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#7238215 - 07/28/18 01:47 PM Carcano and Arisaka
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Anyone into these? I just came into these and I can say other that what the Google machine tells me, I know nothing. Heck neither one of them even have calibers on them!

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#7238236 - 07/28/18 02:21 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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They both shoot 6.5mm bullets. That's probably why the Axis powers lost the war.

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#7238238 - 07/28/18 02:23 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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6.5 Carcano. Lee Harvey Oswald's weapon of choice.
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#7238255 - 07/28/18 02:46 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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Word on the street is the Arisaka action is very strong. A few customs have been built on it.
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#7238257 - 07/28/18 02:51 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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You need to post some photos and I will tell you what you have . The Arisaka was made in two different calibers , 6.5 and 7.7 mm . The Carcano was also made in two different calibers . 6.5 and 7.35 mm . Either can have some collector value , depending on many factors .

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#7238259 - 07/28/18 02:51 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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You need to post some photos and I will tell you what you have . The Arisaka was made in two different calibers , 6.5 and 7.7 mm . The Carcano was also made in two different calibers . 6.5 and 7.35 mm . Either can have some collector value , depending on many factors .

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#7238297 - 07/28/18 03:30 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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Ok Iíll take some tonight. I assume it was taken from the field because the chrysanthemum still being on there and based on the other symbols, it was made between Ď40-45 in the Tokyo Juki Kogyo plant. Itís the little short trench version? Iíll post pics shortly.

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#7238301 - 07/28/18 03:36 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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Wait, everything but the trench part. That is the Carcano. The Arisaka is the one my grandfather fitted a Bishop sporter stock with. Fits great in that aspect but it ainít factory at all. Lol

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#7238303 - 07/28/18 03:41 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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The ariska will likely be a 6.5x50 or 6.5x51. I believe these to be the same cartridge given different designations at different times. Brass may be packaged under one designation and headstamped the other.


Edited by wp75169 (07/28/18 04:01 PM)

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#7238306 - 07/28/18 03:46 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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So the 6.5 and the 7.7 are from the same 6.5 case? So Iíd have to get bore diameter to know for sure which one it is.

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#7238311 - 07/28/18 04:00 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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If thatís directed at me I donít know anything about the 7.7. I was simply stating the 6.5s are more common than the 7.7.


Edited by wp75169 (07/28/18 04:02 PM)

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#7238323 - 07/28/18 04:16 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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What sucks is there is a ton of ammo for all the other stuff Papa had that he left to me but no rifle ammo that I could use for reference. I will admit, the research of it all sure is kind of cool to me. Little did I know, my Granny was packiní heat back in the day too. Nothing of any value in the marketplace but all of them priceless to me.

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#7238587 - 07/28/18 10:03 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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A lot of the 6.5 Arisaka rifles were rechambered to 6.5X57 which Hornady includes in their reloading books. The only Arisaka I have loaded for was one of those and I was plesantly surprised at easily finding a subMOA load for it with Hornady 160gr round nose bullets.

In his gun blowup tests P.O. Ackley determined the Arisaka was one of the toughest actions.

Following WW-II ammo forthe Arisaka was hard to come by from what I have read and is why many were chambered to a cartridge that would fit and brass was easy to find.
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#7239007 - 07/29/18 02:03 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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Since the rifle is a TJK it is a 7.7mm rifle . There is only one 6.5mm Arisaka cartridge . The 6.5mm is totally different from the 7.7 mm case .

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#7239347 - 07/29/18 09:09 PM Re: Carcano and Arisaka [Re: Bullfrog]
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