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 Re: Poor groups and fliers, yes, fliers
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03/21/18 10:51 PM
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kmon11
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Bottom line, we know the OP can shoot from the past, especially with a fine rifle he had built for him by Scott Weichel, but I am afraid it will be difficult for any factory rifle to shoot like that rifle did for him.
We have discussed that outside this thread.
The groups shown here are not bad at all for a factory rifle and if shot slow enough might tighten up quite a bit.
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Re: Poor groups and fliers, yes, fliers
[Re: wp75169]
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03/21/18 11:32 PM
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Smokey Bear
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OP, its tough taking a step down from a rifle that is lights out for sustained strings but all rifles have a personality the shooter has to learn. Give it some time between shots and see what it will do. Then shoot a string and when it starts to wander you can figure you redlined it. Even though some will do it, sporter weight barreled rifles are not made to sustain precision through extended strings. They are made to initially shoot well and carry easy.
Last edited by Smokey Bear; 03/21/18 11:34 PM.
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Re: Poor groups and fliers, yes, fliers
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03/22/18 12:03 AM
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jeffbird
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Hunting is all about reliably making one good shot, well placed, so the animal does not suffer.
Almost the only thing that matters is how reliably the rifle will make a cold bore shot. Sometimes a second or third shot might be relevant, such as shooting pigs. A fourth or fifth shot is very rare, although I've shot up to eight once, so it can matter, but a hunting rifle is not for competitive group shooting. Conversely, the best shooting bench rest rifle is close to worthless in field conditions. Let some sand and grit blow up into the action and it may not even be able to load the first round.
A hunting rifle that reliably can shoot good groups is a good thing, but don't get too wrapped around the axle about it.
And yes, those 4th and 5th shots look like fliers. There are enough shots and groups to show a pattern.
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Re: Poor groups and fliers, yes, fliers
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03/22/18 01:04 AM
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hetman
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if you two don't stop acting up I am telling MOM!!!! 
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Re: Poor groups and fliers, yes, fliers
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03/22/18 01:30 AM
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J.G.
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Hunting is all about reliably making one good shot, well placed, so the animal does not suffer.
Almost the only thing that matters is how reliably the rifle will make a cold bore shot. Sometimes a second or third shot might be relevant, such as shooting pigs. A fourth or fifth shot is very rare, although I've shot up to eight once, so it can matter, but a hunting rifle is not for competitive group shooting. Conversely, the best shooting bench rest rifle is close to worthless in field conditions. Let some sand and grit blow up into the action and it may not even be able to load the first round.
A hunting rifle that reliably can shoot good groups is a good thing, but don't get too wrapped around the axle about it.
And yes, those 4th and 5th shots look like fliers. There are enough shots and groups to show a pattern. ^^Gospel truth. But what do we know.
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Re: Poor groups and fliers, yes, fliers
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03/22/18 02:21 AM
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Jgraider
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Hunting is all about reliably making one good shot, well placed, so the animal does not suffer.
Almost the only thing that matters is how reliably the rifle will make a cold bore shot. Sometimes a second or third shot might be relevant, such as shooting pigs. A fourth or fifth shot is very rare, although I've shot up to eight once, so it can matter, but a hunting rifle is not for competitive group shooting. Conversely, the best shooting bench rest rifle is close to worthless in field conditions. Let some sand and grit blow up into the action and it may not even be able to load the first round.
A hunting rifle that reliably can shoot good groups is a good thing, but don't get too wrapped around the axle about it.
And yes, those 4th and 5th shots look like fliers. There are enough shots and groups to show a pattern. Isn't that the truth? Well stated.
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