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#7155279 - 04/29/18 10:47 PM New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance
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Registered: 08/22/17
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Hello All,

I am 38 year old black male and currently live in Houston Texas. I recently getting into hunting deer, mainly from watching alot of Outdoor and Sportsman channel and working in a chemical plant. It seems like everyone I work with hunts for deer every year and I would like to go hunting as well and harvest a deer and bring some meat to family members for our first time eating deer meat. Also, this can be my hobby as life continues on.

My cousin and I are planning a guided hunt this year or next year. Right now, we are just trying to practice shooting so we get comfortable with our aim and we do not hurt/suffer the deer and get a good reliable shot.

Well, I am not sure where to start, so I figure I start with a rifle and purchased this https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/mp-15-sport-ii.

Q1. Do you recommend hunting deer in Texas with AR-15? If not, what rifle you recommend for me? Most guys I talk to state a 30-06 will work well for me.
Q2. What scope do you use with AR-15?
Q3. How do I practice my aiming? I go to an outdoor shooting range in Houston where I target shoot from 50 to 300 yards. http://www.amshootcenters.com I can go to 600 yards, but I have qualify for that range.
Q4. Can you recommend a rifle stand? I was using that bean bags attached, but I want have that stand when shooting deer. https://www.amazon.com/CVLIFE-Inches-Tac...K1KGFYBHSQGHPXD
Q5. Should I continue practicing with the front sights or buy a scope and starting practicing with scope at different ranges?

So far I learned how to clean the rifle. And also went shooting today at 50 yards range with just the front sights. My aim sucks. I was sitting on a bench with some bean bags to hold the rifle still. It was fun. I figure I might as well get use to the sights. i will go up to 100 yards after I master 50 yards with the front sights.

I am sure these questions are easy for some, but I am just starting out and never hunted before or really shot alot with rifles. I have took a safety training course. I am not in a rush, I am sure I have alot to learn, just have to be patient and enjoy the process.

Thank you all for the time.

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Edited by Goodo Texas Boy (04/29/18 10:55 PM)

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#7155348 - 04/30/18 07:08 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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You can hunt deer with the AR15. It would not be the first rifle that comes to mind, but it is doable. I have several that I mainly use on hogs but deer as well. For first time rifle shooting, it would be easier on you with a bolt action rifle and scope. This type of set up is easier to learn to shoot accurately at 100 yards.

If you decide to get this setup I would recommend a Tikka rifle with a decent scope in the 2-12x44 power range. There are many adequate calibers for deer. If you want a caliber that covers most big game in the US 30.06 would be a good fit. 270 is my favorite for starting out. Shooting 130 grain bullets would be great for white tail without a lot of recoil to get used to.

The problem with your AR is its difficult to mount a scope on that version that would give you a good scope height and cheek weld on the stock. These requirements are real important to make things easier to learn so you are proficient at 100 yard shots. Also the .223 caliber is very capable of killing a deer, but your room for error for lethal shots is smaller because of the smaller caliber limitations.

You are also trying to learn to shoot with a mil spec trigger in the AR. That is much more difficult to shoot accurately at distances past 50 yards. I recommend a drop in trigger like a CMC. You will find it much easier to shoot accurately with a trigger change.

Ask the rifle range that you shoot at if they have any shooting instruction that they offer. This could be of great help to you leaning the basics. Also, YouTube has lots of great instructional videos on proper shooting technique and how to hunt just about any animal your interested in. Going on guided hunts is a great way to start once you learn gun safety and how to confidently shoot what your aiming at.

Good luck and have fun. up
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#7155360 - 04/30/18 07:21 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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You might check with the NRA for some training on the shooting aspects. http://www.nrainstructors.org/search.aspx There are instructors all over the state that can help you learn to shoot your rifle and to shoot it better.

Welcome to the family and have FUN!
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#7155374 - 04/30/18 07:42 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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If you were born on or after 09-02-1971, you will need to take a hunter education course:

Hunter Education

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#7155403 - 04/30/18 08:14 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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I echo what PP said.
I believe you will find a bolt action rifle much easier to be accurate with. There are lots of good bolt action rifles and quality scopes on the market today that wonít break the bank. I also believe you would benefit from a larger caliber (.243, 7mm-08, .270, .30-06, etc.).

Learning the basics of proper shooting form is paramount, just as it is in anything else. A good foundation makes everything else come easier while a poor foundation makes everything harder than it needs to be.

Good luck!
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#7155425 - 04/30/18 08:53 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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Step 1- Get a Tikka .30/06, with a nice Leupold or Nikon scope (3-9)
Step 2- Go to out door range & practice this Summer with knowledgeable guys to help
Step 3- Take some guided hunts this Fall for deer
Step 4- Enjoy your hunting success & tasty deer meat

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#7155431 - 04/30/18 08:55 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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#7155445 - 04/30/18 09:08 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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#7155537 - 04/30/18 10:48 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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Edited by deerfeeder (04/30/18 10:50 AM)

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#7155550 - 04/30/18 10:59 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: maximus_flavius]
Goodo Texas Boy Offline
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Registered: 08/22/17
Posts: 146
Loc: Houston Texas
Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
Step 1- Get a Tikka .30/06, with a nice Leupold or Nikon scope (3-9)
Step 2- Go to out door range & practice this Summer with knowledgeable guys to help
Step 3- Take some guided hunts this Fall for deer
Step 4- Enjoy your hunting success & tasty deer meat


Thank you for response . Great steps.

So everyone here recommends higher caliber rifle then AR15. And some riflexibility training. Ok I will start looking for training class so I get the basics right.

What does 3-9 mean?

If I buy a scope for AR15, can I use it on the .30/06?

Thanks

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#7155584 - 04/30/18 11:26 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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#7155588 - 04/30/18 11:30 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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Registered: 08/22/17
Posts: 146
Loc: Houston Texas
Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
The problem with your AR is its difficult to mount a scope on that version that would give you a good scope height and cheek weld on the stock.


Thank you very much for the good advice.

A few questions please:

1. What does cheek weld mean?
2. Can the .556 caliber with AR-15 take down a deer too?

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#7155613 - 04/30/18 11:58 AM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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Loc: Dallas
When discussing scopes, they are identified by a series numbers. The first set of numbers is the magnification. A 3-9x40 is a very common hunting scope. It has a variable magnification of 3 to 9 power, meaning at the low end, it magnifies things three times, and cranked all the way up, it is magnifying the image nine times. Something in this range works very well for hunting as 3x is low enough for up close shots, and you can get out there pretty far with 9x. 2-7 or 4-12 would also be good choices.

The second number is the size of the forward lens, in millimeters. A 40mm lens is the most common. Bigger lenses let in more light, creating a brighter image in the scope. However, they are also physically bigger and bulkier making them more difficult to mount and creating the illusion of more arc in your bullet trajectory. Bigger is also more expensive. 40mm is a good compromise.

You can get one scope and use it on both your AR and a bolt rifle. However, it is a pain as you have to re-sight it every time you move it. Most people buy a scope for each rifle so they don't have to fool with re-sighting all the time.

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#7155662 - 04/30/18 01:06 PM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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Originally Posted By: Goodo Texas Boy
What does 3-9 mean?

If I buy a scope for AR15, can I use it on the .30/06?

Thanks

3-9 refers to a variable power scope as opposed to a fixed power scope. For example, in a 3-9x40 scope, the 3 means three power, or 3x. This means that the image you see through the scope appears three times (3x) closer than it does with your naked eye. The 9 means nine power, or nine times (9x) closer than it appears with your naked eye. The forty (40) is the objective lens (closest to the muzzle) diameter in millimeters.

Barring some specifics, in general terms a scope for an AR will also work with a 30-06.
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#7155794 - 04/30/18 03:46 PM Re: New To Hunting, Need Some Guidance [Re: Goodo Texas Boy]
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My first suggestion would be to buddy up with someone that has hunting experience and start picking his brain. If that person gives you a hard time about asking what to him would be simple questions then find another buddy. Secondly, if you are financially challenged like I am then I would look at something other than a Tikka- never owned one and never shot one and not knocking them but I do know they are expensive. You can get a very reasonably priced Savage or Remington in .270, .308, or 30-.06 to fit your beginning needs. Top with a quality 3-9x40 scope and start practicing. I have been shooting a Savage Model 110 in 30-.06 for close to 40 years and has never let me down. If you stick to the three calibers I mentioned you can generally find them in any mom and pop, middle-of-nowhere store if you get in a bind for ammo.

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