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#7160707 - 05/04/18 08:21 PM Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting
Goodo Texas Boy Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/22/17
Posts: 150
Loc: Houston Texas
Hello,

My co worker invited me to his ranch to shoot some hogs that has been a problem for him. I live in Texas. This is literally my first time shooting.
There is deer feeder where the owner says the hogs like to eat.

I go to the stand and sit in there with my AR-15 shooting .223 rounds with a scope. .

3 hogs pass by and I shoot on near the rib cage. The hog takes off running. I go look for blood and do not see none. It was raining as well. I am sure I hit the hog.

Another hog pass by, I shoot in the rib cage and same thing, the hog takes off running. I don't see any blood. Maybe I missed.

1. Is an AR-15, 223 or 556 recommended for hog hunting? I am seriously thinking of going buy a big caliber rifle tomorrow with scope.
2. What is the recommended rifle for deer and hog hunting at 50-200 yards away? What scope do you recommend? I will be hunting in Texas. I am not sure AR-15 is stronger enough for me as newbie.

Thank you


Edited by Goodo Texas Boy (05/04/18 08:37 PM)

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#7160713 - 05/04/18 08:24 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
SapperTitan Offline
Taking Requests

Registered: 11/17/10
Posts: 26309
Loc: Killeen/Ft Hood, TX
Bad shot placement especially with 223. Shoot them behind the ear or center of neck.
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#7160716 - 05/04/18 08:30 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: SapperTitan]
Goodo Texas Boy Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/22/17
Posts: 150
Loc: Houston Texas
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
Bad shot placement especially with 223. Shoot them behind the ear or center of neck.


Thank you SapperTitan,

I believe you are correct, after talking to the rancher he said the same thing. He said shooting hog with a AR-15, 223 in the body will not drop them instantly. I did not know this and I stay in the stand for like 5 hours too.

What type of rifle can I use to shoot hog in the body and cause big impact?

Thanks

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#7160725 - 05/04/18 08:41 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
SapperTitan Offline
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Registered: 11/17/10
Posts: 26309
Loc: Killeen/Ft Hood, TX
Any of the 30 caliber rifles like the 308 can and will drop a hog if you hit them in the shoulder, neck, or head but any descent size hog is gonna run with a lung or even heart shot most the time. They might not make it far but they will almost always run unless you turn their lights out or paralyze them.
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I plowed mules.



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#7160746 - 05/04/18 09:04 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: SapperTitan]
Goodo Texas Boy Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/22/17
Posts: 150
Loc: Houston Texas
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
Any of the 30 caliber rifles like the 308 can and will drop a hog if you hit them in the shoulder, neck, or head but any descent size hog is gonna run with a lung or even heart shot most the time. They might not make it far but they will almost always run unless you turn their lights out or paralyze them.


Thank you.

Sorry if this is a silly question.

What does "any of the 30 caliber rifles" mean?

Thanks

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#7160753 - 05/04/18 09:09 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
SapperTitan Offline
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Registered: 11/17/10
Posts: 26309
Loc: Killeen/Ft Hood, TX
Originally Posted By: Goodo Texas Boy
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
Any of the 30 caliber rifles like the 308 can and will drop a hog if you hit them in the shoulder, neck, or head but any descent size hog is gonna run with a lung or even heart shot most the time. They might not make it far but they will almost always run unless you turn their lights out or paralyze them.


Thank you.

Sorry if this is a silly question.

What does "any of the 30 caliber rifles" mean?

Thanks
308, 30-06, 30-30, 300win,

The point is a larger caliber isnít gonna knock a hog down with a bad shot or even a lung or heart shot. Shot placement is important no matter the caliber. Many hogs are killed every year with smaller calibers just got to hit them in the right spot.
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I plowed mules.



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#7160784 - 05/04/18 09:39 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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Bird Dog

Registered: 10/09/15
Posts: 327
Loc: Arizona
What bullets were you using in the AR?
If FMJ they don't work well for hunting, don't use varmint bullets either.
There is loaded ammo with real hunting bullets such as Nosler Partition and Barnes TSX, not cheap but you don't need many if just used for hunting.
Best solution is to get a bolt action (Remington, Savage, Tika, etc) in 270 or 30 caliber as discribed above. A 3-9x scope. Check pawn shops for used ones.

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#7160790 - 05/04/18 09:50 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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Registered: 12/01/08
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Any time hunting hogs, draw a mental line between the eyes of the hog and the point of his shoulder. Any shot along that line will anchor your hog very nicely. I once shot a hog with a 9.3x62 (286 gr bullet @ 2400 fps) right behind the shoulder. There were lung fragments all over the ground, but the hog still made it about 80 yards through fairly thick brush. I was very lucky to find him.

Repeat after me: "Body shots on hogs are bad news."

I'm not saying they won't drop hogs on the spot. They can and will, but you can never really tell where and when.
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#7160799 - 05/04/18 10:03 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: SapperTitan]
Goodo Texas Boy Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/22/17
Posts: 150
Loc: Houston Texas
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
308, 30-06, 30-30, 300win,

The point is a larger caliber isnít gonna knock a hog down with a bad shot or even a lung or heart shot. Shot placement is important no matter the caliber. Many hogs are killed every year with smaller calibers just got to hit them in the right spot.


Thank you SapperTitan,

I am learning now. I shot the hogs here http://prntscr.com/jdxrfz. I did not know to shoot in the shoulder or head if using a bigger caliber rifle.

So if I buy a 308 (or any of the 30 caliber) rifle, I should aim for the hog shoulder, neck, or head?
But for the smaller calibers (AR-15 223 or 556) I need to aim at the head near the ears?

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#7160807 - 05/04/18 10:12 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
SapperTitan Offline
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Registered: 11/17/10
Posts: 26309
Loc: Killeen/Ft Hood, TX
Originally Posted By: Goodo Texas Boy
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
308, 30-06, 30-30, 300win,

The point is a larger caliber isnít gonna knock a hog down with a bad shot or even a lung or heart shot. Shot placement is important no matter the caliber. Many hogs are killed every year with smaller calibers just got to hit them in the right spot.


Thank you SapperTitan,

I am learning now. I shot the hogs here http://prntscr.com/jdxrfz. I did not know to shoot in the shoulder or head if using a bigger caliber rifle.

So if I buy a 308 (or any of the 30 caliber) rifle, I should aim for the hog shoulder, neck, or head?
But for the smaller calibers (AR-15 223 or 556) I need to aim at the head near the ears?
pretty much. If you shot those hogs that far back they are guy shot or you might have hit liver, both are deadly but the hogs will run a long ways.
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I plowed mules.



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#7160818 - 05/04/18 10:22 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
TexasTURhunter Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 10/12/16
Posts: 78
Shot placement is critical to drop a pig. Even a 20 pounder might make it 25 yards if shot through the lungs with a 223

Brain shots, base of the neck, or spine shots are just about the only way to ensure he falls over on impact

Take a look below. As stated above... anything behind the shoulder will give a pig time to run (sometimes a very long time to run)


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#7160831 - 05/04/18 10:46 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: MClark]
Goodo Texas Boy Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/22/17
Posts: 150
Loc: Houston Texas
Originally Posted By: MClark

Best solution is to get a bolt action (Remington, Savage, Tika, etc) in 270 or 30 caliber as described above. A 3-9x scope. Check pawn shops for used ones.


Thanks MClark,

There is a gun show on 5/19 in Houston. I never bought a used rifle before. How I know if the used rifle will not have mechanical issues. I really rather just buy new.

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#7160838 - 05/04/18 10:56 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: SapperTitan]
Goodo Texas Boy Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/22/17
Posts: 150
Loc: Houston Texas
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
[quote=Goodo Texas Boy][quote=SapperTitan]Many hogs are killed every year with smaller calibers just got to hit them in the right spot.


SapperTitan,

And just to clarify,with a 223/556 (AR-15) the spot needs to be near the hog ear? Can the shot not be on the shoulder?

Thanks.

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#7160842 - 05/04/18 11:13 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: syncerus]
Goodo Texas Boy Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/22/17
Posts: 150
Loc: Houston Texas
Originally Posted By: syncerus
Any time hunting hogs, draw a mental line between the eyes of the hog and the point of his shoulder. Any shot along that line will anchor your hog very nicely. I once shot a hog with a 9.3x62 (286 gr bullet @ 2400 fps) right behind the shoulder. There were lung fragments all over the ground, but the hog still made it about 80 yards through fairly thick brush. I was very lucky to find him.

Repeat after me: "Body shots on hogs are bad news."

I'm not saying they won't drop hogs on the spot. They can and will, but you can never really tell where and when.


Thank you syncerus,

"Body shots on hogs are bad news."

Also body shots with a smaller caliber is really bad news from what I am reading.

Well, this is Exactly what I did today. I shot 2 hogs behind the shoulder on the body, and the took off running in the deep trees.

Does this mean the 223/556 (AR-15) can not drop a hog on the shoulder either?

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#7160844 - 05/04/18 11:15 PM Re: Newbie Rifle Recommended for Hog and Deer Hunting [Re: SapperTitan]
Goodo Texas Boy Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/22/17
Posts: 150
Loc: Houston Texas
Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
pretty much. If you shot those hogs that far back they are guy shot or you might have hit liver, both are deadly but the hogs will run a long ways.


Thanks SapperTitan,

What does guy shot mean?

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