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#7152119 - 04/25/18 07:57 PM Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes?
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Woodsman

Registered: 10/05/14
Posts: 125
My 5 year old Chargemaster started displaying a W 7 error code. RCBS said they don't manufacture them and don't repair them. They are manufactured by someone else. They also told me that Natchez Shooting Supply had them on sale. Note that MidwayUSA has them on sale fore $50 less. That was a very disappointing reply to my email. Does anyone know the error codes for this machine and who manufactures it? I would like to contact them for a repair. When I separate the dispenser from the scale, the scale works fine, but when I reconnect the dispenser the W 7 error returns. If I have to replace the dispenser, I want to hear from other THF members about the reliability, ease of use, costs of other powder dispensers, etc. I am not married to RCBS. I know there are several other brands out there now. I use red, green and blue on my bench.

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#7152171 - 04/25/18 08:55 PM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Registered: 11/11/07
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I got nuthin on the error code, but I can tell you that the Chargemaster is the best dispenser of its kind available. Had a Hornady, it was disappointing. Nephew has a Lyman and it's a POS in my opinion.

Sounds like the dispenser unit itself has gone bad. That has been available by itself in the past, maybe it still is. I know what I would do.
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#7152181 - 04/25/18 09:04 PM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Registered: 08/15/17
Posts: 135
Loc: Arlington
Can’t you buy the dispenser by itself ? The way things are now days probably cheaper for the complete unit I would stick with the rcbs I know first hand hornady unit sucks
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#7152411 - 04/26/18 06:51 AM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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You can get just the dispenser, but they run almost the cost of a new one ($180) +/-.
I see slightly used complete charge masters come up for sale a lot for $200-$250.
Id just save or sell the scale and get another one.
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#7152447 - 04/26/18 07:37 AM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Registered: 10/05/14
Posts: 125
Guys, I guess I am old school in my beliefs. I know I can replace the unit for $181 at Midway. But before I do, I want to make sure it is not repairable. It may be a simple repair. I am also disappointed that RCBS sells a product they don't support. I would like to know who builds it for RCBS and if they service the units. I haven't disassembled the unit yet. There may be hints of who builds it. As far as I know to date, it could simply be a blown fuse in the dispenser.

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#7152484 - 04/26/18 08:02 AM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Registered: 10/05/14
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Guys, I guess I am old school in my beliefs. I know I can replace the unit for $181 at Midway. But before I do, I want to make sure it is not repairable. It may be a simple repair. I am also disappointed that RCBS sells a product they don't support. I would like to know who builds it for RCBS and if they service the units. I haven't disassembled the unit yet. There may be hints of who builds it. As far as I know to date, it could simply be a blown fuse in the dispenser.

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#7152523 - 04/26/18 08:36 AM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Registered: 11/06/11
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I doubt the problem is that they're not repairable, but rather that RCBS has found that they're not cost-effective to repair (i.e. the cost of repair meets or exceeds the cost of replacement). It's become a disposable society, especially when it comes to electronics.

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#7152544 - 04/26/18 08:55 AM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Posts: 7971
Loc: Wise Co.
Having thought about it some more, I think it's possible that the scale itself has failed. It may work fine independently, but the code could mean that the scale can't interface with the dispenser section. Maybe the best thing to do would be to find someone who has one who'd be willing to connect your scale to his dispenser unit, or vice-versa.
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#7152620 - 04/26/18 09:41 AM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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#7152920 - 04/26/18 03:04 PM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Registered: 10/05/14
Posts: 125
River Rider,

Great idea, I know several that are running these units. I will let you know what happens. Thanks

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#7152924 - 04/26/18 03:10 PM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Registered: 10/11/09
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Loc: Wills Point
The original ones were manufactured by PACT. 18007228467. They do repairs. I have no idea if your unit was made by them though. I think they charged 40-$50 to repair mine. They are in Grand Prairie Tx.

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#7153109 - 04/26/18 07:05 PM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Registered: 10/05/14
Posts: 125
I took my Chargemaster over to a friend's house and we swapped my dispenser with his. His worked on my scale. So I put my dispenser back on my scale and got the W 7 code. After talking to RCBS Technical assistance and they nicely told me they didn't know what the code meant but I could open it up and try toggling a calibration switch in the scale. He made it clear that I was on my own. I decided to open up the dispenser and see if there was a micro fuse or other potential failure. Inside there is a simple a stepper motor for the rotating trickler and a circuit board to drive the motor and to drive the user interface keyboard and communicate with the scale. No fuses were found. Before closing it back up, I reseated the cable connectors, thinking they might not be making good contact. At this point, I decided to do the same and opened my scale. Here there was a simple single point load cell, two circuit boards, one to drive the LCD display keypad and the other connected to the power source, load cell and the connector going to the dispenser. The RCBS Tech said to try flipping a micro switch, but it didn't help. After disassembling the scale for the third time, I reseated the multi-conductor ribbon cable going to the dispenser. This time the W 7 code went away, but the unit would only show grams, not grains. I disassemble the scale again, and cleaned the pins on the main circuit board and reseated the ribbon cable. This time the unit came up in grains and now calibrates like it should. My unit stays in a clean environment and doesn't see big temperature swings. In the Panhandle humidity isn't a problem. There was no sign of corrosion on the connectors, but there had to be a bad connection. My biggest a-ha is that RCBS doesn't have any technical knowledge about this product and don't have anyone who can support it. That is a disappointment.

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#7153215 - 04/26/18 09:26 PM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Registered: 11/11/07
Posts: 7971
Loc: Wise Co.
Excellent.

There is a product on the market that is used to enhance connector performance. I forget what it's called, but the stuff actually works. It's pricey too, but one small container can be used many times. I found this stuff a couple of years ago when one of our techs was frustrated with the quality of the connectors supplied by an avionics OEM (which have to be used, period). We tried the stuff, and bingo---it works. You may never see the issue again or it may repeat next time you use the thing.

I'll see if I can remember to ask about that stuff. There are young guys at work who remember things like that.
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#7153269 - 04/26/18 11:21 PM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Registered: 09/27/06
Posts: 22890
Loc: Texas
DeoxIT® Gold is one of those products RiverRider is referring to. I have used it in laptops and a few other things. Whe[quote][/quote]I was at Rockwell international we used similar product on quite a bit of the products
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#7153554 - 04/27/18 12:32 PM Re: Chargemaster 1500 died. Anyone know the error codes? [Re: Phlash]
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Stabilant 22 is the product we use.
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