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#7160946 - 05/05/18 08:09 AM Alchohol and carrying heat
Buzzsaw Offline
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Another thread made me post this.

If you go out to dinner where you will be drinking, do you leave your gun(s) at home?

Slippery slope, both this and driving are against the law if over the legal "limit".

I wont carry but I tend to forget about my truck gun which never leaves its place.
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#7160961 - 05/05/18 08:18 AM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: Buzzsaw]
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It's easy for me. My department policy says I can't carry off duty with any alcohol in my system, so I just don't drink when we go out somewhere. I already wouldn't drink anything if I was driving so it's just a small step to include when I'm carrying. I would rather carry than drink.
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#7160962 - 05/05/18 08:19 AM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: Buzzsaw]
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If I know Iím going to partake I will leave it at home, the possible trouble just isnít worth it. If the evening turns into a late night I will put it under the back seat in the little compartment. I believe itís just as important to protect yourself legally as it is to protect yourself physically. Just my .02
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#7161163 - 05/05/18 12:34 PM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: Buzzsaw]
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#7161186 - 05/05/18 01:05 PM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: Bar-D]
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Originally Posted By: Bar-D


And there^^ is the answer.

Lost control of normal faculties OR a blood alcohol level of .08
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#7161284 - 05/05/18 04:15 PM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: Buzzsaw]
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This is why I don't have a LTC.......

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#7161313 - 05/05/18 05:11 PM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: snake oil]
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Originally Posted By: snake oil
This is why I don't have a LTC.......


It is the same as having a driverís license.

Originally Posted By: Grizz
It's easy for me. I would rather carry than drink.


This is my feeling. I had to quit a few years ago because of problems Tylenol was causing to me. I have not missed it and feel better overall.

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#7161554 - 05/06/18 05:58 AM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: snake oil]
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Originally Posted By: snake oil
This is why I don't have a LTC.......


With you being able to carry in your vehicle, I really don't see much reason to have a CHL/LTC now of days.

Maybe if you traveled a lot in the USA it would be good to have

I think you can get a license from Vermont for like $40 and be legal in Texas.

I don't like the police knowing I have a LTC/CHL when I get pulled over, I am pro cop but I just don't want to get the rookie who tries to be billy bad arse........

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#7161556 - 05/06/18 06:03 AM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: Bar-D


And there^^ is the answer.

Lost control of normal faculties OR a blood alcohol level of .08


Question?

So if you don't have a CHL/LTC then this doesn't apply to you? If you have a concealed weapon in your car?

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#7161691 - 05/06/18 09:54 AM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: RedRanger]
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Originally Posted By: RedRanger
Originally Posted By: snake oil
This is why I don't have a LTC.......


With you being able to carry in your vehicle, I really don't see much reason to have a CHL/LTC now of days.

Maybe if you traveled a lot in the USA it would be good to have

I think you can get a license from Vermont for like $40 and be legal in Texas.

I don't like the police knowing I have a LTC/CHL when I get pulled over, I am pro cop but I just don't want to get the rookie who tries to be billy bad arse........



The reason for the license is to carry it from the vehicle into the business. Without the license you are in "unlawful carry".

I am friends with lots of Police officers. The majority, by a wide margin, are relieved to see a LTC. That license proves you are not a felon or a known scumbag. The rookie that over reacts (which I see as a tiny chance) isn't going to harm you if you comply with his commands. Do what the Police say, Police don't shoot you.
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#7161695 - 05/06/18 09:56 AM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: RedRanger]
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Originally Posted By: RedRanger
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: Bar-D


And there^^ is the answer.

Lost control of normal faculties OR a blood alcohol level of .08


Question?

So if you don't have a CHL/LTC then this doesn't apply to you? If you have a concealed weapon in your car?



Any firearm, knife, club in your vehicle falls under the Texas Castle Law. And yes, .08 B.A.C. does in fact apply to you. You are operating a deadly weapon (automobile) and are in posession of another potential deadly weapon, firearm.
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#7161717 - 05/06/18 10:24 AM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: Buzzsaw]
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The problem is the slippery slope. One drink leads to another. Then you donít have the judgment needed to put your weapon away.

Guy starts out fine intending not to drink or just have one, one leads to more - never takes his gun out of his waistband. Iíve seen it several times.
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#7161960 - 05/06/18 02:56 PM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Yep, nice guys can turn mean and mean guys can turn nice with too much booze.
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#7162031 - 05/06/18 04:41 PM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: RedRanger]
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Originally Posted By: RedRanger
Originally Posted By: snake oil
This is why I don't have a LTC.......


With you being able to carry in your vehicle, I really don't see much reason to have a CHL/LTC now of days.

Maybe if you traveled a lot in the USA it would be good to have

I think you can get a license from Vermont for like $40 and be legal in Texas.

I don't like the police knowing I have a LTC/CHL when I get pulled over, I am pro cop but I just don't want to get the rookie who tries to be billy bad arse........



It wont take him long to know you have an LTC. He will know before he walks up to your vehicle. You best NOT try and keep anything from him. Just my .02
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#7162040 - 05/06/18 04:57 PM Re: Alchohol and carrying heat [Re: RedRanger]
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Originally Posted By: RedRanger
Originally Posted By: snake oil
This is why I don't have a LTC.......


With you being able to carry in your vehicle, I really don't see much reason to have a CHL/LTC now of days.

Maybe if you traveled a lot in the USA it would be good to have

I think you can get a license from Vermont for like $40 and be legal in Texas.

I don't like the police knowing I have a LTC/CHL when I get pulled over, I am pro cop but I just don't want to get the rookie who tries to be billy bad arse........



The Virginia loophole. Watch a video, take a test and you are legal in Texas. People that don't pass background check in Texas can pass theirs sometimes and get a license good in Texas.

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