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#7143088 - 04/17/18 09:26 AM Running Electric
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Someone please give me the ballpark figure of running electrical underground for 300 feet. I know nothing about this but the electrical company said $10 a foot. Not counting the breaker box which they said 600-1,000. All I am going to run at the most is two travel trailers. Most likely just one. So, what do you think about their estimated cost. This will just be for my campsite at the property. It will never be for a barn, house, etc.
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#7143101 - 04/17/18 09:36 AM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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That includes the trenching and wire? We trenched and conduit ourselves 300 feet and spent close to $3K on the copper alone. It ain't cheap. We did overkill though on size. Bought a little too much though. Had the breaker box replaced and electrical outlets put on a pole. Price sounds about what we paid and we did the labor ourselves. We used a personal electrician from Dallas.

Call an electrician and see what they say.

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#7143107 - 04/17/18 09:44 AM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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1/0 copper is $1.87 a foot at Lowes. You need three runs minimum, maybe 4. A panel will be about $200 populated. 2 1/2" grey PVC is about 14.50 for 10'. You will need about 300', plus fittings. And you need a ditch.
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#7143141 - 04/17/18 10:12 AM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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Wow, that's about $1,600 for wire, $200 for panel, $435 for PVC, = $2,235 plus digging ditch of 300. So, my guess now is just to let the electric company do all of that for $10 a foot.
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#7143147 - 04/17/18 10:15 AM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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Great question, and great, informative answers !!!! Thanks all.

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#7143240 - 04/17/18 11:45 AM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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Purchase a panel (find one used), I'd put in at least 3 runs of 3 wire. With outdoor bury wire really they say no need to conduit/pvc it except for the vertical up on a post where your 30amp rv water deterred plug outlet will be. We mounted outlets to a 4x4 post holed in ground and also cover over top with a bucket. Wire is expensive. If you do it right, trencher, wire, panel, breakers,plugs etc adds up big $.

IIRC you have a young man leasing hog hunting from you. so provide him a pick axe and ask him (after a rain) to trench you a line about 4-6" deep. Then you should be able to do the rest of the install. if uncomfortable with the live hook up then seek help.

At my last lease, we put in new panel box, new breakers, hand shallow trenched down fence line, ran underground wire, covered, conduit the wire coming up out of ground up 4x4 post to outdoor covered outlets, put buckets over posts/outlets, plug up and have been running for over 10 years. we have separate run for each camper, camp shacks, outhouse/storage.

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#7143243 - 04/17/18 11:49 AM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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Another option is call septic or a sprinkler contractor and show them where you want trench. Ask them to do it when they are in the area (no rush for better side $ deal). If it is a clean (free of brush) run they can trench it pretty quick. Probably cheaper than you renting trencher, transportation, load/unload and return.

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#7144201 - 04/18/18 09:31 AM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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I think you can substantially beat that cost. Start with how many amps you'll need at the camp site. Then, you can use a voltage calc to size your wire.

If you're just going to run two travel trailers max that is 30 amps at 120V x 2, or 60 total amps at 120V. So, if you had capacity for 40 amps at 240V then you'd be fine. (240V will have less line loss than 120V. Step it down at panel.) Direct-burial Aluminum is cheaper than copper. My voltage calc shows that 2 AWG would do it. 2/2/1 AL URD Triplex (all three wires in one) goes for $1.23 a foot at Lowes. Lifespan will be 10 to 15 years, but if you want you can put it in conduit and changing out later would be much easier as you won't have to dig it up.

So, you got about $375 in wire. A 100 amp panel and breaker value pack with two added RV sockets can be had for <$100. Meter Loop will be a few hundred bucks. Beyond that, it is trencher rental (or hand dig if you have the time) then the labor to wire it all up if you don't want to do it yourself. So, I'm thinking you could do it for considerably less than the $3.6K the Utility Company was going to charge you.


Edited by TxAg (04/18/18 09:34 AM)
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#7144297 - 04/18/18 11:03 AM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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I really appreciate all of this information. It gives me a lot to think about.
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#7144596 - 04/18/18 03:21 PM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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Don’t buy any of your electronic supplies at Lowe’s or Home Depot go to a electric supply distributor like Elliotts much cheaper. I wired a tankless hot water for my home for a fraction of the cost of Home Depot prices . Txag is has good info Direct burial aluminum wire .
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#7144601 - 04/18/18 03:24 PM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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Texas ag gave great advice but do not be a penny wise and a pound foolish.
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#7144624 - 04/18/18 03:59 PM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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Be sure to take voltage drop into consideration with your installation. Depending on circuit amperage required for your application a rule of thumb is to increase wire size one size for each 100’ after first 100’.
Good luck

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#7144942 - 04/18/18 10:01 PM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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#7145124 - 04/19/18 08:28 AM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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Again, thank you all so very much. I starting to feel like I have some knowledge about what I am wanting to do now.


Edited by Mr. T. (04/19/18 08:28 AM)
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#7145164 - 04/19/18 09:12 AM Re: Running Electric [Re: Mr. T.]
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And do aluminum wire. Will save you a good chunk of money.

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