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#7240350 - 07/30/18 09:00 PM .22-250, 1-14 twist
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Why are all the factory guns set up with this twist rate. I realize lighter bullets. Whats the heaviest .55gr?
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#7240356 - 07/30/18 09:05 PM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Some 60-62gr but they have to be flatbase.
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#7240369 - 07/30/18 09:21 PM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Be awesome to see someone do a 1 in 7 factory. I know Buzz doesn't want to hear it but there are some Tikka 1 in 8s floating around.
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#7240376 - 07/30/18 09:35 PM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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“What’s the heaviest 55 gr?” Hmmmm.

1 in 14 was common because heavier bullets weren’t that common prior to the 223 and fast twist. The heaviest bullet I can stabilize in my 220 (short barrel) is the 63 gr Sierra SMP flat base. The 60 gr Partition will stabilize in some conditions, and maybe if I had a 26 inch barrel it might stabilize. The 64 gr Nosler BSB won’t stabilize and the 65 gr Sierra GK is so far from stabilizing that I never could find out where the bullets were going at 100 yards.

The 63 gr worked pretty well on medium sized pigs inside about 50 yards, and I killed a few deer with it. The only reason I used the 220 was because I was hosting customer hunters and planned to shoot coyotes while they hunted deer. If the customers weren’t doing well, I’d be asked to shoot a couple doe to feed those customers. That old rifle was a laser beam on coyotes.

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#7240403 - 07/30/18 10:11 PM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I'm shopping for a new rifle, was hot for a 6.5 PRC (still am) but maybe a LR prairie dogger. How about the 6mm Creed?

Dont really want to build
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#7240416 - 07/30/18 10:19 PM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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6mm is good not many loads below 87gr are offered factory. Several good brass options now and plenty of good recipes out tgere.
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#7240513 - 07/31/18 06:31 AM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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thanks Dee, you are always there helping me with my dumb questions. i notice quite a few 6mm Creed chambered factory rifles, some quite accurate.

i want something in between my .223 and 6.5 creed. thats where i came up with .22-250
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#7240527 - 07/31/18 06:54 AM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
Why are all the factory guns set up with this twist rate. I realize lighter bullets. Whats the heaviest .55gr?


It's a varmint gun. Twisted to shoot light Bullets fast enough to blow them up inside the animal without an exit.


Edited by Smokey Bear (07/31/18 07:08 AM)
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#7240531 - 07/31/18 07:01 AM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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How about accuracy from a factory gun in .22-250? I'm looking at the Sako 85 laminated Varmint, Browning Hells Canyon long range, Bergara Pro series
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#7240536 - 07/31/18 07:05 AM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Pretty sure salvage has a faster twist 22-250 but you'll be regulated to factory ammo unless some of the big guys jump on that field.
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#7240552 - 07/31/18 07:24 AM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Buzzsaw, a fast twist 22-250 makes a lot of sense to me. Short of rebarreling something, there aren't many around. Some of the newer stuff like Valkerie and Creedmore can scratch the target shooters itch to shoot a heavy .224 fast. If I were setting a rifle up for that purpose, a new fast twist 22-250 barrel in a long action, is likely the way I would do it.


Edited by Smokey Bear (07/31/18 07:25 AM)
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#7240555 - 07/31/18 07:25 AM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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My dad's early 60's Sako 22-250 rifle has a 1-14 twist
He killed a LOT of deer with the 63g Sierras
I couldn't find any locally about 8 years ago when I was doing some loading for him (he had got rid of all of his gear)
65g Sierras were keyholing, I ordered some 63s and it went to one hole groups and under .5 (outer, not center to center) at 200

The gun was built with a pre 64 Winchester barrel that had a 1-14 twist I found out while researching..

Such a cool gun
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#7240568 - 07/31/18 07:45 AM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
How about accuracy from a factory gun in .22-250? I'm looking at the Sako 85 laminated Varmint, Browning Hells Canyon long range, Bergara Pro series


Bergara is 1:9
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#7240588 - 07/31/18 08:10 AM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Smokey Bear]
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Originally Posted By: Smokey Bear
Buzzsaw, a fast twist 22-250 makes a lot of sense to me. Short of rebarreling something, there aren't many around. Some of the newer stuff like Valkerie and Creedmore can scratch the target shooters itch to shoot a heavy .224 fast. If I were setting a rifle up for that purpose, a new fast twist 22-250 barrel in a long action, is likely the way I would do it.


No need for a long action. My 1:8 .22-250 and 75 gr A-Maxes fit just fine into a short action. They come out at 3200 fps using 34.4 gr of H-Varget.

At the same time the .223 A.I. is shooting an 80 gr ELD-M at 3085 fps using 26.4 of IMR-8208. So the .223 A.I. is knocking on the door of .22-250 speeds with a third less powder.

And Buzz is sitting on a perfect action to rebarrel, but he has seen another squirrel.
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#7240594 - 07/31/18 08:22 AM Re: .22-250, 1-14 twist [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Good info. Thanks for posting that Fireman. Any issues with mag length with the 80 gr in the 22-250?


Edited by Smokey Bear (07/31/18 08:25 AM)
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