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#7163290 - 05/07/18 07:17 PM PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol
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Registered: 03/09/09
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Putting this up for general information and a reminder for those with CHL/LTC's, or our guests visiting from other states.

The protocol below is straight from the Texas DPS license to carry instructor's course outline.

The Texas DPS troopers are trained this is what is taught to LTC licensees, so everyone on both sides should be following the same protocol.

Local department officers should know it, but may not. It is a series of steps that should help their mindset to some degree.

Follow this protocol and they know what to expect, so follow this protocol.

Deviate from this protocol, and the warning flags are going to go up in their minds.

A. Have your driver license and LTC immediately accessible†
B. Do not make quick movements, especially when the officer is present or approaching†
C. Have your hands visible on top of the steering wheel as much as possible†
D. If at night, turn dome light on and roll down windows
E. Open all windows so the officer can see in back and other seat
F. Engine off


Most importantly, do not get out of the car unless asked to do so. Then keep hands in plain sight towards the officer.


DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR OR ATTEMPT TO GET OUT OF THE CAR UNLESS REQUESTED TO DO SO!!!!



They are authorized to disarm and take control of the pistol during the stop, and then return it before departing.

Here are some examples of how fast things can turn to SHTF for the cop.




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#7163304 - 05/07/18 07:27 PM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: jeffbird]
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Registered: 08/04/12
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Loc: Greenville, TX
That's funny. Last time I got pulled over, the officer told me I made him nervous because I kept both hands on the steering wheel.
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#7163342 - 05/07/18 08:14 PM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: jeffbird]
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Registered: 09/18/07
Posts: 3162
Loc: Plano, TX
I give them both drivers license and the LTC then do whatever they want. Last year I was in an accident where my poor truck was damaged front and rear and was no longer drivable. It had to be towed off. Seeing as how the other drivers in my family were with me there was no one to come and get us. The officer gave us a ride after removing my carry weapon, unloading it and taking possession of it while he drove us where we needed. When we got there he gave me my guns back (I had another gun in the truck too) - he even loaded my carry piece, holstered it and handed it back.

Earl
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#7163390 - 05/07/18 08:46 PM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: jeffbird]
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Registered: 12/16/08
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Hazards on, as soon as I see warning lights. D.L. and LTC out of the console, then out of the waller it he has not made it to my truck bed yet. If he has, wallet in right hand, left hand on the door, with the window down. Remove both licenses where he can still see both hands. Still have to get insirance out. "I have to reach into the console to get it". "Go ahead". Hand him that.

I usually hear "are you carrying?" Or "do you have your weapon". "Yessir, there is one in a holster on my belt, and one in the door next to me". Then I usually hear, "good, leave them there, and everything will be fine".

I freely admit, they are all probably more at ease with me/us seeing the IAFF sticker on the back of the truck, and that is the major reason it is there, as far as I am concerned.
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#7163462 - 05/07/18 09:39 PM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: jeffbird]
Scott W Online   content
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Registered: 03/08/18
Posts: 126
Loc: Cedar Park, TX
I haven't been pulled over since I got my LTC (looking for wood to knock on). My routine hasn't changed though, roll down windows, turn off ignition and put keys on dash visible to the offficer as he/she walks up, turn on dome light, leave hands visible. I don't reach for my wallet (licenses) or insurance until I'm instructed or asked to do so. I will however, notify that I am carrying, notify the officer that I am carrying and where it's located, which is very near where my wallet is.

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#7163467 - 05/07/18 09:43 PM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Registered: 06/24/09
Posts: 2548
Loc: Houston
Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
That's funny. Last time I got pulled over, the officer told me I made him nervous because I kept both hands on the steering wheel.


I've had that happen once too. Made me laugh and he immediately laughed. Told him it was my first time being pulled over while carrying and thoght it was what I supposed to to do. He something like, the heck of I know. Just asked for my info and nothing else. On the interstate somewhere, state trooper I guess.

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#7163512 - 05/07/18 10:47 PM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: jeffbird]
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Loc: Killeen/Ft Hood, TX
Iím not turning my vehicle off.
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#7163518 - 05/07/18 10:58 PM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: SapperTitan]
2Beez Online   happy
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Registered: 07/17/15
Posts: 10867
Loc: Lake Texoma, TX
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
Iím not turning my vehicle off.


Just curious but why not?
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#7163609 - 05/08/18 06:54 AM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: 2Beez]
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Registered: 06/24/09
Posts: 2548
Loc: Houston
Originally Posted By: 2Beez
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
Iím not turning my vehicle off.


Just curious but why not?


Now that I think about it, never did that for any traffic stop. Didn't know that was actually part of the protocol.

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#7163774 - 05/08/18 09:58 AM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: Korean Redneck]
Scott W Online   content
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Registered: 03/08/18
Posts: 126
Loc: Cedar Park, TX
Originally Posted By: Korean Redneck
Originally Posted By: 2Beez
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
Iím not turning my vehicle off.


Just curious but why not?


Now that I think about it, never did that for any traffic stop. Didn't know that was actually part of the protocol.


The idea, as it was explained to me, was to let the officer know, before he approaches my vehicle, that I am not a threat and have no intentions of not cooperating with him. You see by the videos above that they have no idea what or who they are walking up to at each and every traffic stop and a routine traffic stop can turn deadly in a split second. By turning off the ignition, I am letting him know that I am not going anywhere. Following this procedure has helped me get some leniency from the officer on a few traffic stops.

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#7163805 - 05/08/18 10:20 AM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: jeffbird]
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Registered: 11/01/12
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Loc: Lubbock, TX
Haven't been pulled over in several years (no ticket since 2003) and not since I got my LTC, but that is the protocol I follow. Last three stops all resulted in warnings but I was only going 7, 6, and 4 over. The 7 was bogus, IMO, fastest I read was 73 during my approach to his location and it was all uphill (cruise was set on 73-4). When he pulled out and hit the lights I assumed he was pulling the semi over that had passed him going the other way. Oh well, still a warning and he was polite.
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#7163869 - 05/08/18 11:03 AM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Registered: 06/29/11
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Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
That's funny. Last time I got pulled over, the officer told me I made him nervous because I kept both hands on the steering wheel.


cop was a good judge of character up
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#7163871 - 05/08/18 11:05 AM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: SapperTitan]
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Registered: 06/29/11
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Loc: Frisco, Texas
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
I’m not turning my vehicle off.


Police chase down I35 , near Killeen bolt
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#7163906 - 05/08/18 11:33 AM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
That's funny. Last time I got pulled over, the officer told me I made him nervous because I kept both hands on the steering wheel.



Because you have intimidating camouflage arms

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#7163928 - 05/08/18 11:50 AM Re: PSA - LTC Traffic Stop TxDPS Protocol [Re: jeffbird]
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Registered: 08/18/12
Posts: 10928
Loc: Chambers County
If I'm in the 7.3, I shut the engine down otherwise we wouldn't be able to hear one another. My truck or the jeep its case by case, too hot, kids with me, etc will determine if I shut the engine down.

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