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no more diesel trucks RAM2500 6.4 4X4 VS FORD F250 6.2 4X4 #7218802 07/08/18 08:27 PM
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WHAT TRUCK DO YOUR DRIVE AND THE MPG ON IT HAS IT BEEN A GOOD VEHICLE OR HAS IT BEEN TO REPAIR SHOP A LOT.

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Probably need to edit that... I’m guessing you want to know about people’s personal experiences on truck they have actually owned... probably a good idea to leave the GM gasoline off the list. The 6.0 is a great engine with less than 10,000 lbs behind it.


Originally Posted by Chunky Monkey
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Originally Posted By: TEXASLEFTY
Probably need to edit that... I’m guessing you want to know about people’s personal experiences on truck they have actually owned... probably a good idea to leave the GM gasoline off the list. The 6.0 is a great engine with less than 10,000 lbs behind it.


The 6.0 GM is an excellent motor and will out last either of the other 2 by a long shot. But like Lefty said, it’s done at around 10,000 pounds unless you like to drive slow.

Re: no more diesel trucks RAM2500 6.4 4X4 VS FORD F250 6.2 4X4 [Re: BigPig] #7219124 07/09/18 02:01 AM
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Probably need to edit that... I’m guessing you want to know about people’s personal experiences on truck they have actually owned... probably a good idea to leave the GM gasoline off the list. The 6.0 is a great engine with less than 10,000 lbs behind it.


The 6.0 GM is an excellent motor and will out last either of the other 2 by a long shot. But like Lefty said, it’s done at around 10,000 pounds unless you like to drive slow.


Or start overheating things.....


Originally Posted by Chunky Monkey
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Re: no more diesel trucks RAM2500 6.4 4X4 VS FORD F250 6.2 4X4 [Re: jimgb] #7219167 07/09/18 02:39 AM
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I had a dodge 2500 6.4 powerwagon, I bought it to tow, it was OK with my boat but has that eco mode and I would have to manually shift or put in tow to keep it from going into eco and shutting down on cylinders to save gas. I didn't buy the truck to save on gas. I traded it in after 6 months and got a dodge 2500 diesel, best decision I could have made.

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I've got a 2015 6.4L 2500 crewcab Ram with 3.73s. It pulls a 35' bumper travel trailer jut fine. It will wind up on hills with the trailer. Our dealer said to let it wind, it was designed for that. I had an 08' 6.7 diesel before, it pulled a little easier on the hills and of course the exhaust brake was nice. I get about 15-17 mpg on the high way empty and about 8-9 pulling the trailer. YMMV. The econ mode comes and goes when the truck is empty, I'm not bothered by it at this time. I have 74K miles and all it's had is service work on. Good truck in my experience.

Re: no more diesel trucks RAM2500 6.4 4X4 VS FORD F250 6.2 4X4 [Re: jimgb] #7219391 07/09/18 02:15 PM
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Have the 6.2 Ford, on the road mileage is between 13 and 15. Hwy speed is 75 to 80
Really like the truck and no problems

Re: no more diesel trucks RAM2500 6.4 4X4 VS FORD F250 6.2 4X4 [Re: BowsnRods] #7219420 07/09/18 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: BowsnRods
I had a dodge 2500 6.4 powerwagon, I bought it to tow, it was OK with my boat but has that eco mode and I would have to manually shift or put in tow to keep it from going into eco and shutting down on cylinders to save gas. I didn't buy the truck to save on gas. I traded it in after 6 months and got a dodge 2500 diesel, best decision I could have made.


I thought long and hard about a similar truck a few months ago. It was a very nicely equipped Power Wagon, 12,000 miles, I just couldn’t get over the $49,900 price tag for a used gas truck. Only thing it has that I really wanted was the electric lockers.

Re: no more diesel trucks RAM2500 6.4 4X4 VS FORD F250 6.2 4X4 [Re: jimgb] #7219426 07/09/18 03:03 PM
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What do you need the truck to do? If your not dragging something big and heavy i'd buy a 1/2 ton.

I wouldn't dream of doing it all the time, but I also wouldn't hesitate to hook 10k to the back of any of the properly equipped 1/2 tons for occasional use either.


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I HAVE 11500 5TH WHEEL DONT PULL IT MUCH AND NOT THAT FAR HAD A 2500 RAM 5.9 DIESEL BEFORE DEF AN FORD F250 6.7 IT NEEDS AT LEAST A 3/4 TON TRUCK.
THE FORD BEEN BACK TO DEALER FOR REPAIRS A FEW TIME THE RAM NEVER NEED REPAIR.

Re: no more diesel trucks RAM2500 6.4 4X4 VS FORD F250 6.2 4X4 [Re: jimgb] #7219504 07/09/18 04:05 PM
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I have several 6.2l F350's & one F250.
The 350's are work trucks, 185,000 ~ 344,000 miles.
All have had carrier bearings & u joint replacement, 2 had front wheel bearing replacement, 2 have had alternators, 2 others water pumps & thermostats, 1 radiator, 1 a/c compressor dryer & condenser & hoses, 1 had the rear end rebuilt the rest just routine maintenance & normal wear items.
Of course the one with the highest miles has had the most work, bought it used with no maintenance records.
2 I bought used, 3 new - 6.2l fleet average mpg = 10.18.

The F250 is my daily driver, all miles & driving conditions combined mpg = 13.58.
6.2l / 4:30
Hauls all sorts of stuff & pulls gooseneck with all sorts of stuff tractor, hay, livestock frequently.
Nothing other than routine maintenance & wear items.


The 3:73 ratio will get better mpg empty/lightly loaded, but you give up a very noticeable amount of towing/hauling ability.
With 4:30's the faster you go past 65mph the mpg will suffer, but they pull / haul great.

Cab, Bed & overall configuration all make a difference, best to review the ---> Ford towing gude

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WHY ARE YOU YELLING? (all caps)

I would think pulling 10k+ on a regular basis would always work in a diesel's favor? Love my '14 Mega Cummins.


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WHY ARE YOU YELLING? (all caps)

I would think pulling 10k+ on a regular basis would always work in a diesel's favor? Love my '14 Mega Cummins.



Originally Posted By: jimgb
I HAVE 11500 5TH WHEEL DONT PULL IT MUCH AND NOT THAT FAR

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Originally Posted By: jimgb
I HAVE 11500 5TH WHEEL DONT PULL IT MUCH AND NOT THAT FAR


I know many will scream and call you crazy but depending on what much and far are I would probably still consider a 1/2 ton. A f150 with the heavy payload option is a whole lot more truck than your average run of the mill 1/2 ton and 1/2 tons in general aren't what they used to be.


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Originally Posted By: redchevy
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I HAVE 11500 5TH WHEEL DONT PULL IT MUCH AND NOT THAT FAR


I know many will scream and call you crazy but depending on what much and far are I would probably still consider a 1/2 ton. A f150 with the heavy payload option is a whole lot more truck than your average run of the mill 1/2 ton and 1/2 tons in general aren't what they used to be.


I’m not going to scream but.... I’ll never understand why people buy 1/2 tons. A 3/4 ton that’s equipped similarly will not cost much more and most of the parts that wear a stronger AND a 3/4 ton typically holds its value better.


Originally Posted by Chunky Monkey
Never been to a camping world. I prefer Dick's to be honest.
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I had 3 half-ton trucks between diesels

I honestly didn’t even like pulling my bay boat down to the coast from SA with them. My 5.4 liter didn’t even like having a empty 18’ pipe trailer behind it.

None of these were heavy loads. No where near max rated for the trucks

I pull a 4K trailer about 4-5 times a week most weeks, anywhere from 60-200+ miles round trip. I would HATE to pull this load with a 1/2 ton. No, it’s not really heavy but it’s heavy enough imo to warrant a stouter truck than a 1/2 Ton. I got the diesel because I wanted the extra power. I’ve heard good things about the 6.2 liter but I think I made the solid choice by going with diesel.

Yes, 1/2 Ton trucks are not wht they used to be, but neither are the 3/4 tons.

It does not cost thst much more to operate a diesel and you recoup the additional upfront costs when you sell/trade in. You will always be able to find a buyer for a higher mileage diesel.

And with the price of trucks nowadays, my 4x4 diesel was literally only a few grand more than a gas 1/2 Ton thst I was looking at originally


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Thank you for all your information been driving a diesel for 12 years before that I had gas trucks always used 89 grade gas. Are you using 89 grade or 87 gas.

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Thank you for all your information been driving a diesel for 12 years before that I had gas trucks always used 89 grade gas. Are you using 89 grade or 87 gas.

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I'm about to be in the market for a new truck and am considering a 3/4 ton. Only tow/haul big loads 1-3x per year but when I do it maxes out my Ram 1500 suspension. Motor, tranny and brakes seem to do fine.

I can't wrap my head around the $9k additional cost of the diesel. Would have to drive 300k+ to "save" money with better fuel efficiency. A new 1/2 ton the way I would want it would be $53-55K while a gas Powerwagon is only $57k. I prefer to buy used but price differences are similar.


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Ford needs to echo boost a big block V8 with a 10 speed trans and .430 gears. This is America no the UK or EU.

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Originally Posted By: TEXASLEFTY
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Originally Posted By: jimgb
I HAVE 11500 5TH WHEEL DONT PULL IT MUCH AND NOT THAT FAR


I know many will scream and call you crazy but depending on what much and far are I would probably still consider a 1/2 ton. A f150 with the heavy payload option is a whole lot more truck than your average run of the mill 1/2 ton and 1/2 tons in general aren't what they used to be.


I’m not going to scream but.... I’ll never understand why people buy 1/2 tons. A 3/4 ton that’s equipped similarly will not cost much more and most of the parts that wear a stronger AND a 3/4 ton typically holds its value better.


If you want a truck, buy a half ton
If you need a truck, buy a 3/4 ton
If you really need a truck, buy a 1 ton

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Originally Posted By: TEXASLEFTY
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I HAVE 11500 5TH WHEEL DONT PULL IT MUCH AND NOT THAT FAR


I know many will scream and call you crazy but depending on what much and far are I would probably still consider a 1/2 ton. A f150 with the heavy payload option is a whole lot more truck than your average run of the mill 1/2 ton and 1/2 tons in general aren't what they used to be.


I’m not going to scream but.... I’ll never understand why people buy 1/2 tons. A 3/4 ton that’s equipped similarly will not cost much more and most of the parts that wear a stronger AND a 3/4 ton typically holds its value better.


If I was commercially driving or a hot shot driver or really used it a lot monthly or so I would see your point. We towed a 7,500 lb travel trailer for years with a 1994 chevy 1500 and it lasted 265k miles and sold it running fine. Todays 1/2 tons are 2 times the truck that was easily.

I wouldn't want to tow it far or every day or even every month but it sounds more like the OP has a 5th wheel parked at a campground that might not even move every year, doesn't sound like a great reason to buy a 3/4 ton and he could save 5 mpg with a 1/2er.


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I have about 61k on a 4x4 2500 6.4 gas motor. First gas motor since 1999. Its plenty stout to pull my 921 Phoenix bass boat and whatever I put on my low boy trailer. Rides like a log wagon and get about 15. Good truck for a tall guy.

Wheel wells are so large I was able to put 34 inch tires on mine without a lift and it doesn't rub.

I like mine. My last two truck have been Dodge's. I have 2005, 3500 4x4 in the driveway with 71k original miles on it, 5.9 Cummins.


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Originally Posted By: redchevy
We towed a 7,500 lb travel trailer for years with a 1994 chevy 1500 and it lasted 265k miles and sold it running fine. Todays 1/2 tons are 2 times the truck that was easily.

I wouldn't want to tow it far or every day or even every month but it sounds more like the OP has a 5th wheel parked at a campground that might not even move every year, doesn't sound like a great reason to buy a 3/4 ton and he could save 5 mpg with a 1/2er.




Define "Tow"



Did you pull it doing 60-65 mph or were you on the shoulder doing 45?


I was stuck behind a person pulling a medium size bumper pull with a ford explorer the other day. We never hit more than 50 mph. IMO that is not "towing"


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I have the RAM 2500 6.4L with 35K miles. No issues yet, regular oil changes etc. averages right at 15.5MPG or if I baby it, 17MPG.

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