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#7166613 - 05/10/18 10:55 PM Train Train Train
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Youíve got to train your [censored] off if you want to win.

Went to our annual pistol qualification today at 8pm. As I do every Monday I inspected my pistol, everything checked out good. During the qual, on the 3rd string of fire I had a spent round get stuck in the pipe and the next round was trying to take its place. I did the tap rack procedure and saw the fail so moved to Rip Reload Rack and cleated the issue. I wasnít fast enough to get the last 2 shots off, 3 out of 5 didnít sit well with me. If we shoot over a 90 on every qual we get a shooting bar and numbers are added for every 3 years you stay above 90. Get a 10 on your shooting bar and your name goes up on a wall. My step dads name is on that wall, and I want mine on that damn wall. Having 2 rounds missing from the target will not keep you above 90.

As a result of the stoppage, and my ability to clear it without hesitation, the shooting staff gave me the 2 rounds. They were just happy I didnít give up like a lot do. Ended the qual with a 99.2, I dropped 2 rounds outside of the 10 ring.

In my haste to leave the house, I didnít grab my clear glasses and had to shoot at night wearing sunglasses.

Train train train, it will be the difference in winning or losing.


Edited by BigPig (05/10/18 11:01 PM)
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#7166635 - 05/10/18 11:17 PM Re: Train Train Train [Re: BigPig]
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Lots of lessons in there.

What ammo and pistol were you using?

Thank you for taking time to post and well done. up cheers

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#7166658 - 05/10/18 11:56 PM Re: Train Train Train [Re: BigPig]
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You will get it. What kind of idiot wheres sunglasses to an indoor shoot?
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#7166663 - 05/11/18 12:06 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: 2Beez]
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Originally Posted By: 2Beez
You will get it. What kind of idiot wheres sunglasses to an indoor shoot?


Outdoors at night. We arenít FTW, we train in the elements like real men
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Ever spit it out rather than swallow it?

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Enjoy it while you can. One day you might be complaining about NOT getting random pop-ups in the morning. grin

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#7166668 - 05/11/18 12:32 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
Originally Posted By: 2Beez
You will get it. What kind of idiot wheres sunglasses to an indoor shoot?


Outdoors at night. We aren’t FTW, we train in the elements like real men
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#7166717 - 05/11/18 06:11 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
As a result of the stoppage, and my ability to clear it without hesitation, the shooting staff gave me the 2 rounds. They were just happy I didnít give up like a lot do.


^^That is from handling and shooting a pistol a whole bunch. Same can be said with the AR, and the bolt action. Ammo has problems, dirty, something comes loose, shoot enough rounds and you will see it, and remember what to do next time.

Well done.
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#7166748 - 05/11/18 07:23 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
As a result of the stoppage, and my ability to clear it without hesitation, the shooting staff gave me the 2 rounds. They were just happy I didnít give up like a lot do.


^^That is from handling and shooting a pistol a whole bunch. Same can be said with the AR, and the bolt action. Ammo has problems, dirty, something comes loose, shoot enough rounds and you will see it, and remember what to do next time.

Well done.


Concur, but some brands have more defects than others. Winchester moved their ammo production and their rate of defects went up. Last year, a Winchester white box pistol round split open length wise on me. I was at an instructor course and several in the room commented on Winchester ammo problems in the last year, which is why I asked. Remington also received poor feedback.




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#7166770 - 05/11/18 07:46 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: BigPig]
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Of course, Jeff. The same can be said for brands of firearms.

I am working my way toward running only hand loads in my pistols, same as my rifles. And for the same reasons as the rifles, I can build better, and more reliable ammo than the mass production machine can.
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#7166803 - 05/11/18 08:12 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig


In my haste to leave the house, I didnít grab my clear glasses and had to shoot at night wearing sunglasses.



Good thing you didn't forget anything else peep
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#7166811 - 05/11/18 08:26 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: BigPig]
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sandbagging for the rifle match bolt
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#7166815 - 05/11/18 08:30 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
Originally Posted By: 2Beez
You will get it. What kind of idiot wheres sunglasses to an indoor shoot?


Outdoors at night. We arenít FTW, we train in the elements like real men


I've shot on your range in a downpour and when I dumped my mag it sunk like the Titanic. Training in all weather conditions is important.

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#7166896 - 05/11/18 10:03 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: Choctaw]
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Originally Posted By: Choctaw
Originally Posted By: BigPig
Originally Posted By: 2Beez
You will get it. What kind of idiot wheres sunglasses to an indoor shoot?


Outdoors at night. We arenít FTW, we train in the elements like real men


I've shot on your range in a downpour and when I dumped my mag it sunk like the Titanic. Training in all weather conditions is important.


This is right along the lines of the types of rifle matches where we use all kinds of fixed objects to suoport the rifle. When you're challenged like that, you learn from the veterans, and figure out how to adapt a position to get the rifle still. Odd-ball ranges, to go with it. Rarely is something at an even 100 yard line. More like 417, 587, 729, ect. Make hits in those conditions, and you are in much better shape while hunting. You can use the truck, the trailer, the barb wire fence, the tree limb, and so on.
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#7167006 - 05/11/18 11:44 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: jeffbird]
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Originally Posted By: jeffbird
Lots of lessons in there.

What ammo and pistol were you using?

Thank you for taking time to post and well done. up cheers


Hornady Critical Duty, in my case the beloved 357Sig. My department went away from Winchester white box about 4 years ago because of too many failures. With the number of rounds they buy per year, all at one time, and the number they find defective, it will make you never look at Winchester ammo again.

Like JG said, it can happen to any of them. I didnít retrieve the case that jammed to see what happened, so I canít tell you if it was the guns fault or the ammo. The most common failure in the 357 Sig round is seating to deep and causing over pressure which usually splits the case.

Since I clean or inspect my gun every Monday, I take the round out of the chamber, strip a few rounds out of a random magazine, and place the round somewhere in the stack. Continuously loading the same round back into the chamber can cause issues like I mentioned above.
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Ever spit it out rather than swallow it?

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Enjoy it while you can. One day you might be complaining about NOT getting random pop-ups in the morning. grin

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#7167876 - 05/12/18 10:24 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: BigPig]
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Losing sucks big time, be it on the range, the street, or down on the border.

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#7170226 - 05/15/18 05:33 AM Re: Train Train Train [Re: BigPig]
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Lots of good information here. I appreciate that you are willing to tell what happened to help others. Thanks. up

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