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#7165215 - 05/09/18 04:16 PM CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted
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Here: http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/1911-information/

Read the instructions very carefully.

CMP 1911 pricing:

CMP has priced the 1911 type pistols at fair market value in accordance with CMP's enabling legislation.

Service Grade $1050. Pistol may exhibit minor pitting and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition.

Field Grade $950. Pistol may exhibit minor rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition.

Rack Grade $850. Pistol will exhibit rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips may be incomplete and exhibit cracks. Pistol requires minor work to return to issuable condition.

Auction Grade (Sales will to be determined by auctioning the pistol). The condition of the auction pistol will be described when posted for auction. Note: If you have already purchased a 1911 from CMP you will not be allowed to purchase an auction 1911. If you purchase an auction 1911, your name will be pulled from the sequenced list. No repeat purchasers are allowed until all orders received have been filled.

The shipping cost is included in the price.

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#7165292 - 05/09/18 06:03 PM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: jeffbird]
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I wonder how many of these Turnbull will buy and restore and triple his money???
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#7165308 - 05/09/18 06:26 PM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
I wonder how many of these Turnbull will buy and restore and triple his money???


In the details, the rules limit purchases to one per person until all orders are filled.

The reality is they will be flooded with orders that will never be filled, so there is a random lottery for a person to purchase one.

So, Turnbull may be able to buy one, but not more, other than on the secondary market.

Note that a person may buy one through either the lottery or the auction, but not both.

Just guessing some of the auction prices will be brisk to breath-taking.
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#7165376 - 05/09/18 07:59 PM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: jeffbird]
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I get that itís a WW2 1911. However, $300-400 more than a brand new Ruger, kimber, Colt, Springfield, Para, Remington, or RIA really kills all of the attraction to me.

The CMP was doing d@mn good with the M1 Garand rifles. The 1911 will be sold only to a collector, that really wants a wartime piece.
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#7165409 - 05/09/18 08:36 PM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: jeffbird]
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1) They have to cover their expenses
Cleaning, inspection, storage, paperwork, answering hate mail, etc
2) All profit goes back to the shooting sports
Youth programs, CMP Games, Leg Matches, Distinguished Shooters, etc

If you have to pick and choose your charities, it's not a bad one to support.
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#7165410 - 05/09/18 08:37 PM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: Tactical Cowboy]
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You haven't priced a USGI 1911 lately have you? Using the Service grade as an example, that's $500 bellow going market rate for just a run of the mill service grade common Remington Rand. Now if the pistol is nice (and many service grade Garands I have received from the CMP have been exceptional) or say it is an early war gun or a desirable maker - that could easily be bellow 1/2th the actual value of the pistol. I've not been paying attention to what they are doing as my collecting interest lie elsewhere now and maybe they plan to auction off all the more desirable 1911's but still, a person stands to get a pretty good deal there. You can't walk into any gunshow or gunshop in the country and buy a USGI 1911 for $1000 anymore. Unless you are talking one of the recent Colt M45A1's that made it to the market after Marine use, no pistol you mention will have any sort of history or provenance to it like a USGI 1911.

Earl

Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
I get that it’s a WW2 1911. However, $300-400 more than a brand new Ruger, kimber, Colt, Springfield, Para, Remington, or RIA really kills all of the attraction to me.

The CMP was doing d@mn good with the M1 Garand rifles. The 1911 will be sold only to a collector, that really wants a wartime piece.


Edited by Earl (05/09/18 08:39 PM)
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#7165860 - 05/10/18 11:05 AM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: Earl]
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Originally Posted By: Earl
You haven't priced a USGI 1911 lately have you? Using the Service grade as an example, that's $500 bellow going market rate for just a run of the mill service grade common Remington Rand. Now if the pistol is nice (and many service grade Garands I have received from the CMP have been exceptional) or say it is an early war gun or a desirable maker - that could easily be bellow 1/2th the actual value of the pistol. I've not been paying attention to what they are doing as my collecting interest lie elsewhere now and maybe they plan to auction off all the more desirable 1911's but still, a person stands to get a pretty good deal there. You can't walk into any gunshow or gunshop in the country and buy a USGI 1911 for $1000 anymore. Unless you are talking one of the recent Colt M45A1's that made it to the market after Marine use, no pistol you mention will have any sort of history or provenance to it like a USGI 1911.

Earl

Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
I get that it’s a WW2 1911. However, $300-400 more than a brand new Ruger, kimber, Colt, Springfield, Para, Remington, or RIA really kills all of the attraction to me.

The CMP was doing d@mn good with the M1 Garand rifles. The 1911 will be sold only to a collector, that really wants a wartime piece.


Youíre missing my point. Nobody is making M1 Garands, 03 Springfieldís , enfields, etc anymore. CMP does a great job at actually fitting those rifles (much better than Billy Bob thatís sitting in his garage with a bucket of parts) and the price is extremely reasonable.

Everybody and their dog is making a 1911 now. Did they see wartime use? Obviously not. Are they new, cheaper, better fit, have decent sights, better safeties, and come with any other features you want? Yes.

Thatís why I say theyíll sell plenty to collectors. But then again, there are a lot of gun owners out there that arenít really shooters.


Edited by Tactical Cowboy (05/10/18 11:19 AM)
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#7166016 - 05/10/18 02:13 PM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: jeffbird]
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That pricing is lower than I anticipated. I doubt they would have any issue selling them at 1.5 times those prices if they wanted to.

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#7166192 - 05/10/18 04:41 PM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: Tactical Cowboy]
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Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
Originally Posted By: Earl
You haven't priced a USGI 1911 lately have you? Using the Service grade as an example, that's $500 bellow going market rate for just a run of the mill service grade common Remington Rand. Now if the pistol is nice (and many service grade Garands I have received from the CMP have been exceptional) or say it is an early war gun or a desirable maker - that could easily be bellow 1/2th the actual value of the pistol. I've not been paying attention to what they are doing as my collecting interest lie elsewhere now and maybe they plan to auction off all the more desirable 1911's but still, a person stands to get a pretty good deal there. You can't walk into any gunshow or gunshop in the country and buy a USGI 1911 for $1000 anymore. Unless you are talking one of the recent Colt M45A1's that made it to the market after Marine use, no pistol you mention will have any sort of history or provenance to it like a USGI 1911.

Earl

Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
I get that it’s a WW2 1911. However, $300-400 more than a brand new Ruger, kimber, Colt, Springfield, Para, Remington, or RIA really kills all of the attraction to me.

The CMP was doing d@mn good with the M1 Garand rifles. The 1911 will be sold only to a collector, that really wants a wartime piece.


Youíre missing my point. Nobody is making M1 Garands, 03 Springfieldís , enfields, etc anymore. CMP does a great job at actually fitting those rifles (much better than Billy Bob thatís sitting in his garage with a bucket of parts) and the price is extremely reasonable.

Everybody and their dog is making a 1911 now. Did they see wartime use? Obviously not. Are they new, cheaper, better fit, have decent sights, better safeties, and come with any other features you want? Yes.

Thatís why I say theyíll sell plenty to collectors. But then again, there are a lot of gun owners out there that arenít really shooters.


I agree......to each their own. I would rather purchase a Colt government model 70's series made during that decade that's never been shot with the original box. One of my favorites to shoot in 9mm. But I shoot what ever I collect.
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#7166508 - 05/10/18 09:05 PM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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Yep it depends on what floats an individuals boat. Everyone may be making 1911's these days but no one other than the few Kimber Special Ops and the 5000 or so Colt M45A1's have made US armed forces issued 1911's in 73 years. These represent the first USGI '45's to be released on the market in 50 years not counting the ones I just mentioned. They have a historical value that no other 1911 has. No, they are not better functionally in any way from the Springfield Armory TRP or Colt Series 70 CCO Gunsite that I own and paid about the same amount for. But the CMP sold USGI 1911s have a historical and collector appeal that my more recent 1911's never will. The other big plus for them. If a person doesn't really know their USGI 1911's, they can really be taken to the cleaners in the secondary market between aftermarket frames, refinished guns, incorrect parts, etc...the CMP guns offer a chance to obtain a genuine certified USGI 1911 that while it definitely probably has gone thru one or more government arsenal reworks at least you know Billy Bob wasn't doing crap to it in his garage.

Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
Originally Posted By: Earl
You haven't priced a USGI 1911 lately have you? Using the Service grade as an example, that's $500 bellow going market rate for just a run of the mill service grade common Remington Rand. Now if the pistol is nice (and many service grade Garands I have received from the CMP have been exceptional) or say it is an early war gun or a desirable maker - that could easily be bellow 1/2th the actual value of the pistol. I've not been paying attention to what they are doing as my collecting interest lie elsewhere now and maybe they plan to auction off all the more desirable 1911's but still, a person stands to get a pretty good deal there. You can't walk into any gunshow or gunshop in the country and buy a USGI 1911 for $1000 anymore. Unless you are talking one of the recent Colt M45A1's that made it to the market after Marine use, no pistol you mention will have any sort of history or provenance to it like a USGI 1911.

Earl

Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
I get that it’s a WW2 1911. However, $300-400 more than a brand new Ruger, kimber, Colt, Springfield, Para, Remington, or RIA really kills all of the attraction to me.

The CMP was doing d@mn good with the M1 Garand rifles. The 1911 will be sold only to a collector, that really wants a wartime piece.


You’re missing my point. Nobody is making M1 Garands, 03 Springfield’s , enfields, etc anymore. CMP does a great job at actually fitting those rifles (much better than Billy Bob that’s sitting in his garage with a bucket of parts) and the price is extremely reasonable.

Everybody and their dog is making a 1911 now. Did they see wartime use? Obviously not. Are they new, cheaper, better fit, have decent sights, better safeties, and come with any other features you want? Yes.

That’s why I say they’ll sell plenty to collectors. But then again, there are a lot of gun owners out there that aren’t really shooters.


I agree......to each their own. I would rather purchase a Colt government model 70's series made during that decade that's never been shot with the original box. One of my favorites to shoot in 9mm. But I shoot what ever I collect.


Edited by Earl (05/10/18 09:08 PM)
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#7166871 - 05/11/18 09:42 AM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: jeffbird]
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IMO, overpriced relics...

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#7166872 - 05/11/18 09:44 AM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: jeffbird]
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#7166963 - 05/11/18 11:01 AM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: jeffbird]
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I'm totally interested and getting one.

You'll never justify price for something like this which by that makes monetary evaluation. A very subjective thing.
Of course u can't compare a new to one of these. But that not what the price truly reflects.

I've always had this romantic longing, sense I missed out of coming from a family tradition of shooting. Getting something like that fulfills some of that longing because if i did get one that then I'd view it as I paid so much for the physical weapon itself and the rest I willing pay because it satisfies some intristic gun desires I have.

Only question left for me is which grade.

Btw, to those who argue you can get cheaper 1911's on the open market and therefore it's over priced. Then it's equally valid to say there are more expensive so now its underpriced.

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#7167139 - 05/11/18 02:04 PM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: Korean Redneck]
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Originally Posted By: Korean Redneck
I'm totally interested and getting one.

You'll never justify price for something like this which by that makes monetary evaluation. A very subjective thing.
Of course u can't compare a new to one of these. But that not what the price truly reflects.

I've always had this romantic longing, sense I missed out of coming from a family tradition of shooting. Getting something like that fulfills some of that longing because if i did get one that then I'd view it as I paid so much for the physical weapon itself and the rest I willing pay because it satisfies some intristic gun desires I have.

Only question left for me is which grade.

Btw, to those who argue you can get cheaper 1911's on the open market and therefore it's over priced. Then it's equally valid to say there are more expensive so now its underpriced.


Service grade.
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#7168698 - 05/13/18 04:41 PM Re: CMP 1911 Ordering Info Posted [Re: jeffbird]
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So, the description for field and service grade is the same?
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