in:
257 WBY 110gr AB
6.5 Grendel 129gr ABLR
6.5-284 130gr and 140 AB
264 Win Mag 140gr AB
7mm-08 140gr AB

All have worked as expected every time
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#7241470 - 07/31/18 10:05 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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Well a bit late since TT already ordered ABís, which will work fine as will many bullets from a 300 Win Mag.

The TTSX performs differently, far better and more consistently than than TSX. I only used the TSX a few times, but it really was among the worst performing bullets Iíve ever used. In stark contrast, after about 15+ animals, the TTSX has performed very nicely. My sense is it that it is softer and the tip must help as well. The entrance holes on a rib cage are 1/2Ē - 1Ē - that is the entrance side, exits are similar.

I swore off Barnes after trying the TSX, but someone encouraged me to try the TTSX and I am glad I did. The 308 175 SMK combo still has killed more for me than everything else added together by double or triple, and it still works well for me, but I would not necessarily recommend it for others.)


These are on a doe behind the shoulders with a 260 with 100 gr TTSX. I am picking this series on a doe as the smaller body mass with behind the shoulder heart lung shot placement is more challenging for this type bullet than a larger animal with a thicker diameter. These are very typical of the wound holes - not the biggest and not the smallest, but reliably through and through. The only TTSX that did not exit was my nephew shot a 200#+ boar through the shoulders with an 80 gr TTSX from a 243 and it stopped in the off side hide. I will try to take a photo of a 300 Win Mag with 165 TTSX combo this year.

Entrance inside rib cag view



Exit inside rib cage



Exit, exterior




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#7241946 - 08/01/18 12:01 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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Barnes 180 accubond is a good choice, I prefer 210g Berger bullets out of my 300 WM Iím sure Chad could load you some up or check out HSM AMMO I am a hunting guide for PBGSO and see all kinds of different types of ammo and shots (storyís for days) I cringe when I see Cheap Ammo it usually ends up bringing a dog out or haveing to shoot the animal multiple times.
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#7241965 - 08/01/18 12:21 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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Gonna test the 180 grain accubonds against a nilgai bull and see how it turns out
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#7242032 - 08/01/18 01:29 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: J.D.A]
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Originally Posted By: J.D.A
I prefer 210g Berger bullets out of my 300 WM


I load those for a good friend's .300 Win Mag. He cannot stop bragging on them.
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#7242048 - 08/01/18 01:45 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: jeffbird]
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Originally Posted By: jeffbird


I only used the TSX a few times, but it really was among the worst performing bullets Iíve ever used.




More and more people are seeing the light every day. I was probably one of the first people on this forum to openly criticize the TSX and my experiences with it. The TSX fan boy crowd here was very strong back then and you would have thought I slapped each one of thems momma or something the way they reacted to my findings. LOL! Even when presented with photographic proof of perfect shot placement I was still told I didn't know what I was talking about and that it was one of the best bullets on the planet. Since then more and more people have experienced what me and you have stated and the internet is filled with similar stories now also.

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#7242050 - 08/01/18 01:46 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: J.D.A]
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Originally Posted By: J.D.A
BarnesNOSLER 180 accubond is a good choice,


Please don't disrespect the Accubond like that! grin

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#7242079 - 08/01/18 02:04 PM Re: .300 win mag ammo selection [Re: txtrophy85]
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I think you made the right call of those two bullets. Good luck on your nalgi
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